[Workshop Session - 6:30 P.M.] [00:00:04] LEFT MY HAMMER IN THE WRONG ROOM. SORRY ABOUT THAT OTHER PAIR OF PANTS. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE WORKSHOP SESSION OF THE LOUISVILLE CITY COUNCIL. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. MICROPHONES ARE LIVE, SO THEY WILL HEAR EVERYTHING IN THIS ROOM AND THEN SOME. FIRST UP ON THE AGENDA IS DISCUSSION OF CONSENT AND REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS. I'LL GO AHEAD AND LOOK INTO THAT. SO COUNCIL, IF YOU COULD PULL UP IN YOUR PACKETS I'VE GOT INVOCATION WITH MAYOR PRO TEM PATRICK KELLY. I'VE PLEDGED TO THE FLAGS FROM DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM RODNEY CADE. WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION FOR THE LONDON BAKER, ELIZABETH ELAINE ROW. WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION FOR GOVERNMENT COMMUNICATORS. WE HAVE A RECOGNITION FOR RUBEN GARCIA AND AARON JESH. JESCHKE GENSKE JENSKI. OKAY, I'M OVER HERE. OKAY, GOOD. GOT IT. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A PRESENTATION OF A LEVEL THREE CERTIFIED MUNICIPAL COURT CLERK. WHAT I HEAR IS THERE ARE JUST OVER 100 FOLKS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT HAVE THIS, AND WE HAVE THREE OF THEM. SO THAT'S PRETTY AWESOME. ITEM E ONE PUBLIC HEARING ORDINANCE AMENDING THE UDC. RICHARD WILL BE DOING A PRESENTATION AND OPEN. SO WE'LL HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM STAFF ON THAT ONE. ITEM TWO PUBLIC HEARING SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A LICENSED MASSAGE THERAPY. I HAD A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THAT. I WAS DOING SOME RESEARCH IN THIS AND I COULDN'T FIND WHERE TOPLESS SIZE HAS ANY STANDING BUSINESS WITH THE SECRETARY OF STATE SITE. I MAY NOT HAVE LOOKED THAT UP VERY WELL. THAT SITE WAS WRITTEN IN LIKE 1973. IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS A VERY BAD SITE, AND I COULDN'T FIND ANY REFERENCE TO THE PERSON WILLING TO DO THIS. XIANTAO DOES ANYBODY KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WHO OWNS THAT BUILDING AND WHO ACTUALLY IS LICENSED TO OCCUPY THAT SPACE? YEAH, HER LICENSE IS IN THE MASSAGE LICENSE, BUT THERE'S NOTHING FROM THE SECRETARY OF STATE SAYING SHE'S A REGISTERED BUSINESS. THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR. WE HAVE NOT. OKAY. I WAS JUST CURIOUS. OKAY. I THOUGHT MAYBE I JUST OVERLOOKED. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. IT'S STILL VERY CLEARLY ON SEVERAL. LET'S JUST CALL THEM REVIEW SITES. YES, I DOUBT THOSE. OH, I DID TOO I DID NOT I HAVE NO IDEA. GOOD. DON'T GO THERE. SO. ALL RIGHT WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE. CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE LEWISVILLE CITY COUNCIL STANDARDS OF CARE. THIS IS A STANDARD BOILERPLATE WE HAVE TO DO WITH THE STATE EVERY YEAR. QUESTIONS ON THAT. ONE ITEM F THE PUBLIC INPUT. THIS ONE IS SPECIFICALLY FOR PUBLIC INPUT REGARDING THE CURRENT STR REGULATIONS AND POTENTIAL CHANGES. SO THERE IS NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN ON THIS. IT'S JUST ANOTHER TOUCHPOINT FOR RESIDENTS TO COME AND GIVE THEIR FEEDBACK. NO RESPONSE FROM US. RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST COLLECTING DATA, OKAY. ITEM H CONSENT AGENDA. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES H FIVE AMENDMENT ONE OF THE INTERLOCAL COOPERATION AGREEMENT WITH DENTON COUNTY, TEXAS. THIS IS ADDITIONAL CORPORATE DRIVE MONEYS. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE SCRAMBLED CASH UP FROM ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO GET THIS THING DONE. SO GREAT JOB ON STAFF, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES BETWEEN THE CITY AND MARATHON HEALTH. QUESTIONS ON THAT. ONE. IS THAT THE BUILDING THAT'S BEHIND THE ALBUM, IS THAT CORRECT? YES. THAT'S RIGHT. WE'VE OFFICIALLY OPENED AND THIS IS EXTENDING OUR MENTAL HEALTH HOURS PROVIDER HOURS. YOU GUYS BUDGETED THAT THIS YEAR. ITEM SEVEN RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL DESIGNATING SEVERAL PARCELS OF LAND WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS AS PUBLIC PARKS AND TRAILS. INCLUDING THE NAMING. SO THIS IS FOLLOW ON FROM LAST COUNCIL MEETING WHERE WE APPROVED THE NAMES. ITEM EIGHT BID AWARD FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF TIMBER CREEK HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL, ALSO TO BE KNOWN AS CENTENNIAL TRAIL. THIS JB AND GO DO BUSINESS. SO BEFORE. I DON'T KNOW STACY DO YOU KNOW. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT I WANT TO SAY A LONG TIME AGO I'M NOT A FAMILIAR NAME FOR ME, BUT THAT MAY BE ME. AND SO. ITEM NINE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT FOR PROJECT CONTROL ON THE ANIMAL SHELTER. THAT CAN'T HAPPEN SOON ENOUGH. ITEM TEN PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT FOR DESIGN SERVICES FOR THE SHELTER. I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THAT. AND THIS IS JUST FOR THE DESIGN. RIGHT. OVER $1 MILLION [00:05:01] FOR ARCHITECTURAL FEES, WHICH SEEMS SUPER HIGH TO ME. IS THAT IS THAT THE GOING RATE RIGHT NOW? PRETTY ACCURATE. SO WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE OF THE SO WHAT'S WHAT'S THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION? I WAS GOING TO ASK CHRIS, CHRIS, WHAT WAS THE PLAN FOR THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION TOTAL. THERE'S 9.6 SET ASIDE FOR THE PROJECT, 200,000 OF THAT FOR PUBLIC ART. SO 10 MILLION. SO 10%. THAT'S THAT'S WITHIN RANGE. OH, OKAY. I GUESS YOU'RE IN THE WRONG LINE OF WORK. HONEY, YOU NEED TO GO OVER TO OTHER ANY OTHER ON ITEM TEN. ITEM 11, CHANGE ORDER TO OUR FRIENDS AT THE RAILROAD. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT. I DO I ACTUALLY HAVE DAVID HERE TO EXPLAIN. GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND IF YOU WANT HIM TO ANSWER QUESTIONS TOO. WELL, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE NUMBERS BECAUSE THERE'S A SO THERE'S A CONTINGENCY AND THEN THERE'S THIS CO. I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE RULES ABOUT WHEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE FLAGGERS AND SOME OF THEM ARE A LITTLE UNREASONABLE IN MY PERSONAL OPINION. RIGHT. SO I DO GET THAT THERE'S YOU KNOW TO FOR THE FLAGGERS. IT'S FOR 22. BUT IS THE CO ITSELF. DOES IT NEED TO BE FOR THAT FULL AMOUNT OR DOES IT NEED TO BE FOR THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT AND WHAT IS LEFT IN THE CONTINGENCY. SO BASICALLY WE HAVE A CONTINGENCY IN EVERY PROJECT. WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AS LONG AS ANY OF THE COST OVERAGES ARE WITHIN THAT CONTINGENCY. RIGHT. SO THERE'S A MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE'S A SMALL AMOUNT LEFT THAT WE HAVE FOR CONTINGENCY THAT CAN GO TOWARDS THIS COST. AND SO THERE'S 301, 302,000 LEFT IN THE CONTINGENCY RIGHT. AND THIS ONE IS FOR 22. BUT WE'RE APPROVING THE FULL AMOUNT OF FOR 22 AS A CHANGE ORDER I THINK THERE'S 322. THAT'S REMAINDER LEFT. RIGHT. SO DAVID DO YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN THE 422 IS AFTER 301 IS OR 302 IS TAKEN OUT. YEAH. NO THE 420, THE 422,000 IS THE FULL COST OF THE CHANGE ORDER. WE DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CONTINGENCY LEFT OVER. SO THAT 300,000 NUMBER IS HOW MUCH WE'RE EXCEEDING THE CONTINGENCY BY ABOUT 100,000. THE RULE IS ANY CHANGE ORDER THAT EXCEEDS THAT HAS TO COME BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL. RIGHT. BUT WHAT I'M ASKING IS DO WE I'M STILL I'M STILL SEEING IT AS LIKE, IF WE APPROVE A CHANGE ORDER FOR THE FULL 422, THEN WE HAVE THIS CONTINGENCY OVER HERE THAT WE'RE NOT USING. NO, NO, WE'RE THE WHEN WE WHEN WE PAY THE CHANGE ORDER, WE'LL USE WHATEVER'S LEFT IN THE CONTINGENCY. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO ADD MONEY TO THE PROJECT IN ORDER TO COMPLETE THE PAYMENTS. SO THE, THE WHOLE 422 PLUS THE 302 IS NO. THEN WHY DO WE HAVE THE CHANGE ORDER? IS THE CHANGE ORDER LIKE THE CHANGEOVER IS GONE OVER AND A CHANGE OVER? WE'RE NOT GOING TO SPLIT THE CHANGE JUST FROM A RECORD KEEPING STANDPOINT. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SPLIT OUT A PORTION OF THE CHANGE ORDER BASED ON THE ACCOUNTING. SO THE CHANGE ORDER YOU'RE APPROVING, WHICH WENT OVER THE CONTINGENCY, IS THAT FOR THAT? 422 AND THEN BUT THE FUNDING IS WE'RE JUST MAKING UP THE DIFFERENCE IN THE FUNDING. HE'S GOING TO USE THE REMAINDER THAT HE HAS IN HIS. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE. SO THE CONTINGENCY IS NOT NECESSARILY APPROVED AS PART OF THE CONTRACTOR'S CONTRACT. YES OKAY. IF THEY DON'T USE IT THEY LOSE IT. IT IS. YEAH. IF THEY DON'T USE IT THEY LOSE IT. OKAY. SO WHAT I THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING IS THAT IN MY, THE WAY I READ IT WAS THAT THEY WOULD GET A FULL CHANGE ORDER OF 422 PLUS WHATEVER WASN'T USED OUT OF THAT CONTINGENCY. THEY'D ALSO GET THAT TOO. SO THAT'S OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. SO ONE CLARIFICATION TO THE PREVIOUS ITEM. SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY THE BASE FEE IS 8.8%. BUT THEY'RE DOING A BUNCH OF ADDITIONAL SERVICES FOR GEOTECH SURVEYING. SO WHICH IS RAISING IT TO THE MILLION DOLLARS. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE DAVID, DO YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN ON THIS ITEM WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON? JUST A VERY HIGH LEVEL EXPLANATION OF WHAT HAPPENED WITH THIS CHANGE ORDER. THE RAILROAD REQUIRES THAT ANY TIME WE'RE DOING WORK WITHIN 25FT OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS ON EITHER SIDE, THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE RAILROAD, AND THEY HAVE TO CERTIFY THE RAILROAD FLAGGERS. OUR CONTRACTORS ON CONSTRUCTION HIRE A SUB CONSULTANT TO PROVIDE THIS FLAG. THE ASSUMPTION IS, OF COURSE, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, OR AT LEAST THE ASSUMPTION, EVEN DURING THE DESIGN OF THE PROJECT WAS IF YOU'RE WITHIN 25FT OF THE TRACKS, THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE FLAGGERS. AND WE WERE 25FT EITHER SIDE OF THE TRACKS ON THE SAME PLANE. WELL, THIS WAS A RAILROAD UNDERPASS PROJECT. SO WHAT HAPPENED WAS, IS THEY BUILT THE BRIDGE OR THE BRIDGE IS BUILT AT GROUND LEVEL AND THEY GRILL THEM HERE. AND BASICALLY [00:10:05] THE BRIDGE IS BUILT UNDER THE GROUND. SO ALL THE WORK UP UNTIL THE TIME THAT THEY FINISH THE BRIDGE IS ALL AT GROUND LEVEL FOR THE MOST PART. SO WE HAVE TO HAVE THE RAILROAD FLAGGERS. WE EXPECTED THAT WHAT HAPPENED HERE WAS ONCE THEY STARTED EXCAVATING UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGE, BUILDING THE ROAD, BUILDING THE RETAINING WALLS, BUILDING UTILITY LINES UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGE, WHERE WE WOULD ASSUME THAT WOULD NOT INTERFERE WITH THE RAILROAD THEY STILL REQUIRED FLAGGERS. SO ALL THAT WORK THAT HAPPENED UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGE, THE ROAD WORK, THE LANDSCAPING, THE UTILITIES, RETAINING WALLS, EVEN THOUGH WE WEREN'T WORKING ANYWHERE NEAR THE TRACKS, WE'RE WAY DOWN BELOW THEM. THEY STILL HAD TO HAVE RAILROAD FLAGGERS ON SITE. WE HAD TO PAY THEM. BUT AND I KNOW WE TALKED EARLIER TODAY BECAUSE THIS IS A THORN IN MY SIDE, BUT THE REGS WITH THE STATE. DOES NOT MATCH UP WITH THIS AND IT DOESN'T SAY THAT. SO IN IN THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY HAS NEVER RUN INTO THIS. THEY BASE IT ON 25FT BEFORE. IT SAYS THAT IN HERE IN THE BACK UP. BUT THAT THIS IS NEVER ENCOUNTERED. THIS LEVEL OF FLAGGING REQUIREMENTS BEFORE AND THIS LEVEL OF FLAGGING REQUIREMENTS ISN'T ANYWHERE IN THE STATE REGS. IS IT? JUST THIS RAILROAD I WANT SOME ANSWERS TO NOT NOT TO HOLD THIS UP, BUT SOME. THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME ANSWERS SOMEWHERE WITH OUR TXDOT REP OR SOMETHING THAT CAN EXPLAIN THAT. THIS IS A MONEY GRAB FROM ONE OF OUR BIG BULLY BEER, CRADDICK. THIS IS COMING DIRECTLY FROM THIS WAS A CANADIAN PACIFIC KANSAS CITY RAILROAD. AND THEY USED A COMPANY CALLED TRANSISTORS THAT WERE THEIR INSPECTIONS AND BASICALLY BE THEIR REPRESENTATIVE ON THE SITE. AND SO IT'S BASICALLY TRANSIT SYSTEMS DIRECTED OUR CONTRACTOR TO PROVIDE THE PLANT. SO THEY WERE UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE REGS, THEY'RE THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT NEBULOUS. THEY JUST BASICALLY SAY WITHIN 25FT OF THE TRACKS OR IT DOES. IT SAYS WITHIN 25FT OF THE NEAREST RAIL OR WHAT IS SPECIFIED IN THE CONTRACTOR RIGHT OF ENTRY, THE CROW. RIGHT. AND SO NO, NOBODY ANTICIPATED THAT THAT WAS GOING TO MEAN EVEN IF WE'RE UNDER THE BRIDGE WHERE WE'RE NOT BOTHERING THEM, BECAUSE AT THAT POINT WHEN WE'RE UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGE, BY THAT TIME, THE TRAINS WERE ALREADY DRIVING OVER THE BRIDGE. I MEAN, WE WEREN'T BOTHERING THEM IN THE LEAST. I MEAN, YOU MIGHT ACCIDENTALLY JUMP UP THERE AND. WELL, YEAH, IT'S A MONEY GRAB IS WHAT IT IS. I WILL SAY THE DIFFICULT PART IS THAT THE RAILROAD COMPANIES ARE NOT BEHOLDEN TO US. YEAH. AND ALSO THE WORK HAS BEEN DONE. SO SUNDT HAD TO SUNDT HAS PAID THEM AND THIS IS TO PAY FOR THAT. RIGHT. OKAY. I MEAN THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T WANT IT PULLED AND STUFF. BUT I'M STILL I STILL WANT TO ANSWER THAT. I WANT AN ANSWER ON THAT BECAUSE I THINK I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT. RIGHT. I AGREE JUST I'M WILLING TO FIGHT WASHINGTON AND CITY HALL. I DO HAVE I DO HAVE TO MOM WITH ME THIS EVENING. HE'S WITH SON CONSTRUCTION. HE MAY BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN IT MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE. THEY'LL JUST TELL ME IT'S NOT A MONEY GRAB. AND YOU'VE COME ACROSS THIS NUMEROUS TIMES. I'M WITH YOU. I ARGUED MYSELF THREE TIMES WITH THEM. BRIDGE FARMERS. WHO WAS THE CITY REPRESENTATIVE ON THE PROJECT, ARGUED WITH US ONE MORE TIME. THEIR ISSUE AND WHAT THEY WERE CLAIMING IS IF YOU WORK IN UNDER THE BRIDGE, IF YOU HAVE AN EQUIPMENT, YOU MIGHT HIT THE BRIDGE WITH YOUR WITH YOUR EQUIPMENT, LIKE YOUR TRACTORS, YOUR LOADERS. AND THAT MIGHT AFFECT THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OF THE BRIDGE. AND THEY DON'T WANT THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OF THE BRIDGE GETS AFFECTED WHILE THERE'S TRACKS ON TOP OF IT. I PERSONALLY DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT'S JUSTIFIED, BUT THAT'S TO CLARIFY THAT IN THEIR OWN REGS. AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, ONCE WE POUR THE CONCRETE PAVING, THEY STILL REQUIRED US TO HAVE IT. AND AT THAT POINT WE SAID WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT AND STOP US IF YOU WANT TO STOP US. AND THEY DIDN'T. THEY LET US THE LAST MONTH. THEY LET US JUST CONTINUE WORKING. THANK YOU. SO AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, I MEAN, I HEAR WHAT THEY'RE SAYING, LIKE THE EQUIPMENT MIGHT HIT THE BRIDGE, BUT A FLAGGER IS NOT GOING TO FIX THAT. NO, IT'S GOING TO MAKE ZERO DIFFERENCE. BUT WHATEVER. I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU ARE. I'M RIGHT THERE WITH YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU. ITEM 12, LOCAL PROJECT, ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT. AMENDMENT WITH TEXDOT. ITEM 13 AUTHORIZING THE ACQUISITION OF RIGHT OF WAY AND EASEMENTS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION ACCESS OF MIDWAY BRANCH FORCE MAIN. THOSE EASEMENTS GOING TO [00:15:05] BE DIFFICULT TO GET. ALL OF THOSE ARE IN THE. THIS WILL BE AN ERRAND. I DON'T THINK SO. THE HARDEST ONE WILL BE THE LANDFILL. AND THAT'S JUST IT'LL JUST TAKE TIME. BUT I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE AN ISSUE. RIGHT. WE'RE REALLY FOR A LINE OF THAT LENGTH. THAT LIKE WHERE THERE'S WHAT ONLY THREE LANDOWNERS. SO CORPORATE DRIVE, WE INTENTIONALLY ALIGNED IT WITH CORPORATE DRIVE CONSTRUCTION SO THAT WE WOULD TRY TO MAKE THIS AS STREAMLINED AS POSSIBLE. IF YOU REMEMBER THIS MIDWAY BRANCH FORCE MAIN PROJECT IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO GET DONE, LIKE IN A VERY QUICK TIME FRAME. AND SO WE ACTUALLY INTENTIONALLY ALIGNED THAT FOR THAT REASON, WE DO HAVE CLOSED SESSION ON THAT ITEM WE NEED. WHOEVER MAKES THE MOTION HAS TO READ THE MOTION EXACTLY AS SET FORTH. OH YEAH. ON THE LAST ONE ON ITEM 13 ONE. ITEM 13. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ITEM B PRESENTATION ON RED, WHITE AND LEWISVILLE EVENT OPTIONS. WE ARE RUNNING PROBABLY A LITTLE LESS TIME THAN YOU ANTICIPATED. MR. BUT I KNOW YOU CAN DO IT. OH, TALK AT FIREWORKS. BE SURE. MAYOR. COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR THE CHANCE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE RED, WHITE AND LEWISVILLE, OUR INDEPENDENCE DAY CELEBRATION THAT HAS BEEN HELD FOR THE PAST A NUMBER OF YEARS HERE IN OLD TOWN ON THE TUESDAY CLOSEST TO THE FOURTH. ONE OF THOSE VERY QUICKLY GIVE YOU SOME SOME HISTORY FOR Y'ALL FAMILIAR WITH IT. RED, WHITE AND LEWISVILLE STARTED IN 1991, DIDN'T HAVE THAT NAME. IT WAS JUST CALLED LEWISVILLE FIREWORKS 1991. AFTER THE VISTA RIDGE MALL OPENED, AVERAGE ABOUT 10,000 PEOPLE. WE HAD 18,001 TIME. WE WERE NOT PREPARED FOR 18,000. THAT WAS SCARY. WE MADE SOME CHANGES AFTER THAT, BUT WE HAD ABOUT 10,000 ON SITE, ABOUT 30,000. SOME SAID AS MANY AS 60,000. BUT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COUNT DIFFERENTLY THAT WERE SCATTERED AROUND THE AREA TO WATCH HIGH LEVEL FIREWORKS. WE LAUNCHED THEM FROM THE VISTA RIDGE ATHLETIC COMPLEX THERE ON LAKE VISTA DRIVE, RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE AMPHITHEATER, THERE'S THE FIREWORKS. THERE'S A GREAT SHOW. IT WAS CONSISTENTLY RATED ONE OF THE TOP FIVE SHOWS IN DFW, USUALLY FOURTH OR FIFTH, BUT STILL TOP FIVE. BUT WE STARTED TO LOSE OUR SPOT BECAUSE THERE WERE MORE BUILDINGS COMING IN AND LAKE VISTA DRIVE THE OFFICES DOWN THERE, BUILD HORIZON HEALT, BUILD TIAA-CREF BUILT, AND OUR OUR SAFETY ZONE KEPT GETTING SMALLER WHERE WE WENT FROM. AT ONE TIME, WE ACTUALLY THREW AN 18 INCH SHELL UP THERE. AND THEN FEDERAL REGULATIONS SAID NO MORE OF THAT. THAT'S AN EXPLOSIVE. WE HAD SIX TEAMS THEN DOWN TO 14, LIKE THEY'RE ALL EXPLOSIVES, RIGHT DOWN TO 12 TO THE POINT DOWN TO 12, WHERE WE GOT TO WHERE WE WEREN'T EVEN ABLE TO DO 12, WHERE MAYBE SOME TWELVES, MOSTLY TENS. AND AT THAT POINT, FROM THE MALL TO THE LAUNCH SITE, THE VISIBILITY WASN'T GREAT AND OUR SHOW WAS NOT GOING TO BE A TOP FIVE SHOW. SO WE WERE LOOKING AT OTHER PLACES AND WE WENT TO COUNCIL AND SUGGESTED SOME IDEAS, AND ULTIMATELY COUNCIL GAVE US DIRECTION TO MOVE IT TO OLD TOWN AND DO A LOW LEVEL SHOW, WHICH REDUCES YOUR CROWD. BUT THE IMPACT CAN BE REALLY GOOD, AND YOU'LL SEE A PICTURE DOWN HERE ON THE BOTTOM THAT SHOWS THE FIREWORKS IN DOWNTOWN AND SOME MORE HERE. THIS PICTURE RIGHT HERE, COMING FROM THE COURTYARD IN THE ROOF OF THE GRAND, ABOUT 6000 IS THE MOST YOU CAN GET THERE. WE'VE HAD A LITTLE MORE THAN FIVE ON ONE BIG YEAR. WE'RE USUALLY BETWEEN 4 AND 5, AND THAT'S IN WEINBERG PLAZA, CHURCH STREET, THE ADJACENT RESTAURANTS. WHEN WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE THAT ZONE WORK, AND THE CITY HALL PLAZA. SO IT'S BEEN A GOOD SHOW. HOWEVER, WE HAVE SOME CONCERNS. ONE OF THOSE CONCERNS IS, AS I MENTIONED, FIREWORKS IS AN EXPLOSIVE. THAT MEANS THEY'RE COMBUSTIBLE. THEY ARE DESIGNED TO MAKE FIRES IN THE NAME. AND UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN YOU THROW THINGS IN THE AIR THAT MAKE FIRE, THEY LAND SOMEWHERE. AND WE'VE NOT HAD REAL PROBLEMS WITH IT. BUT FIRE DEPARTMENT IS ALWAYS OUT THERE WATCHING AND CHECKING. THEY'VE GOT THE DRONE RUNNING EVERYTHING THIS PAST YEAR, NOT DURING THE SHOW, BUT DURING LOAD OUT. THERE WAS STILL, I GUESS, SOME SPARKS IN ONE OF THE BOXES. THEY THREW IT IN THE DUMPSTER AT THE GRAND AND THE DUMPSTER CAUGHT ON FIRE. WE ACTUALLY HAD A DUMPSTER FIRE. SO THAT INCREASED OUR LEVEL OF CONCERN THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS. SO WE'VE LOOKED AT THEM. YOU CAN SEE SOME OTHER ISSUES HERE. WE DO SPEND MONEY TO CLEAN UP ABOUT $4,000 TO CLEAN UP THE DEBRIS THAT'S LEFT AROUND THE GROUNDS, AND THERE ARE STILL SOME THAT WE MISS, BUT WE GET ALL THAT WE CAN. THERE'S SOME IMPACTS, NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON FIREWORKS, AND THE COST IS GOING UP EVERY YEAR FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS, AND WE DON'T EXPECT THAT TREND TO STOP. SO WE HAVE SOME CONCERNS. MOSTLY IT'S THE FIRE RISK. DRONES ARE A SAFER, ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY ALTERNATIVE. THEY DO NOT WORK CORRECTLY. THEY DON'T BLOW UP, BUT THEY'RE NOT FIREWORKS. THEY DON'T START FIRES. AND SO WE TRIED IT OUT THIS PAST YEAR. THAT MEANS NO DEBRIS CLEANUP. THE FIRE RISK GOES DOWN. WE TRIED IT OUT THIS PAST YEAR AT HOLIDAY STROLL TO KICK OFF THE CENTENNIAL, TO HAVE THE DRONE SHOW CELEBRATE BOTH THE CHRISTMAS SEASON AND THE CENTENNIAL. I HOPE YOU ALL GOT TO SEE IT. HERE'S SOME PICTURES OF IT. IT WAS PRETTY AWESOME. VERY COOL. IT WAS PRETTY AWESOME. NOW IT IS STILL ONE DIRECTIONAL, JUST LIKE THE LOW LEVEL FIREWORKS. YOU NEED TO BE [00:20:01] IN FRONT TO GET A GOOD VIEW FROM THE SIDE. YOU CAN SEE, OH, SOMETHING'S GOING ON. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT IT'S COOL. SAME WITH THE DRONES. YOU'LL SEE COLORED LIGHTS FLYING AROUND AND BUT YOU WON'T SEE THE SHAPES AS WELL UNLESS YOU'RE IN THE FRONT. SO THAT'S THE SAME OF EITHER OF OUR OPTIONS. WE LOOKED AT A FEW OPTIONS THAT I WANT TO TELL YOU. WE SET THESE OPTIONS ASIDE. I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT ASK ABOUT THEM. THE WEAVER ARENA. THE BIGGEST PROBLEM THERE IS CAPACITY AND ALSO PARKING AND SHUTTLE MOVED TO LAKE PARK. SAME PROBLEM THERE. THE PARK IS VERY FULL DURING THAT TIME OF YEAR AND WE WON'T BE ABLE TO EMPTY IT OUT. SO IT'S ALREADY FULL. THERE'S NO PLACE TO PARK. THAT MEANS A SHUTTLE SERVICE. WE CAN MAKE IT WORK, BUT IT WOULD BE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT AND COSTLY TO DO THAT. AND THERE'S NO INFRASTRUCTURE OUT THERE AT THE PARK FOR IT. PLUS, WE'RE ABOUT TO REBUILD THAT PARK IN THE NEXT HOWEVER MANY YEARS, AND SO WE DON'T WANT TO GET INVOLVED WITH THAT. WE LOOKED AT JUST MERGING WITH THE CASTLE HILLS EVENT, MAKING THAT OUR OFFICIAL EVENT. WE DID THAT WHEN JULY 4TH LANDED ON A TUESDAY. SO THE DATES CONVERGED. THERE'S SOME PLUSES, THERE'S SOME MINUSES. ONE OF THE MINUSES IS WE REALLY WANT TO KEEP THAT MORE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL EVENT. GREAT SHOW. IT'S REALLY A GOOD SHOW, BUT THEY WANT TO KIND OF KEEP IT A LITTLE BIT MORE INSULAR BECAUSE OF ALL THE TRAFFIC IN AND OUT AND THE PARKING ON THE STREETS. WHEN YOU CAN'T GET OUT OF YOUR OWN DRIVEWAY BECAUSE THERE'S PEOPLE PARKED TO WATCH THE SHOW, THAT'S NOT A GOOD EXPERIENCE. SO WE'VE SET THOSE ASIDE, AT LEAST FOR THE NEAR FUTURE. SO WE LOOKED AT FOR CONSIDERATION THESE THREE OPTIONS, KEEPING THE EVENT DATE, WHICH THIS YEAR WILL BE JULY 1ST. ONE, IS STAYING IN OLD TOWN, WHICH YOU CAN KEEP EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE IF YOU'RE NOT, IF WE WANT TO JUST ACCEPT THE RISK THAT IT'S OUT THERE. BUT WE ALSO COULD KEEP THE SAME STRUCTURE AND PUT IN A DRONE ONLY SHOW OR A HYBRID DRONE FIREWORKS SHOW. WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT IN JUST A MINUTE. SECOND OPTION MOVE TO RAILROAD PARK. PLUSES AND MINUSES HERE. THE BIGGEST PLUS IS YOU CAN DO A HIGH LEVEL FIREWORKS SHOW. ONLY TEN INCH SHELLS? PROBABLY NOT 12. PROBABLY TEN IS THE MOST, BUT YOU'RE VIEWING FROM THE FIELDS, SO IT'S A GREAT VIEW. A TEN INCH SHELL WOULD LOOK FABULOUS FROM THERE. WE ALSO COULD DO DRONES, OR WE COULD DO DRONES AND FIREWORKS. SAME, SAME SITUATION THERE. IT WILL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT IN A MOMENT ALSO. AND THEN THE VISTA IS THE THIRD USED TO BE VISTA RIDGE MALL, THE MUSIC CITY MALL. NOW IT'S THE VISTA. WE COULD GO THERE AND DO IT AGAIN. WE JUST CAN'T DO FIREWORKS THERE BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A LAUNCH SITE, EVEN LOW LEVEL FIREWORKS. THERE'S NOT A SUITABLE LAUNCH SITE WITH A SAFETY ZONE. WE COULD DO DRONES AND WE FOUND A PLACE TO DO IT. WE'LL SHOW YOU IN A MINUTE. IT'S JUST WE HAVE A THIRD FOR A REASON. SO HERE'S OLD TOWN. WE HAD THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE. WE HAVE AN OPERATIONAL PLAN THAT WORKS. WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING OUT THERE AND IT HAS GONE VERY WELL. IT BRINGS CUSTOMERS INTO THE BUSINESSES DOWN THERE. WE ALWAYS GO IN AND VISIT THE RESTAURANTS DURING THE EVENT, BEFORE AND AFTER THE EVENT, JUST TO MAKE SURE, AND WE SOMETIMES HAVE TROUBLE GETTING INTO THEM BECAUSE THEY DO VERY WELL. THE PUBLIC'S FAMILIAR WITH IT AND IT TIES INTO SOUNDS OF LEWISVILLE NOW. THE CHALLENGES ARE THE FIREWORKS HAVE DEBRIS IF WE TRY TO ADDRESS IT AND KEEP FIREWORKS OFF DEBRIS. THE FIREWORKS SHOW IS A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE THAN A REGULAR SHOW. MORE THAN TWICE AS MUCH THE SAME COST FOR A 22 MINUTE HIGH LEVEL OR REGULAR FIREWORKS SHOW WILL GET YOU ABOUT 6 TO 8 MINUTES OF DEBRIS, TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA THERE. SO WE WOULD NOT PROPOSE REPLACING THE WHOLE SHOW, UNLESS YOU JUST WANT TO THROW YOUR MONEY IN THERE AND SET IT ON FIRE. BUT WE CAN DO A FINALE AFTER DRONES. THE AUDIENCE SIZE IS CAPPED AT SIX NOW AS WE HAVE MORE DEVELOPMENT