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CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. OF THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS ON WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 11TH 20,
[B. Approval of Minutes ]
2024. AND WE DO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT. THE FIRST ITEM IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES DATED AUGUST 7TH, 2020 FOR MAY I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? AND JUST TO CLARIFY, THIS IS ACTUALLY TO CONSIDER CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES OF AUGUST 2024. I JUST WANT TO GIVE A BRIEF EXPLANATION. THERE WERE TWO ERRONEOUS REFERENCES TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION THAT WERE SWITCHING TO BE THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. A MOTION TO APPROVE. I'LL SECOND.JOHN. SECOND. MAY WE HAVE A VOTE? WELL, LET ME GO. KIND OF THING OF THAT THING WE CAN DO.
MOTION PASSES 5 TO 0. THE SECOND ITEM IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES DATED AUGUST 28TH, 2024 FOR THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING. MAY I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? MOTION TO APPROVE. RICK. SECOND MOTION.
I'LL SECOND. JOHN. SECONDS. MAY WE HAVE A VOTE? MOTION PASSES 5 TO 0. THE THIRD ITEM IS A PUBLIC
[C. Public Hearing ]
HEARING. CONSIDERATION OF A VARIANCE REQUEST TO ALLOW A SECOND STORY ADDITION TO AN EXISTING DETACHED GARAGE TO ENCROACH APPROXIMATELY SEVEN FEET INTO THE REQUIRED TEN FOOT REAR YARD SETBACK. LOCATED AT 1213 HOLY GRAIL DRIVE, LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS CASTLE HILLS. PHASE ONE, SECTION A BLOCK A LOT ONE ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT. TOWN OF STATE PD DASH T AS REQUESTED BY DAN NORFLEET, THE PROPERTY OWNER. CASE NUMBER 20 FOUR DASH 11. SIX DASH ZB OH A. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. WE HAVEN'T MET YET. I'M GRACE. I'M ONE OF THE PLANNERS HERE AT THE CITY IN THIS CASE WAS REQUESTED BY DAN NORFLEET. AS YOU MENTIONED, THEY ARE A PROPERTY OWNER IN CASTLE HILLS. HERE IS THE MAP OF WHERE THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED. AND TO GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT, THIS IS AN EXISTING SUBDIVISION. IT WAS PLATTED IN 1999 WITH A TEN FOOT REAR SETBACK. IT SHOULD BE ON THE SCREEN HERE, AND AT THAT ONE YEAR LATER, ALL OF THE HOMES THE SUBDIVISION WERE BUILT, AND THIS DETACHED GARAGE IS EXISTING ON THE SITE. AND THIS GARAGE THAT IS CURRENTLY HERE ENCROACHES SEVEN FEET INTO THAT REAR SETBACK. AND SO WHAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE REQUESTING TO DO IS TO NOT EXPAND THE AREA, BUT TO ADD A SECOND STORY TO THIS EXISTING GARAGE ON TOP TO BE A DWELLING UNIT FOR THEIR IN-LAWS TO STAY. THERE ARE SOME IMAGES OF THAT. ADDITIONALLY, JUST FOR CONTEXT, THIS ENCROACHMENT IS WITHIN SOME UTILITY EASEMENTS. THEY HAVE RECEIVED APPROVAL FROM THE VARIOUS UTILITY COMPANIES WHO WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THIS ENCROACHMENT TO BUILD HERE. THOSE ARE INCLUDED IN THIS PACKET. THEY'VE ALSO RECEIVED APPROVAL FROM THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. SO YOU CAN SEE THERE'S THE SETBACK. AND HERE'S WHERE THE GARAGE ENCROACHES. HERE IS SOME OF THE EXHIBITS THEY SUBMITTED SHOWING WHAT THE SECOND STORY ADDITION WILL LOOK LIKE. AND YOU CAN SEE IN TERMS OF HOW THIS FITS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONTEXT, HOW IT'S ORIENTED AND WILL BE FACING THIS MAIN HOME. AND IT WON'T HAVE TOO MUCH IMPACT TOWARDS THE REAR. THERE'S MINIMAL WINDOWS AROUND THE SIDES OF THE HOME THAT ARE GOING TO BE FACING OUT. THE MAJORITY OF THE WINDOWS ARE FACING THAT MAIN HOME IN THE YARD. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT THIS[00:05:02]
PROJECT. THE PROPERTY OWNER IS ALSO HERE AND WE DID RECEIVE ONE CALL IN OPPOSITION OF THIS PROJECT. WHERE WAS THAT OPPOSITION IN RELATION TO THIS PROPERTY? DID THEY GIVE AN ADDRESS? I DO BELIEVE THE NEIGHBOR WAS HERE. AND SO I THINK HE WISHES TO SPEAK TONIGHT. AND SO THEY'RE HERE ONCE WE OPEN UP. YEAH. LET'S OPEN UP THE HEARING. SO I IF IT'S OKAY, I'LL JUST LET HIM EXPRESS THAT. GREAT. SO AT THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN IT TO PUBLIC HEARING. AND ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. FOR THE RECORD. I CAN APPROACH. YES. OKAY. THANKS. THANKS, JEFF. THIS HERE. I ACTUALLY OWN THE PROPERTY. WELL, I'M BANK ACTUALLY OWNS THE PROPERTY, BUT WE'RE BASICALLY. I HAVE ELDERLY IN-LAWS WHO WE ARE TRYING TO GIVE THEM A PLACE TO STAY IS ALL WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO DO, AND KEEP THEM CLOSE TO US SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR CARE IN THE FUTURE. SO REALLY, WE'RE CREATING BASICALLY A MOTHER IN LAW SUITE ABOVE OUR GARAGE. IF I COULD DO IT IN THE HOUSE, I WOULD, BUT THIS IS GOING TO SOUND RATHER SEXIST AND I APOLOGIZE. BUT WOMEN BEING WHAT THEY ARE AND MY WIFE AND HER MOM KEEPING SEPARATE KITCHENS IS KIND OF IMPORTANT FOR THEM. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE DOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY BOTH ARE COMFORTABLE WHERE THEY'RE LIVING. THEY'LL BE THERE PROBABLY SIX MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR. WE CAN'T USE IT FOR ANYTHING. IT'S NOT A SECONDARY ADDRESS. IT'S SIMPLY GOING STRAIGHT UP FROM OUR EXISTING GARAGE. SO ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TAKE CARE OF OUR FAMILY. SO HOPEFULLY THAT YOU ALL FEEL THAT'S ACCEPTABLE AND CAN CAN APPROVE THIS. THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE MOTHER IN LAW SUITES WITHIN OUR HOUSING DEVELOPMENT THAT I CAN GET REFERENCES FROM THAT HAVE BUILT THESE. I DON'T QUITE KNOW, OTHER THAN THE VARIANCE THAT'S THERE, THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR 30 YEARS. WHY IT WOULD BE AN ISSUE. SO THANK YOU. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER. NO, I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION. DID YOU BUILD THIS GARAGE? NO, SIR. AFTER THE HOUSE WAS BUILT. SO IT WAS THERE WHEN YOU MOVED IN? YES, SIR. THE DETACHED GARAGE WAS THERE? YES, SIR. ALL WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS ADDING TO THE TOP OF IT. THERE ARE BASICALLY TWO HOUSES THAT CAN EVEN SEE IT REALLY FROM WHERE WE ARE, BECAUSE WE HAVE TREES ALL DOWN ONE SIDE OF OUR HOUSE. AND EVEN THIS RENDERING DOESN'T GIVE IT QUITE JUSTICE, BECAUSE FROM THE NORTH SIDE, I HAVE A BREEZEWAY THAT COVERS PART OF THAT, AND I HAVE A POOL DOWN THERE AND I HAVE TREES ALONG THAT SIDE. I MEAN, YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE THIS THING REALLY, UNLESS YOU'RE RIGHT BEHIND IT, WHICH THE UNIT RIGHT BEHIND US IS A RENTAL UNIT BY SOMEBODY ELSE. THERE'S A SHARE.I THINK IT'S A SHERIFF'S DEPUTY THAT LIVES UP TO MY SOUTH EAST, WHO WE'RE FRIENDS WITH. I DON'T I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHY IT WOULD BE AN ISSUE FOR ANYONE. OKAY. THAT'S GOOD. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SIR. I THINK YOU'RE JUST WAITING FOR APPROVAL FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO GET YOUR PERMIT. OKAY? TO START, Y'ALL ARE THE ONLY THING HOLDING US UP RIGHT NOW. THE HOA HAS ALREADY SIGNED OFF ON IT. I THINK THERE WAS ONE, ONE, MAYBE TWO BOARD MEMBERS THAT HAD CONCERNS. THEIR CONCERNS RELATED AROUND YOU GUYS, ALLEGEDLY. I DON'T QUITE KNOW WHY, BUT OTHER THAN THAT THE HOA HAS SIGNED OFF ON IT. ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY ARE INFECTED OR AFFECTED BY THIS EASEMENT HAVE SIGNED OFF ON IT. SO. SO YOU HAVE JUST ONE MORE QUESTION. SO YOU'VE TALKED TO YOUR NEIGHBORS ON BOTH SIDES. AND MY I ONLY HAVE ONE NEIGHBOR ON ONE SIDE. YEAH OKAY. AND EVERYBODY NO ONE'S I'VE NEVER EVEN ASKED HIM BECAUSE IT DOESN'T EVEN IMPACT THEM. THEY CAN'T EVEN SEE IT FROM THEIR SIDE BECAUSE THE TREES IN THEIR OWN GARAGE AND OUR HOUSE. OKAY, OKAY. SO THE ONLY THE ONLY NEIGHBOR THAT IS EVEN CLOSE TO US IS THERE'S AN ALLEYWAY RIGHT BETWEEN US AND THEIR RENTAL. OKAY, GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. SO WAS THERE AN OPPOSITION FROM SOMEONE? ARE YOU? I'M FINE. IS THERE OPPOSITION FROM SOMEBODY? IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A.
OH YEAH. IF YOU, IF YOU. ARE YOU GUYS DONE ASKING QUESTIONS. YES. YEAH I THINK IT'S STRAIGHTFORWARD. OKAY. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS PATRICK MCGLONE. I'M AT NOT REALLY A NEIGHBOR, BUT I'M ACROSS THE ALLEY AT AN ADJACENT PARCEL AT CASTLE HILLS, SOUTH POINT. MY ADDRESS IS 2401 DAMSEL EVE DRIVE. AND YEAH, IF YOU SHOW THE AREA PLAN, IT'LL BE VERY EASY TO SEE. I CAN ACTUALLY GO TO THE AERIAL BECAUSE I THINK YOU'RE ON THERE. YEAH. ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT HERE. PARDON ME EVERYONE. JUST ONE. THANK GOODNESS. THERE YOU GO. SO
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THAT'S MY HOME. THE KIND OF DIAGONAL SOUTHEAST DUE FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. SO WHEN WE BOUGHT THAT HOUSE WE PAID A LOT PREMIUM. AND I'M OPEN TO THAT SIDE, THE GREENBELT SIDE. SO IF YOU CAN TELL I DESIGNED MY HOME TO ORIENT THE VIEWS TO THE, TO THE WEST NORTHWEST. AND I'VE GOT PHOTOS TO SUPPORT THIS. IF ANYONE WANTS TO LOOK AT PHOTOS. SO IT'S JUST THAT MY VIEWS WOULD BE IMPACTED BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I'VE DESIGNED MY HOUSE, MY VIEWS. WHEN I WALK OUT MY BACK YARD, I LOOK AND I'VE GOT THE GREENBELT. I CAN SEE THE WESTERN SUNSET, I'VE GOT THE BEAUTIFUL TREES THERE, AND IT'S ONE STORY. AND THEN THE PROPERTY JUST TO THE NORTH IS A ONE STORY KIND OF ONE AND A HALF STORY CARRIAGE HOUSE THAT'S TUCKED BACK. AND SO IT'S REALLY 2 OR 3 OR 400FT UNTIL I SEE A TWO STORY FROM THAT LOCATION. SO I JUST FEEL THAT IF IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD, YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD IT. BUT I'M WONDERING IF WE COULD PUSH IT BACK AND RESPECT THE INITIAL PROPERTY LINE, BECAUSE NUMBER ONE, THAT WOULD PUSH THE STRUCTURE A LITTLE FARTHER FROM MY VIEW, MITIGATE MY HARDSHIP AND MY VIEW. AND THEN SECONDLY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BACK, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SHOW THE BACK ELEVATION, BUT IT WOULD ALSO THEN CREATE A BREAK IN THE BACK ELEVATION INSTEAD OF A BRICK WALL ALONG THE ALLEY, BECAUSE A LOT OF US USE THAT ALLEY EVERY DAY TO WALK OUR DOGS. CAN I MOVE THIS OR. YEAH. SEE? THAT? LAST SHEET, I THINK? YEAH, THERE IT IS. I CAN JUST ZOOM OUT SO YOU CAN. IRONICALLY ENOUGH, I DESIGNED HOMES. SO I LOOKED AT THIS AND I SAW AN OPPORTUNITY THAT ALL THE LIVABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE COULD STILL BE ACCOMMODATED, BUT THAT SIDE OF THE HOME WITH A BATH AND KITCHEN, LET ME GO TO THE FLOOR PLAN. THAT WOULD BE. AND THE WALK IN CLOSET. THAT WOULD BE THE PART THAT IS OVER THE SETBACK LINE. IF THAT WERE PUSHED, SHORTEN THE FRONT BALCONY TO THE HOUSE. YOU COULD STILL GET ALL THE LIVERPOOL AREA IN THERE, BUT YOU GET A BREAK.THE STRUCTURE IS PUSHED A LITTLE FARTHER AWAY AND THEN IT CREATES A BREAK IN THE BACK FACADE OF MORE INTEREST AS YOU, YOU KNOW, WALK YOUR DOG OR WALK THE. THAT'S THE MAIN PATHWAY TO GET TO CASTLE HILLS VILLAGE SHOPS. IT'S USED QUITE FREQUENTLY. THAT'S REALLY MY INPUT I HAVE ON THAT. I JUST FEEL LIKE IT DOES KIND OF. IT WILL IMPACT OUR VIEWS.
I DIDN'T, SO ANYONE ELSE TO COME FORWARD? I THINK YOU'RE AND LIKE I SAID, I'VE GOT PHOTOS WHICH KIND OF SHOW MY VIEW FROM THE BACKYARD. I DID A SKETCH OF HOW THIS COULD WORK WITH THE IF YOU ACTUALLY BUILT IT ON THE BACK SETBACK LINE. SO I DIDN'T JUST LOOK AT IT AND SAY, I DON'T WANT THIS TO HAPPEN. I'M TRYING TO TRY TO MAKE IT A WIN WIN, OKAY. YEAH, I'LL TAKE A LOOK AT WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THE PICTURES. OKAY. FIRST OF ALL, HERE'S HERE'S THE SKETCH.
SO THIS IS THE BACK. THE BOTTOM IS THE BACK OF THE CARRIAGE HOUSE WHICH FACES THE ALLEY. IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN, IT KIND OF ANGLES THE SETBACK KIND OF ANGLES. RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHY I CREATED THAT PORCH, THAT SIDE BACK. TO WHERE THAT PART LOOKS LIKE IT WOULD FIT IN THE SETBACK LINE. AND THEN YOU CREATE. A FACADE SHIFT, RIGHT. MORE INTEREST AS YOU LOOK AT IT, WHICH I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT EVERY DAY. OKAY. WHAT IS THE MEASUREMENT BETWEEN THAT, THAT AREA. YOU'RE SAYING YOU WANT TO SET IT BACK? IS THAT FIVE FOOT, TEN FOOT? IT'S REALLY THE DEPTH OF THE PORCH, WHICH I THINK IT'S SEVEN FEET, 6 TO 7FT. AND HONESTLY, PART OF IT'S STILL OVER. IT'S STILL KIND OF ACCOMPLISHING. MY GOAL WITH IS PUSHING IT FARTHER AWAY. AND THEN CREATING INTEREST. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU. KNOW, AT THIS POINT, WE'LL CLOSE
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THE PUBLIC HEARING AND CHECK WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS TO SEE IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I HAVE NO QUESTIONS. I HAVE NO QUESTIONS. I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON YOUR DESIGN. YES. HOLD ON. EVEN IF HE DID THIS PUSH BACK OR EVEN WITHOUT IT, IF HE HAD WINDOWS PUT IN THE BACK OR, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS NOT JUST A FULL BRICK WALL, I NEED I HAVE TO STEP BACK. CAN YOU, CAN YOU STEP BACK TO THE DAIS HERE? YEAH. AND THEN WOULD YOU MIND JUST SPEAKING SO I CAN'T QUITE HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. YEAH. SO MY QUESTION IS, WITHOUT DOING THE SETBACK THAT YOU'RE REQUESTING OR THAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING, AND HE PUT WINDOWS OR SOMETHING TO BREAK UP THE BRICK WALL THAT YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT. WELL, HELP HIM WITHOUT HAVING TO PHYSICALLY MOVE WHAT HE'S ALREADY GOT PLANNED FOR THAT HOUSE, BECAUSE IT'S WHILE YOUR DESIGN IS NOT BAD, IT'S NOT WHAT HE'S LOOKING FOR HIS FAMILY. I UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT REALLY ADDING WINDOWS, IT'S THAT IT'S JUST A FACADE. AND THEN THE ACTUAL FACIAL LINE IS ALL THE WAY. SO THERE'S NO UNDULATION.IT'S JUST THERE. AND BECAUSE IT WOULD BE ENCROACHING OVER, IT'S EVEN MORE THEY'RE KIND OF ALMOST THE FENCE LINE ON THE BACK OF THE LOT. SO THE FIRST THING I HAD WAS IF YOU PUSH IT MORE FORWARD INTO THE ACTUAL SETBACK, IT'S FARTHER AWAY FROM MY VIEWS. IT GETS HIDDEN BY THE EDGE OF THOSE TREES A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE IT REALLY IS VISIBLE. IT WOULD BE VISIBLE NOW AND THEN.
THAT WOULD JUST THE RESULTANT OF THAT WOULD CREATE A LITTLE BIT OF INTEREST ON THE BACK. I THINK THE WINDOWS, IF YOU ADD THE WINDOWS, YEAH, THERE'S WINDOWS, BUT IT'S STILL LIKE ONE BIG, YOU KNOW, 19 FOOT TALL BY 25, 30 FOOT WIDE WALL. WOULD YOUR PATIO, PARDON ME, WOULD YOUR PATIO THOUGH ALSO BECAUSE THIS IS ROOFED AS IT IS NOW COVERED, YOU'D STILL HAVE A ROOF STRUCTURE. ARE YOU STILL SAYING THAT THAT WOULD BE IN YOUR DESIGN. WELL, THERE'D STILL BE A ROOF STRUCTURE OVER THAT, BUT YOU WOULD SEE THAT CORNER OF THE GARAGE, WHICH NOW NOTHING IS OVER. YOU CREATE A ROOF TO WALL. ONCE AGAIN, IT GIVES MORE INTEREST TO THE HOME FROM WHERE I AM. BUT YEAH, IT'S ALL COVERED. IT'S JUST THAT, YOU KNOW, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE THE DECK ALL THE WAY ACROSS. YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE FRONT OF THE KITCHEN. AND THEN THE DECK IS ACTUALLY FROM THE STAIRWAY OVER. MADAM CHAIR, WOULD YOU MIND IF WE TOOK A FEW MINUTE BREAK SO THAT WE CAN SEE THE PICTURES, AND THE APPLICANT CAN ALSO SEE THE PICTURES? COULD WE POTENTIALLY DO A FIVE MINUTE RECESS FOR THAT? YES. WOULD YOU MIND CALLING THE MEETING INTO RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES? WE'RE GOING TO CALL A RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES, PLEASE, AND WE'LL DO YOU HAVE TO ASK THEM THIS. YOU CAN ASK THEM. CAN WE SEE THE PICTURES THAT YOU HAVE. YES.
SHE'S ASKING IF YOU CAN SEE THE PICTURES THAT ARE ON YOUR PHONE. AND I WOULD ASK THAT YOU ALSO EMAIL THOSE TO PLANNING AT CITY OF LOUISVILLE.COM. SO WE CAN HAVE THOSE FOR THE RECORD OF THIS MEETING. BUT YOU CAN DO THAT RIGHT NOW. YOU CAN JUST GO AHEAD AND SHOW THEM RIGHT NOW AND THEN EMAIL THEM WHEN YOU'RE DONE. SO THIS IS THE ALBUM. THERE'S LIKE 7 OR 8 PHOTOS ONES INSIDE OF THE HOUSE. AND. SO IS THIS THE HOUSE. SO THIS IS INSIDE MY HOUSE. AND THEN I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE CIRCLED IT ON THE PHOTO. BUT THERE'S THE ROOF RIGHT THERE, RIGHT ABOVE THIS ONE OVER HERE. YEAH. OKAY. SO IF YOU IMAGINE THAT THIS IS HOW THE ROOF THAT'S THE ROOF OF THE REQUESTER AND THE GARAGE, BUT SO THE CURRENT GARAGE. THAT'S RIGHT THERE. OKAY. THANK.
YOU. SO YOU CAN SEE THE TOP OF THE ROOF NOW. THIS IS THE ROOF. THE SIDE. SO I HAVE ONE QUESTION AND FOLLOW UP QUESTION. IS THIS GOING TO ADD ADDITIONAL COST TO YOUR REMODEL.
IF YOU IF YOU FOLLOW THIS PLAN IS IT GOING TO ADD. CAN YOU ESTIMATE ABOUT HOW MUCH MORE
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COST IT'S GOING TO ADD TO THE TO THE REMODEL? IF IT'S GOING TO BE THERE IN THAT CORNER? I'M SORRY, ARE YOU ASKING IF I MOVE IT FORWARD? YEAH. I MEAN JUST JUST, YOU KNOW, WELL, THAT WOULD CREATE A WHOLE NEW ENGINEERING COST BECAUSE NOW INSTEAD OF BEING ON THE EXISTING ALL OF THE EXISTING PAD, WE WOULD HAVE TO ENGINEER IT BASED THAT IT'S NOT ACROSS THE EXISTING PAD AND THE EXISTING STRUCTURE. WE'D HAVE TO MOVE IT FORWARD AND TAKE OUT THAT CORNER. RIGHT. AND IF WE HAD TO MOVE IT FORWARD SEVEN FEET, WE'D HAVE TO PULL THE WHOLE PAD OUT TOO. SO IF WE JUST TAKE THAT CORNER OFF OF THE UNIT, IT WOULD BE AN ENGINEERING COST. BUT IF WE HAD TO MOVE THE WHOLE PAD, IT WOULD BE A REALLY SIGNIFICANT COST. NOW, THE QUESTION I HAD ON THESE THESE AND I APOLOGIZE, I'M ANSWERING A QUESTION. BUT THEN I'M ALSO MOVING ON. WHEN I LOOKED AT THOSE PICTURES, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CREST OF MY HOME AND THE TREES TO THE TO THE NORTH OF ME, THIS IS NOT GOING TO EXCEED ANY OF THOSE. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO IMPACT ANY VIEW OTHER THAN MY OWN HOUSE. AND SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WHAT VIEW IT IMPACTS, OTHER THAN THERE'S A BRICK WALL THERE INSTEAD OF THE TOP OF MY HOUSE. AND SO I UNDERSTAND, LIKE IF IT WAS LOOKING AT A LAKE OR SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL, BUT IT'S LOOKING AT MY HOUSE ANYWAY. SO THIS ENGINEERING COST. YES, SIR. IF IT'S JUST THE ENGINEERING COST, CAN YOU GIVE ME AN IDEA IS THAT, YOU KNOW, $5,000? IS THAT $10,000? IS IT? WELL, WE'VE ALREADY SPENT 12 JUST TO VALIDATE THAT IT CAN HANDLE WHAT WE'VE GOT. NOT THAT'S NOT EVEN INCLUDING WHAT WE'D HAVE TO CHANGE TO CHANGE IT. NOW, I CAN I CAN BRING THE ENGINEER IN. IT'S I WANT TO SAY IT'S PARAGON ENGINEERING HERE IN TOWN. THEY'RE PRETTY WELL KNOWN STATEWIDE. OKAY. NO, THAT'S FINE. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A FEEL FOR IF IT'S GOING TO DOUBLE YOUR COST, THAT SORT OF THING.WELL, IF I HAVE TO RIP THE WHOLE FOUNDATION OUT, IT'S GOING TO MORE THAN DOUBLE IT, BECAUSE IT'S BASICALLY BUILDING A HOUSE BACK THERE. AND ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS ADD A MOTHER IN LAW SUITE BACK THERE, OKAY? AND IF WE MOVE, IF WE MOVE THAT CORNER FORWARD, SEVEN IF WE TAKE THAT CORNER OUT AND JUST AND BASICALLY PUT, WE COULD PUT A, I GUESS WE COULD PUT A PATIO ON THE BACK SIDE THERE. BUT THEN MY PATIO WOULD BE LOOKING AT HIS AND THAT MIGHT BE EVEN MORE INTRUSIVE. I THINK I'M ON THE SAME PAGE AS HE IS. SO MY QUESTION. OH WELL, IT'S ALSO FOR YOU AS WELL. SO I'M GOING TO ADDRESS BOTH OF THEM, CAN I? SO IN YOUR DESIGN, THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT IT IS YOU HAVE THAT CORNER THAT THAT CORNER PUSHED FORWARD. IS THAT A PATIO THAT YOU'RE PUTTING. YOU'RE JUST ELIMINATING THE EXISTING GARAGE AND STAY THERE AND YOU BRING THE ROOF UP. I NEED TO TELL YOU THAT I'M SORRY. SO THAT'S NOT A PATIO. THE FOUNDATION OF THE ORIGINAL GARAGE WOULD NOT CHANGE. THAT'S SIMPLY THE FIRST FLOOR LEVEL OF THAT GARAGE. AND THAT ROOF SLOPES UP TO THE SEVEN FEET WHERE THE NEW FLOOR WOULD START. SO YOU'D HAVE A ROOF TO WALL ONCE AGAIN, A LITTLE BIT MORE INTEREST THAN SOMETHING STRAIGHT DOWN. OKAY, OKAY. SO I WAS LOOKING AT IT AS A PUSH IN AND MOVING THE PORTION OF THE HOUSE FORWARD AND THEN LIKE TWO DECKS, BASICALLY ONE IN THE BACK, ONE IN THE FRONT. THAT'S HOW I WAS VIEWING IT.
UNDERSTANDABLE. YEAH. AND WE COULD DO THAT. BUT IF WE DID THAT THEN IT CHANGES THE AGAIN, IT CHANGES THE ENGINEERING. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE COST WOULD BE. I CAN CHECK WITH THEM, BUT THAT A REDESIGN OF YOUR IT WOULD REDESIGN EVERYTHING. AND IT'S NOT JUST THE ENGINEER THEN IT'S THE CAD. IT'S EVERYTHING. RIGHT. SO IT INCREASES OUR COST SIGNIFICANTLY. AND THEN IF WE HAVE TO PULL THE WHOLE THE WHOLE GARAGE, THEN IT LIKE IT'S LIKE BUILDING A NEW HOUSE, OKAY.
OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO. OKAY. MAY I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? A MOTION TO APPROVE. AND APPROVE. SECOND, JOHN APPROVES. WE'LL VOTE. MOTION PASSES 5 TO 0. MICHELLE, ARE THERE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? I HAVE NO ANNOUNCEMENTS THIS EVENING. OKAY. AND THEN THE FINAL ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE ADJOURNMENT. MAY I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? ALL MOTION. KIMBERLY. MOTION. SECOND MOTION. I'LL SECOND. JOHN. SECOND MOTION'S VOTE, PLEASE. MOTION PASSES 5 TO 0. WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
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