IN OLD TOWN. THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE FROM TIME TO TIME, BUT MOST OF VIEWING AREA IS PRETTY WELL SET WAY. FERGUSON PLAZA, CITY HALL PLAZA. WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT BUILDINGS THERE. THE OTHER AREAS THERE WILL BE AND THEN THERE IS SHUTTLE. WE USE SOME SHUTTLE NOW. IF WE GROW IT IN ANY WAY, WE WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE TO DO MORE SHUTTLE SERVICE. THIS SHOWS YOU THE AREA. HERE'S THE VIEWING SPACE IS ALL AROUND HERE. HERE'S WHERE THE FIREWORKS IS LAUNCHED. THAT'S THE FIREWORKS SAFETY AREA. IF WE DO DRONES, THIS IS THE DRONE AREA. YOU NOTICE THE BIGGER AREA AND IT'S A BIG AREA BECAUSE THE DRONES ARE MOVING. SO IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG WITH THE DRONE, IT KEEPS MOVING. THAT'S THE LAW OF INERTIA AND IT KEEPS GOING UNTIL IT LANDS SOMEWHERE. AND SO THAT'S WHY IT'S A LARGER AREA. WE SPECIFICALLY PLANNED IT WHERE IT WOULD NOT AFFECT ANY. THEN IT WOULD NOT AFFECT THE DRAFTHOUSE AND NOT AFFECT THE RESTAURANTS, SO THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO CAPITALIZE ON THE EVENT COST WISE. NOW THIS IS BASED RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 31,000 IN THE BUDGET. IF WE GO WITH A HYBRID SHOW, WHICH IS DRONES, FOLLOWED BY THE LOW LEVEL FIREWORKS, THE TOTAL BUDGET THERE IS 59. SO WE'RE 28,000 SHORT FOR DOING THAT. FOR THIS YEAR'S EVENT. YOU CAN MAKE THIS CHEAPER IF YOU GO JUST DRONES AT 20,000 GOES AWAY. ALMOST TOUCHED IT AGAIN. SO EACH CASE, ALL THREE CASES ARE GOING TO SHOW YOU WHAT THE HIGHEST COST IS. BUT IN ALL THREE CASES, THERE IS A WAY TO MAKE IT LOWER. IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THE LEVEL TWO SHOW TO A MORE MANAGEABLE COST WISE. WAS THE CHRISTMAS SHOW ALSO TO DRONES OR IS IT BIGGER OR SMALLER? IT WAS 200 DRONES OR TWO, 52.25, TWO AND A QUARTER. SO ALMOST 250, ALMOST 250. ALL RIGHT. MOVING TO OUR WATER PARK. VERY VERSATILE SPACE. IT HAS BATHROOMS BUILT IN. IT HAS CONCESSION STANDS. IF WE WANTED [00:25:03] TO USE THEM. IT DOES HAVE SOME INFRASTRUCTURE BUT NOT ALL THAT WE WOULD NEED. IT HAS THE LARGEST VIEWING AREA OF THE THREE ITEMS WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT. WE WOULD HAVE TO BRING IN POWER AND STAGE. IF WE HAVE A PERFORMANCE, THERE'S THE POTENTIAL OF DAMAGING FIELDS, AND WE WANT TO RESPECT THE FACT THAT OUR FIELDS ARE NOT THERE JUST TO TROMP ON AND HAVE PICNICS. THEY'RE THERE FOR ATHLETIC EVENTS. THERE COULD BE DAMAGE TO THE FIELDS. IF SO, WE'D HAVE TO REPAIR THOSE. WE DON'T CURRENTLY KNOW WHAT THAT COULD BE. IT MIGHT BE NOTHING. IT MIGHT BE SIGNIFICANT. AND THEN ALSO BECAUSE IT'S AT THE PARK, THERE'S NO ADJACENT BUSINESSES THAT WOULD BENEFIT FROM THAT. THERE'S NO RESTAURANTS, NO PATIOS, NO BARS, NO GATHERING SPACES. SO PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TO EAT SOMEWHERE ELSE OR BRING THEIR FOOD. SO YOU LOSE THAT CONNECTION TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. LAUNCH FROM THE BALL FIELDS. VIEW FROM THESE AREAS HERE. PROGRAM IN THIS PARKING AREA, WE ARE FAR ENOUGH AWAY FROM THE CORPORATE DRIVE PATH AND FAR ENOUGH AWAY FROM THE LANDFILL THAT THEY ARE OUTSIDE OF THE SAFETY ZONE. SO SAFETY WISE, THAT'S A GREAT LOCATION COST HERE. MORE EXPENSIVE BECAUSE IF YOU BRING INFRASTRUCTURE IN AND AGAIN, THIS IS BASED ON BOTH DRONES AND THE FINALE. IF YOU JUST DID THE FIREWORKS THEN IT'S JUST THE 20. IF YOU JUST DID THE DRONES, IT'S JUST 25. YOU CAN FLEX IT UP AND DOWN IF YOU WANT. BUT REMEMBER, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS NUMBER, WE'RE 38,000 SHORT OF DOING THIS, BUT YOU COULD GET IT DOWN TO 18,000 IF YOU SAID DRONES ARE ENOUGH. IF WE JUST DID FIREWORKS, THAT'S A FIVE MINUTE SHOW FOR 20,005 MINUTES FOR THE CLOSE PROXIMITY, NO DEBRIS OR 22 MINUTES WITH THE TEN INCH SHELLS FOR THE SAME PRICE. THAT'S WHAT I WAS TELLING YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU. 20,000 IS A BIG DIFFERENCE FROM THE DEBRIS SHELLS. THE DEBRIS SHELLS JUST SCATTERED DUST. APPARENTLY, DUST IS OKAY. MOVING TO THE VISTA. BEST TRAFFIC, BEST ACCESSIBILITY. YOU CAN GET A LOT OF PEOPLE IN. YOU CAN GET THEM OUT IN A HURRY. WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE AND AFTER THE EVENT. THERE'S A LOT OF CROWD TRYING TO LEAVE, BUT 35 MINUTES LATER, THEY'RE GONE. PD HAD THIS SUCKER DOWN. WE WERE GOOD AT CLEARING THE SPACE. THE SAFETY ZONE WOULD ALLOW A 250 OR EVEN A 300 DRONE SHOW, BUT NOT FIREWORKS. YOU WANT TO THINK IT WOULD DRAW BUSINESS TO NEARBY HOTELS AND RESTAURANTS? I'LL TELL YOU OUR EXPERIENCE FROM WHEN WE HAD IT, THERE WAS IT DID NOT. THE RESTAURANTS ALONG THE HIGHWAY TOLD US THEY ACTUALLY HAD A LOW NIGHT, BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE AFRAID TO GET TOO CLOSE BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THERE'D BE BAD TRAFFIC. WE COULD TRY TO CAPITALIZE ON THAT, BUT I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT IT'D BE A BENEFIT. UNDER THE CHALLENGES, WE WOULD HAVE TO RENOVATE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE STAGE, POWER FOR RENT, ALL THAT FIREWORKS AGAIN, NOT AN OPTION. TRAFFIC CONTROL WOULD HAVE TO BE NEEDED. SO IT'S GOING TO HAVE A MORE OF AN IMPACT ON STREETS AND ON POLICE THAN SOME OF THE OTHERS MIGHT. AND ALSO, WE HAVE NOT TALKED TO MALL MANAGEMENT ABOUT THIS YET. SURPRISE GUYS, IF YOU'RE WATCHING, WE'VE NOT TALKED TO THEM YET TO SEE IF THEY'RE EVEN INTERESTED IN THIS, EVEN IF THEY ARE, AS COUNCIL KNOWS, WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING SOMETHING AT THAT SITE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM THAT WOULD COMPLETELY CHANGE WHAT'S THERE. SO THIS IS AT BEST A TEMPORARY OPTION. TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS, EIGHT YEARS, I DON'T KNOW, NOBODY DOES, BUT IT'S AT BEST A TEMPORARY OPTION. WE WOULD LAUNCH FROM THAT SIDE, DO THE DRONES ABOVE THE MALL, THIS WHOLE AREA YOU CAN SIT AND WATCH, REALLY HEAR ALL OF THIS. YOU CAN SIT AND WATCH. SO A LOT OF SPACE THERE. JUST NO FIREWORKS. THIS ONE. ONLY A $16,000 DEFICIT BECAUSE FIREWORKS ARE NOT AN OPTION. SO BUT YOU HAVE TO BRING IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE. AND THAT'S WHY THE 31 WE HAVE NOW WOULD NOT COVER IT. EVEN WITH DRONES, WITH THE DRONES ONLY. WHICH BRINGS ME TO MY LAST SLIDE WITH FIREWORKS FAST. SO WE GOT THE THREE OPTIONS. AGAIN, THIS IS THE HIGHEST COST. IF YOU ARE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE COST, WE CAN ELIMINATE THE DRONES OR ELIMINATE THE FIREWORKS AND BRING IT DOWN SOME. BUT RIGHT NOW, IF WE DON'T KEEP WHAT WE WANT, WHAT WE HAVE NOW, IF WE WANT TO TRY AND ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS, WE'RE 28,000 SHORT ON OLD TOWN, 38,000 SHORT ON RAILROAD, 16,000 SHORT AT THE VISTA. I WANTED TO ADD ONE OTHER THING. I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO IN THERE. I THINK JAMES HIT ON THE FIRE RISK. THE OTHER THING IS THE FACT THAT WHEN OLD TOWN, WE HAVE A LOWER THRESHOLD FOR CALLING A FIRE, CALLING THE FIREWORKS BECAUSE OF WIND. AND SO, AS YOU KNOW THIS, A LOT OF YOU KNOW THAT THIS YEAR WE WERE AT THE POINT WHERE WIND WAS SO HIGH, WE HAD THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE OUT THERE. AND I WAS GETTING A CALL FROM MARK MCNEIL GOING, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CALL IT AND SEND THEM ALL HOME. AND I JUST THAT'S REALLY ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT PROMPTED ME TO SAY, OKAY, LET'S JUST LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS, OR YOU GUYS SAY, WE'RE WILLING TO TAKE THAT RISK OF SENDING EVERYONE HOME AND A POTENTIAL FIRE. THAT IS TRUE. DRONES ALSO HAVE A WIND TOLERANCE, BUT IT'S HIGHER AT ABOUT 20 MILES AN HOUR. FIREWORKS IS USUALLY 15. IN OLD TOWN WE AIM FOR 12, 10 TO 12, AND TWICE IN THE PAST FOUR YEARS WE ALMOST HAD TO CANCEL. YOU ALSO RUN THE RISK WHEN THERE ARE HIGH WINDS. YOU DON'T GET AS LONG OF A DRONE SHOW BECAUSE THOSE MOTORS HAVE TO WORK HARDER TO HOLD THEM STEADY AND THEIR BATTERIES RUN OUT, RIGHT. SO WHEN IS AN ISSUE, NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO IS YOU'RE THROWING THINGS UP IN THE AIR. THANK YOU DARREN. FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, DARREN WATKINS, OUR SPECIAL EVENTS MANAGER OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE. SIR. YOU WANT TO COME BACK IN HERE? DO YOU GUYS WANT TO COME BACK? DO YOU WANT TO COME BACK? [00:30:05] GOOD EVENING. WE'RE GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING OF THE LEWISVILLE CITY COUNCIL TO [A. Invocation - Mayor Pro Tem Patrick Kelly] ORDER. FIRST UP ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA IS THE INVOCATION WITH MAYOR PRO TEM PATRICK KELLY. PLEASE JOIN ME IN A MOMENT OF SILENCE. FOR. THANK YOU. JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE [B. Pledge to the American and Texas Flags - Deputy Mayor Pro Tem Ronni Cade] OR THE PLEDGES? THE PLEDGE OF. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A FEW MORE MINUTES LEFT OF WORKSHOPS, SO I'M GOING TO ASK EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE TO PLEASE HAVE A LITTLE PATIENCE. WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK INTO OUR WORKSHOP, DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT ON SOME IDEAS ON OUR RED, WHITE AND BLUE FESTIVAL, AND THEN WE'LL BE BACK OUT HERE FOR THE REST SO WHAT OPTIONS DO YOU WANT TO SEE? WHAT ARE WHAT ARE YOU THINKING FOR BUDGET? I THINK AGE BEFORE BEAUTY. OH I'M KIDDING. YEAH. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY A WORD. NO, I MY FIRST THOUGHT IS TO JUST GO AHEAD AND ELIMINATE THE VISTA COMPONENT BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S KIND OF WE HAVE MORE STEPS TO DO. I TALKED TO CLAIRE ABOUT THIS EARLIER. I THINK I DO LIKE THE RAILROAD PARK, ALTHOUGH I THINK THAT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME ORGANIZATION, LIKE WITH THAT PARKING AREA, YOU'D HAVE TO GET VENDORS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND MAYBE WORK WITH TCTA TO KIND OF FOR TRAFFIC CONTROL TO GET BUSSES THERE. THAT MAY HELP SAVE SOME OF THE FIELDS, BUT THE OLD TOWN DO NOT DO FIREWORKS ON MY OUR. THE FIRST YEAR WE DID FIREWORKS THERE. I REMEMBER THAT WIND AND I REMEMBER WATCHING THE YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO BE THREE RESTAURANTS SHORT AT THE END OF THAT. SO. SO I WOULD JUST SUGGEST IF WE, IF WE STAY IN OLD TOWN, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE MY FIRST OPTION, DO THE DRONE SHOW. I LIKE THE FIREWORKS SHOW. I LIKE RAILROAD PARK AS AN OPTION, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S MORE WORK AND MORE COST POTENTIALLY. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT DOING IT AT RAILROAD PARK BECAUSE IT'S SO CLOSE TO THE ANIMAL SHELTER. OH YEAH, I HADN'T EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. SCARE THE CRAP OUT OF THOSE DOGS AND CATS. I LIKE OLD TOWN WITH JUST THE DRONES. JUST TO GIVE YOU A PERSPECTIVE WITH THE HYBRID, IF YOU DO THIS ONE AND DO JUST DRONES, NOT THE HYBRID, IT TAKES 20,000 OFF OF OUR DEFICIT AND WE HAVE AN $8,025 DEFICIT. I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF DOING A HYBRID SHOW, LIKE 3 TO 5 MINUTES FOR A FINALE. I REALLY I REALLY LOVE THAT. AND IF WE IF THE WIND WAS AN ISSUE AND WE HAD TO CANCEL IT, AT LEAST WE WOULD STILL HAVE A DRONE SHOW, RIGHT? BUT WE STILL HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. WE'D STILL HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. YEAH, WE'D HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY. DOES NOT. HOW DO THE FIREWORKS, HOW DO THE FIREWORKS HOLD UP THE ONES THAT ARE ON THE DESK, THE DESK KIND IN THE WIND, OR IS IT BETTER? IT'S THE SAME. SAME? YEAH. YOU'RE GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY WIND. EITHER WAY. YOU GO ON FIREWORKS. NOW IT'S A SHORTER TIME FRAME. YOU'RE GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO EMPTY EVERYTHING IN THE BAG IN A SHORT IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. SO YOU DON'T HAVE AS MUCH IN THE AIR AT AT ANY ONE GIVEN TIME WITH THE WIND. BUT AND IT TAKES A REAL IT'S A REAL QUICK FUZE. SO IT'LL, IT'LL BURN OUT PRETTY QUICKLY. YEAH. PROPULSION IS THE SAME. THE WEIGHT IS ESSENTIALLY THE SAME. I'D BE IN FAVOR OF THE HYBRID VERSION. I DON'T THINK THESE BUSINESSES AND RESTAURANTS STILL NEED. I THINK THEY STILL NEED THIS ATTRACTION THERE. I MEAN, WE JUST LOST A RESTAURANT TODAY, SO. I THINK THIS IS THE HYBRID. I DON'T I DON'T THINK I DON'T THINK EVERYBODY'S THERE YET ABOUT NOT HAVING SOME KIND OF FIREWORKS. I JUST DON'T SEE YEAH, I'M FOR IT, BUT I JUST DON'T SEE THE MOST OF THE PUBLIC ARE GOING TO COMPLAIN THAT THERE'S NO KIND OF FIREWORKS, BUT THE HYBRID GIVES US THE BEST OPTION. IF NOW WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE WIND, AT LEAST WE GOT THAT. AT LEAST WE GOT THE DRONES. LET ME ASK THIS THE I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING. SO FAR, I THINK IT'S TOO, TOO SOON TO JUST CUT TO ALL DRONES. I THINK THERE'S TOO EMBEDDED WITH FIREWORKS RIGHT NOW. I LIKE THAT. SO HYBRID FOR SURE. IF WE WENT TO RAILROAD PARK, THOUGH, YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE'S NO FOOD OPTIONS. COULD WE BRING IN TRUCKS, FOOD TRUCKS AND VENDORS TO EVEN IF USING CONCESSION STANDS, YOU PROBABLY STILL HAVE TO HAVE FOOD VENDORS OUT THERE [00:35:04] WITH, YOU KNOW, 6 TO 8000 PEOPLE ON THE GROUND. DOES THAT HELP OFFSET SOME OF THAT EXTRA COST? A LITTLE, BUT NOT MUCH. NOT MEANINGFUL. WE DON'T GET A WHOLE LOT OUT OF THOSE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I CAN GET BEHIND OLD TOWN. I DON'T I LIKE TO SEE RAILROAD PARK EVENTUALLY, BUT THEN GET BEHIND OLD TOWN. YEAH. THANK YOU. GOT A CONSENSUS. SO THE HYBRID OLD TOWN. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. I'M ON. THANK YOU. COUNCIL. THANKS, JEFF.SLEEP. THEY WILL DO THAT TO YOU. ALL [C. Proclamations/Recognitions] RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK INTO REGULAR SESSION. WE DO HAVE A FEW PROCLAMATIONS. SO THESE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO RECOGNIZE SOME GREAT STUFF IN OUR CITY. SO FIRST UP I HAVE A PROCLAMATION REGARDING THE LONDON BAKER. SO FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW, WE HAVE A AN AMAZING CELEBRITY SUPERSTAR IN OUR TOWN. AND SHE WAS ACTUALLY RECENTLY ON TELEVISION. AND SO WE'D LIKE TO GIVE SOME RECOGNITION. RECOGNITION. AND YOU ALL, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW, I HAVE SOME FUN WITH THIS. YOU ALL ARE GOING TO HEAR THE WORD. WHEREAS REGULAR TIME, THERE'S MULTIPLE PARAGRAPHS. IF YOU GO TO ONE OF THOSE CHURCHES THAT DOES THE CALL AND RESPONSE, YOU ALL ARE WELCOME TO SAY, WHEREAS WITH ME. SO LET'S GO. SO WHEREAS ELIZABETH ELAINE RAO IS THE OWNER AND FOUNDER OF THE LONDON BAKER, SERVING AS HEAD CAKE ARTIST AND CAKE ENGINEER AND ARCHITECT, SPECIALIZING IN CAKE SCULPTING AND HYPER REALISTIC CAKES. AND WHEREAS, THE LONDON BAKER IS AN ESTABLISHMENT THAT TRANSFORMS CAKES INTO IMMERSIVE EXPERIENCES TO CREATE A PERSONALIZED DINING EXPERIENCE THAT FULFILLS CUSTOMERS ASPIRATIONS THROUGH ITS DELECTABLE CREATIONS. AND WHEREAS AS A PREVIOUS FIRST PLACE WINNER, ELAINE RECENTLY COMPETED IN A SPECIAL ALL STAR SEASON OF THE NETFLIX COMPETITION SERIES IS IT CAKE? AND WHEREAS ELAINE REPRESENTED OR SORRY, WHEREAS HER FINAL CREATION WAS A FIVE FOOT TALL CAKE DESIGNED TO RESEMBLE A MINIATURE DOLLHOUSE ADORNED WITH STAINED GLASS WINDOWS THAT ILLUMINATED THE SCENE. AND WHEREAS ELAINE REPRESENTED THE LOUISVILLE COMMUNITY AND THE LONDON BAKER WITH A STRONG SECOND PLACE FINISH IN THE COMPETITION. NOW, THEREFORE, I, T.J. GILMORE, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE, TEXAS, ON BEHALF OF THE LOUISVILLE CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MONDAY, FEBRUARY 17TH, 2025, AS ELIZABETH ELAINE ROWE DAY. NOW, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW, SHE'S NOT JUST CAKES, SHE HAS AMAZING SCONES AND OTHER GREAT SNACKS AT THE LONDON BAKER. SO GO THERE, HAVE HAVE A BRUNCH, HAVE A HIGH TEA. IT'S AWESOME. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU SO, SO MUCH. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? SURE, SURE. I WASN'T PREPARED FOR THAT, BUT ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU EVERYONE VERY, VERY MUCH. AND I HOPE THAT I GET TO SEE ALL OF YOU AT MY SHOP. IT IS IN LOUISVILLE OFF OF 121. COME AND SAY HI. DON'T BE A STRANGER. IF YOU LIKE ALL THINGS BRITISH, YOU'LL LOVE THIS PLACE. SO THANK YOU GUYS. IT'S AWESOME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP IS GOVERNMENT COMMUNICATORS DAY. WHEREAS THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT COMMUNICATIONS PROFESSIONALS IS TO INFORM, EDUCATE AND ENGAGE THEIR COMMUNITIES. AND WHEREAS ROBUST COMMUNICATION IN GOVERNMENT CREATES TRUST AND INSPIRES RESIDENTS TO TAKE ACTIONS AND BE INVOLVED. AND WHEREAS GOVERNMENT COMMUNICATIONS CREATE RELATIONSHIPS AND CALLS TO ACTION, BUILD AWARENESS AND UNDERSTANDING THROUGH STORYTELLING. ENGAGE AND FOSTER ENGAGEMENT ON CIVIC ISSUES AND USE ALL CHANNELS TO INCLUDE PEOPLE IN CRITICAL DECISIONS. AND WHEREAS IT IS ESSENTIAL TO HAVE STRONG COMMUNICATIONS IN GOVERNMENT BECAUSE IT IS A FOUNDATIONAL ELEMENT OF LIVING IN A DEMOCRACY WHERE CITIZENS HAVE THE FREEDOM TO MAKE THEIR VOICE HEARD. AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE IS PROUD TO AND HAS DEEP GRATITUDE FOR AND RECOGNITION FOR THE GOVERNMENT COMMUNICATORS PROFESSIONALISM, DEDICATION, HARD WORK, COMMITMENT, ENTHUSIASM AND SACRIFICE. NOW, THEREFORE, I, T.J. GILMORE, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM FEBRUARY 21ST, 2025 AS GOVERNMENT COMMUNICATORS DAY HERE IN LOUISVILLE. AND IF YOU COULD ENGAGE WITH OUR COMMUNICATORS, WHO ARE WE RECOGNIZING? WHERE ARE THEY? BRING MY COMMUNICATORS UP HERE. YEAH. JAMES. YOUR TEAM. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YOU DID IT. THANK YOU. DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? NO. YOU CAN'T. ALL RIGHT. HE'S ALREADY HERE. THANK YOU. TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND TO CITY MANAGER WITH YOUR SUPPORT. AND IF YOU HAVEN'T SIGNED UP TO GET THE EMAIL NEWSLETTERS, YOU NEED TO SIGN UP TO GET THE EMAIL NEWSLETTERS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK. YOU. THE LAST SURVEY OF HOW WE COMMUNICATE WITH RESIDENTS IN IDENTIFIED OVER 150 DIFFERENT WAYS THAT THE CITY COMMUNICATES WITH FOLKS, WHETHER THAT'S ELECTRONIC, WHETHER THAT'S OLD FASHIONED PAPER, WHETHER THAT'S WATER BILLS, YOU NAME IT, WE HAVE A CHANNEL FOR IT. AND IT'S CHALLENGING IN TODAY'S ENVIRONMENT BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH PULLING AT OUR ATTENTION. [00:40:02] THESE FOLKS DO A GREAT JOB, BUT THEY'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR NEW WAYS TO ENGAGE OUR COMMUNITY. ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP, AARON AND REUBEN. DO I HAVE YOU GUYS. COME ON, COME ON, BRING YOUR FAMILY. COME ON. UP. SO I'M HERE TO RECOGNIZE A COUPLE OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS. YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU. WHEN YOU WORK FOR A CITY, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU WORK FOR A CITY LIKE LEWISVILLE, IT'S ALL HANDS ON DECK. AND THAT'S PART OF THE PHILOSOPHY IN HOW OUR CULTURE IS BUILT. AND SO WHEN WE SEE EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE THAT EMPLOYEE LOGO, THE EXPECTATION IS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND WHEN THEY'RE NEEDED. AND THESE TWO GENTLEMEN DID JUST THAT IN JULY 2020 FOR RUBEN GARCIA AND AARON JENSEN. I OVER I'M OVER READING THAT I, OF THE LEWISVILLE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT DEMONSTRATED AN EXTRAORDINARY RESPONSE DURING A CRITICAL INCIDENT ON THEIR ROUTE WHEN A VEHICLE CAUGHT FIRE IN THE LEFT LANE ON BUSINESS. 121 RUBEN AND AARON DEMONSTRATED BRAVERY AND QUICK THINKING BY ACTIVATING THEIR TRUCK LIGHTS TO WARN ONCOMING TRAFFIC, ATTEMPTING TO EXTINGUISH THE FLAMES AND CONTACTING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR ASSISTANCE, THEREBY ENSURING SAFETY OF EVERYONE INVOLVED AND PREVENTING FURTHER RISKS. THEIR SWIFT RESPONSE, PROFESSIONALISM AND UNWAVERING COMMITMENT TO PUBLIC SAFETY ARE A TRUE REFLECTION OF THE VALUES UPHELD IN LEWISVILLE IN DECEMBER, RUBEN GARCIA AND AARON JETSKI WERE HONORED AS WINNERS OF THIS YEAR'S TEAM LEWISVILLE AWARDS, A WELL-DESERVED RECOGNITION FOR OUTSTANDING SERVICE SELECTED BY THE ENTIRE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. ITJ GILMORE, MAYOR OF LOUISVILLE AND ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COUNCIL, EXTEND A THANK YOU AND COMMEND RUBEN GARCIA AND AARON JENSKI FOR THEIR HEROIC EFFORTS AND DEDICATION TO MAKING LOUISVILLE A SAFER PLACE FOR ALL. THANK YOU GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. YEAH. THANK YOU. GOT IT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. HOW THAT WORKS. THANK YOU. ANYTIME, ANYTIME. SO, FOLKS, WHEN YOU WHEN YOU SEE THESE FOLKS OUT THERE, JUST GIVE THEM A HAND BECAUSE THEY, THEY, THEY GET BEAT UP ON SOCIAL MEDIA A LOT. OUR TEAM AND THEY DON'T DESERVE IT AT ALL. OUR CITY STAFF DOES AN AMAZING JOB. AND I GET IT. SOMETIMES THERE'S SOME INCONVENIENCES IN THE WORLD AND SOMETIMES THERE'S THINGS THAT NEED TO BE FIXED. BUT 99.9% OF THE TIME THESE GUYS ARE DOING ALL THE RIGHT THINGS EVERY TIME, AND THEY'RE GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO. SO I THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING THAT THAT EXAMPLE. [D. Presentation] ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP, ITEM D PRESENTATION OF A LEVEL THREE CERTIFIED MUNICIPAL COURT CLERK TO MUNICIPAL COURT EMPLOYEES. I'VE GOT K MINUTES AND THE TEAM UP THERE. OKAY. GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL AND CITY ADMINISTRATION. IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO RECOGNIZE AN OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT, AN OUTSTANDING, OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT WITHIN OUR COURT. I STAND BEFORE YOU NOT ONLY AS THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR LEWISVILLE MUNICIPAL COURT, BUT ALSO AS THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE TEXAS COURT CLERKS ASSOCIATION. JOINING ME THIS EVENING IS JENNIFER BOZORGMEHR, THE COURT SERVICES DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY OF IRVING AND THE PRESIDENT OF THE TEXAS COURT CLERKS ASSOCIATION. TOGETHER, WE SINCERELY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TO CELEBRATE A REMARKABLE, REMARKABLE MILESTONE. OUT OF APPROXIMATELY 4000 CLERKS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, THERE'S ONLY BEEN 149 CERTIFIED COURT CLERKS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. AND WE'RE HERE TO HONOR KAY FOR BEING THE 149TH CERTIFIED MUNICIPAL COURT CLERK. KAY IS DEDICATED SIX YEARS OF THE CITY OF TO THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE, AND FOUR OF THOSE YEARS WITHIN THE MUNICIPAL COURT. I'VE PERSONALLY WITNESSED HER UNWAVERING COMMITMENT, PERSEVERANCE, AND DEDICATION AS SHE TACKLED THIS RIGOROUS. THE RIGOROUS REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CERTIFICATION PROCESS, HER HARD WORK AND DETERMINATION HAVE NOW LED TO THIS WELL-DESERVED ACCOMPLISHMENT. BUT THIS ACHIEVEMENT IS MORE THAN JUST PERSONAL SUCCESS. IT'S A TESTAMENT TO THE DEDICATION AND EXPERTISE REQUIRED TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITIES AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL. BECOMING A CERTIFIED MUNICIPAL COURT CLERK DEMANDS EXTENSIVE LEGAL KNOWLEDGE, MASTERY OF THE JUDICIARY PROCESSES, AND A STEADFAST COMMITMENT TO PROFESSIONALISM AND ETHICAL SERVICE. THIS ACCOMPLISHMENT ALSO REFLECTS THE TREMENDOUS SUPPORT AND ENCOURAGEMENT PROVIDED BY THIS CITY, THIS LEADERSHIP AND THIS COMMUNITY, A CULTURE THAT [00:45:03] FOSTERS PROFESSIONAL GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT. KAY, SUCCESS IS LOUISVILLE'S SUCCESS. HER EXPERTISE DIRECTLY STRENGTHENS OUR MUNICIPAL COURT SYSTEM, ENSURING GREATER EFFICIENCY, ACCURACY, AND RESPONSIVENESS TO THOSE WE SERVE. IT ENHANCES ACCESS TO JUSTICE, REINFORCES PUBLIC TRUST, AND ULTIMATELY BENEFITS EVERY MEMBER OF THIS COMMUNITY. ON BEHALF OF THE TEXAS COURT CLERKS ASSOCIATION, THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL COURTS EDUCATION CENTER, AND TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY, IT'S OUR GREAT HONOR TO EXTEND OUR SINCEREST CONGRATULATIONS TO KAY, JEREMY, AND THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US THIS PRIVILEGE OF BEING HERE TONIGHT TO PRESENT KAY WITH THE CERTIFIED MUNICIPAL COURT CLERK CERTIFICATE AND HER PLAQUE. CONGRATULATIONS, KAY. WE'RE SO INCREDIBLY PROUD OF YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR THAT. SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU EVERYBODY. NOW DO YOU WANT TO. OH YES. THANK YOU. IT LOOKS LIKE CHRISTMAS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE ORDER JUST A LITTLE BIT TO TRY AND OPTIMIZE SOME TIME TONIGHT. FIRST UP I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO [G. Visitors Forum] ITEM G, THE VISITORS FORUM. SPEAKERS MUST ADDRESS THEIR COMMENTS TO THE MAYOR RATHER THAN INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS OR STAFF. SPEAKERS SHOULD SPEAK CLEARLY AND STATE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS PRIOR TO BEGINNING THEIR REMARKS. SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED FIVE MINUTES FOR TESTIMONY. SPEAKERS MAKING PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT, PROFANE, OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE MEETING. UNAUTHORIZED REMARKS FROM THE AUDIENCE. STAMPING OF FEET, WHISTLES, YELLS, CLAPPING, AND SIMILAR DEMONSTRATIONS WILL NOT BE PERMITTED. IN ACCORDANCE WITH TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, THE CITY COUNCIL IS RESTRICTED FROM DISCUSSING OR TAKING ACTION ON ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA. ACTION CAN ONLY BE TAKEN AT A FUTURE MEETING. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE ALREADY FILLED OUT CARDS, WE'RE GOING TO GET TO YOU ALL. NOT A PROBLEM. BUT IF THERE'S ANYBODY HERE WHO IS WANTING TO SPEAK TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE VISITOR'S FORUM, I DO HAVE A COUPLE. I HAVE GEORGIANA BUSTOS. IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND. LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DRIVING COLONY. WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING AROUND TO DIFFERENT CITY COUNCILS TO KIND OF EXPLAIN A LOT OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS, AND HOW THE LACK OF FUNDING IS GOING TO EVENTUALLY HURT OUR MUNICIPALITIES. SO TONIGHT I'M HERE BECAUSE OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE AT A BREAKING POINT. THE CHALLENGES THEY FACE TODAY WILL, IF LEFT UNADDRESSED, AFFECT OUR ENTIRE MUNICIPALITY BECAUSE THE CORRELATION BETWEEN STRONG PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND A VIBRANT, HEALTHY COMMUNITY IS UNMISTAKABLE. PUBLIC SCHOOLS ACROSS TEXAS ARE IN A CRISIS. DESPITE A 26% RISE IN INFLATION SINCE 2019, THE PER STUDENT BASIC ALLOTMENT HAS REMAINED STAGNANT AT $6,160. RATHER THAN ADDRESSING THIS, OUR LEGISLATORS ARE USING SCHOOL FUNDING AS A BARGAINING CHIP FOR VOUCHERS, WHICH WOULD DIVERT EVEN MORE RESOURCES AWAY FROM OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS. THEY CLAIM THERE IS NO MONEY. YET TEXAS HAS $21 BILLION IN SURPLUS FOR OUR PUBLIC EDUCATION IN 2023 ALONE, 4.5 BILLION IN RECAPTURE WAS REDIRECTED TO THE STATE'S GENERAL FUND. INSTEAD OF BEING REINVESTED INTO OUR EDUCATION. IT WASN'T PUT INTO OUR STATE'S SCHOOL FUND. ALMOST $5 BILLION WAS PUT INTO A GENERAL FUND THAT DIDN'T COME BACK, RESTORING US BACK TO OUR 2019 FUNDING LEVELS WOULD COST JUST $9.3 BILLION. THAT'S JUST A FRACTION OF WHAT'S AVAILABLE. TO ME, IT IS COMPLETELY UNFATHOMABLE THAT TEXAS IS THE EIGHTH LARGEST ECONOMY IN THE WORLD, YET WE RANK 43 OUT OF 50 FOR SCHOOL FUNDING. HERE'S WHAT OUR SCHOOLS NEED. AN INCREASE IN THE BASIC ALLOTMENT OF $1,600, WHICH WOULD BE TIED TO AND ALSO TIED TO INFLATION FUNDING BASED OFF OF ENROLLMENT, NOT ATTENDANCE. ALL RECAPTURE FUNDS DEPOSITED INTO THE STATE EDUCATION FUND AND NOT OUR GENERAL FUND. A NO AND A FIRM NO TO VOUCHERS THAT TAKE MORE MONEY AWAY FROM OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS. LISD ALONE, I THINK, IS LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY ANOTHER $20 MILLION JUST WITH VOUCHERS ALONE, BY RAISING THE PER STUDENT ALLOTMENT AND TYING IT TO INFLATION. OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS CAN NOT ONLY BE SOLVENT, BUT THIS SINGLE ACT WOULD RESOLVE THE DISTRICT'S MOST PRESSING FINANCIAL ISSUES. $12 MILLION PER YEAR IN DEFICIT SPENDING FOR OUR SPECIAL EDUCATION. THIS INCLUDES EVERYTHING FROM GIFTED AND [00:50:04] TALENTED TO OUR SPECIAL NEEDS STUDENTS. $1.3 MILLION PER YEAR IN DEFICIT SPENDING FOR TRANSPORTATION. $5 MILLION A YEAR IN DEFICIT SPENDING FOR OUR UNFUNDED SAFETY AND SECURITY MANDATES, AND 3.8 MILLION TO 4.3 MILLION IN DEFICIT SPENDING FOR OUR PRE-K. BECAUSE THE STATE ONLY FUNDS UP TO HALF DAYS. THIS MEANS LISD WOULD BE FORCED TO DEFICIT SPEND AT ANYWHERE BETWEEN 21.9 MILLION, OR 22.4 MILLION PER YEAR. A RICE UNIVERSITY STUDY FOUND THAT 73% OF OUR TEXAS SCHOOLS ARE CURRENTLY UNDERFUNDED. 17% OF THOSE SCHOOLS ARE SEVERELY UNDERFUNDED, WITH A 40% DEFICIT GAP. ANYBODY HERE CAN PAY THEIR BILLS WITH A 40% DEFICIT GAP. PLEASE LET ME KNOW. BUT THIS RIGHT NOW, THIS IS THE REALITY OF OUR SCHOOLS. WHAT WHAT ARE THEY LOOKING AT? FORECLOSURE. BANKRUPTCY, DOWNSIZING, AND IN FACT, IN 2022, LISD SENT $60 MILLION BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND. EVEN AFTER WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION OF $100,000. LISD STILL LOOKING AT SENDING BACK $12 MILLION TO THE GENERAL FUND THROUGH RECAPTURE. AND IF ANYONE CAN DO THE NUMBERS AT $22 MILLION DEFICIT IN A $60 MILLION THAT WAS SENT BACK, WE HAD THE MONEY. IT WAS TAKEN. IF THE STATE RAISED THE BASIC ALLOTMENT, FEWER DISTRICTS WOULD BE SUBJECT TO RECAPTURE. THE LOCAL TAX DOLLARS WOULD STAY IN OUR COMMUNITIES WHERE THEY BELONG. FUNDING PUBLIC EDUCATION SHOULD NEVER BE CONSIDERED A DEFICIT. IT IS AN INVESTMENT THAT STRENGTHENS OUR COMMUNITIES. AND FROM HERE, I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO PASS IT ON TO MY OTHER LADY WHO'S GOING TO READ THE SECOND HALF OF THE CRYSTAL. THANK YOU FOR THAT, CRYSTAL. AS. NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. HI, I'M CRYSTAL TELLEZ AND I'M AT 721 EAST TEXAS STREET IN GRAPEVINE, TEXAS. AND I AM HERE REPRESENTING A GROUP OF PARENTS ALL ACROSS NORTH TEXAS IN VARIOUS ISD'S TO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE ISD'S, AND WE'RE NOW FOCUSING ON WORKING WITH OUR CITY COUNCILS. TO TAKE ON FROM WHERE JORDANNA LEFT OFF, A STUDY IN THE PUBLIC POLICY INSTITUTE OF CALIFORNIA FOUND THAT A 10% INCREASE IN SCHOOL FUNDING OVER 12 YEARS RESULTED IN 7.7% HIGHER WAGES FOR STUDENT LATER IN LIFE, AND A 9.8% INCREASE IN FAMILY INCOME FOR THOSE SAME STUDENTS. ANOTHER STUDY FOUND THAT PROPERTY VALUES INCREASE WHEN SCHOOL DISTRICTS INVEST IN THEIR TEACHERS AND STAFF, WHICH IS 80% OF LEWISVILLE ISD'S BUDGET. STRONG SCHOOLS LEAD TO THRIVING COMMUNITIES. WHEN SCHOOLS LOSE FUNDING, THEY ARE FORCED TO CLOSE SCHOOLS, CUT PROGRAMS AND LEAVE ACADEMIC NEEDS UNMET, WHICH IS ALREADY HAPPENING ACROSS NORTH TEXAS, INCLUDING JUST OUR LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD. ISD'S EVERY CHILD IS IMPACTED. THEIR FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES SHRINK. WHEN OUR CHILDREN SUFFER, OUR COMMUNITIES SUFFER. WHY SHOULD OUR CITY COUNCILS CARE? WHY ARE WE COMING TO Y'ALL? BECAUSE UNDERFUNDED SCHOOLS HARM ENTIRE COMMUNITIES, NOT JUST THE STUDENTS. THE RIPPLE EFFECTS TOUCH EVERY ASPECT OF OUR CITY, INCLUDING OUR PROPERTY VALUES DROP, SHRINKING THE CITY'S TAX BASE AND REDUCING FUNDS FOR ROADS, PARKS AND ESSENTIAL SERVICES. COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT DECLINES, WEAKENING THE OVERALL QUALITY OF LIFE. CAREER OPPORTUNITIES SHRINK, LEADING STUDENTS WITH FEWER PATHS TO SUCCESS. HIGHER CRIME RATES, AS DEMONSTRATED BY THE NBER WORKING PAPER SERIES, WHICH FOUND THAT A 10% INCREASE IN KINDERGARTEN THROUGH THIRD GRADE FUNDING REDUCED THE LIKELIHOOD OF ARREST BY AGE 30 BY 15%. WE CAN ALREADY SEE THE WARNING SIGNS HERE IN LEWISVILLE. IN 2022, LEWISVILLE ISD WAS VOTED ONE OF THE BEST PLACES TO WORK. BUT BY 2024, 70% OF TEACHERS ARE UNSURE IF THEY CAN AFFORD TO RETURN. IF WE DON'T ACT NOW, WE WILL LOSE. OUR COMMUNITIES WILL LOSE, AND THE COST OF REPAIRING THE DAMAGE IS FAR GREATER THAN PREVENTING IT IN THE FIRST PLACE. THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE IS AN AMAZING CITY TODAY BECAUSE OF THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE, AND I KNOW WITH CONFIDENCE THAT YOU CARE ABOUT LOUISVILLE AND ITS FUTURE. SCHOOLS MATTER. FAMILIES DO NOT MOVE TO A COMMUNITY FOR THE HOPE OF A VOUCHER. THEY MOVE FOR THE GREAT SCHOOLS, THE FAMILY FRIENDLY NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO THRIVE. WHEN WE TAKE THAT AWAY, WE ALL SUFFER. WHETHER WE HAVE KIDS IN SCHOOL OR NOT, EDUCATION MATTERS. SO LET'S MAKE SURE OUR SCHOOLS GET THE FUNDING THAT THEY DESERVE. BECAUSE WHEN OUR SCHOOLS SUCCEED, LOUISVILLE SUCCEEDS. I URGE EACH OF YOU TO REACH OUT TO [00:55:03] OUR LEGISLATORS AND EMPHASIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF INCREASING THE BASIC ALLOTMENT BY $1,600 AND TYING IT TO INFLATION, NOT JUST AS CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT AS CITIZENS OF THIS GREAT COMMUNITY. ADDITIONALLY, I WILL BE TAKING THIS MESSAGE TO AUSTIN AND WE WOULD LOVE FOR ANYONE TO JOIN US WHO HAS WHO CAN COME? IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, YOU CAN PLEASE REACH OUT TO ME OR GEORGIANA BUSTOS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THE INPUT. CITY SECRETARY, CAN YOU PLEASE MAKE SURE WE HAVE PROPER CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THESE TWO SPEAKERS? I'D LOVE TO TALK WITH THEM AFTERWARDS, PLEASE. THANK YOU. MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. SIR, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND REACH OUT TO THE REST OF COUNCIL VIA EMAIL. BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE. SUBMISSIONS FOR PUBLIC SPEAKING ARE FULL. I DO HAVE A CARD FOR JOCELYN MCMURRAY. OKAY, SIR. IF YOU WANT TO FILL OUT A CARD, I'VE BEEN TOLD BY MY CITY ATTORNEY WE CAN GET YOU IN. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO FILL OUT A SPEAKER'S CARD, WE CAN PUT YOU IN FOR THAT PART. EARLIER. YEAH, WE NEED ANOTHER ONE FOR THIS. FOR THIS TOPIC. MY APOLOGIES. OKAY. JOCELYN. GOOD EVENING. I'M JOCELYN MCMURRAY, 1029 STAFFORD LANE IN LEWISVILLE. MY CONCERN WAS THE WATER OUTAGE THAT WE HAD AND THE NOTIFICATION. I'M USED TO GETTING EMAILS AND GETTING TELEPHONE CALLS TELLING ME, YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMETHING IS GOING ON WITH THE WEATHER AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT THE MAP THAT WAS DISPLAYED ON EMAIL WAS VERY UNCLEAR ON HOW TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER I WAS IN OR OUT OF THE AFFECTED ZONE. I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF WE COULD POSSIBLY ENROLL THAT WHOLE SYSTEM INTO WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY USING. AS FAR AS NOTIFICATION TO, YOU KNOW, CITIZENS WHEN THINGS HAPPEN, WHY WE CAN'T PUT THAT INTO THAT SAME PROCESS BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE ZIP CODES, YOU HAVE THE EMAIL AND TELEPHONE NUMBERS. IT SHOULD BE A WAY THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ACT ON THAT AND SHARE THAT INFORMATION, VERSUS TRYING TO LOOK AT A LITTLE MAP THAT HAD A LINE THAT, DEPENDING WHAT KIND OF PRINTER YOU HAD, DETERMINE HOW YOU COULD READ IT. SO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT AND AGAIN, I HAVE EVERYBODY'S NUMBERS ON SPEED DIAL, BUT I THOUGHT I WOULD DO THIS IN A GROUP MEETING. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU CHIEF SWEET. CHIEF SWEET. CAN YOU GO MEET WITH HER? CAN YOU GO MEET WITH HER TO GET GET HER INFORMATION ABOUT OUR RESPONSE? THANK YOU. FOR THAT. I'M GOING TO KEEP THIS VISITOR'S FORUM OPEN. WE HAVE THAT ONE OTHER SPEAKER TO COME, [H. Consent Agenda] BUT I AM GOING TO GO AHEAD AND FOR COUNCIL, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO ITEM H CONSENT AGENDA. WE'LL COME BACK TO G. ALL THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED SELF-EXPLANATORY BY THE COUNCIL AND ENACTED WITH ONE MOTION. THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS UNLESS A COUNCIL MEMBER OR MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC. SO REQUESTS, FOR A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC REQUEST. REMOVAL OF AN ITEM. A SPEAKER COMMENT MUST BE FILLED OUT. SUBMITTED BY THE CITY SECRETARY. I DO NOT HAVE ANY REQUESTS FOR PULLING AN ITEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. SO COUNCIL, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND COUNCIL, IF YOU PLEASE, VOTE. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. [F. Public Input] ALRIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO ITEM F. WE'LL KEEP ITEM G OPEN. ITEM F PUBLIC INPUT. WE HAVE PUBLIC INPUT FOR OUR SHORT TERM RENTAL REGULATIONS PORTION ON THIS AGENDA. WE'VE ASKED FOLKS IF THEY WOULD SIGN UP TO SPEAK ON THAT. IT'S ITEM F ONE. SO I DO HAVE SOME SPEAKERS ON THIS. THIS IS JUST TO GATHER INPUT REGARDING POTENTIAL ORDINANCES ON SHORT TERM RENTAL REGULATIONS, POTENTIAL FOR FUTURE DENSITY RESTRICTIONS, AND OR POTENTIAL LIMIT ON THE TOTAL NUMBER OF STR PERMITS ISSUED CITYWIDE. CITY IS SEEKING INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC AND COUNCIL DISCUSSION REGARDING THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE CURRENT SHORT TERM RENTAL REGULATIONS, THE ADOPTION OF DENSITY RESTRICTIONS, HOW MANY STARS CAN LOCATE, AND OR THE ADOPTION OF A LIMIT OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF STRS PERMITTED CITYWIDE. SO WE DO HAVE A FEW CARDS THAT HAVE BEEN FILLED OUT FOR THIS ONE. WAHIN. MY APOLOGIES. MORALES, JOAQUIN. YOUR. NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE, SIR. 1325 CEDAR RIDGE DRIVE, LEWISVILLE. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I STAND BEFORE YOU TO DEFEND THE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS. [01:00:05] FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS, OUR RIGHTS AS PROPERTY OWNERS TO USE AND LEASE AND MANAGE OUR HOMES AS WE SEE FIT, FREE FROM OVERREACHING GOVERNMENT INTERFERENCE. THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION IS CLEAR. NO CITIZEN SHALL BE DEPRIVED OF LIFE, LIBERTY, OR PROPERTY WITHOUT DUE PROCESS OF LAW. YET ACROSS TEXAS, IN THE COUNTY, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE TRYING TO STRIP HOMEOWNERS OF THEIR RIGHTS TO RENT THEIR PROPERTY ON THE SHORT TERM BASIS. THIS IS NOT JUST AN ATTACK ON PROPERTY OWNERS. IT'S AN ATTACK ON THE VERY FREEDOM THAT OUR STATE AND COUNTY AND COUNTRY WAS BUILT UPON. THE RECENT RULING FOR THE RECENT RULING IN CITY OF DALLAS VERSUS THE. D T R A REFORMS THAT WE ARE ABLE THAT WE ALREADY KNOW AS HOMEOWNERS. WE HAVE THE WE HAVE THE VESTED RIGHT TO LEASE OUR PROPERTY AND ANY ATTEMPT BY GOVERNMENT TO TAKE AWAY VIOLATIONS DUE TO COURSE OF LAW. OR I WROTE THIS LAST MINUTE. SORRY, GUYS. LAWS, PROTECTIONS. THE FIFTH, THE FIFTH, THE FIFTH COURT ACKNOWLEDGES THAT PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE THE RIGHT TO RENT OUT THEIR PROPERTY AS THEY SEE FIT. ALSO LIMITING LIMITING PERMITS TO PROPERTY OWNERS IS NOT THE CORRECT WAY TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YOU SHOULD NEVER LIMIT. A PROPERTY OWNER SHOULD NOT HAVE MORE RIGHTS THAN ANOTHER. SO I DON'T BELIEVE THE LEWISVILLE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO LIMIT THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN IN A SPECIFIC AREA TO THE AMOUNT OF RENTALS THAT SHOULD BE IN A SPECIFIC GEO LOCATION. IF THE CITY OF LEWISVILLE CONTINUES TO GROW OUT THIS ROUTE. I BELIEVE ME, MYSELF AND OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS DO HAVE THE VESTED INTEREST TO PURSUE THE SAME VESTED. CONCLUSION THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS CAME TO CONCLUSION VERSUS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. MR. JEFF WOODS. YES. JEFF WOODS, 1001 FOREST PARK DRIVE, LEWISVILLE, TEXAS. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, CITY STAFF AND COUNCIL. TONIGHT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF IMPLEMENTING A DENSITY CLAUSE FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS IN OUR CITY. AS WE HAVE SEEN THE RISE OF PLATFORMS LIKE AIRBNB AND VRBO HAS BROUGHT UNDENIABLE ECONOMIC BENEFITS FROM INCREASED TOURISM TO NEW INCOME STREAMS FOR HOMEOWNERS AND THE CITY. HOWEVER, WITHOUT THOUGHTFUL REGULATION, THESE SHORT TERM RENTALS CAN ALSO CREATE SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. THE DENSITY CLAUSE HELPS STRIKE A CRITICAL BALANCE BY LIMITING THE CONCENTRATION OF SHORT TERM RENTALS IN SPECIFIC AREAS. WE CAN PROTECT THE CHARACTER OF RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, ENSURE HOUSING AVAILABILITY FOR LONG TERM RESIDENTS, AND PREVENT ISSUES LIKE NOISE DISTURBANCES AND INCREASED TRAFFIC. WITH TOO MANY PROPERTIES IN ONE AREA BECOME SHORT TERM RENTALS, COMMUNITIES BEGIN TO ERODE. NEIGHBORS STOP KNOWING EACH OTHER. SCHOOLS LOSE STUDENTS AND LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT RELY ON YEAR ROUND RESIDENTS SUFFER. FURTHERMORE, A DENSITY CORES HELPS STABILIZE HOUSING MARKETS IN CITIES. WITHOUT SUCH MEASURES, WE SEE PROPERTY PRICES AND RENTS SKYROCKET, PUSHING OUT RESIDENTS WHO HAVE CALLED THESE NEIGHBORHOODS HOMES FOR DECADES. BY CAPPING THE NUMBER OF SHORT TERM RENTALS, WE PROTECT HOUSING AFFORDABILITY AND PRIORITIZE THE LONG TERM HEALTH OF OUR COMMUNITY. IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE NEED FOR REASONABLE REGULATIONS, LIKE DENSITY CLAUSES AND POPULATION CAPS, IS SUPPORTED BY LEGAL PRECEDENT IN STARK VERSUS THE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS CASE NUMBER 21 30643, THE US COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE FIFTH DISTRICT ACKNOWLEDGED THE AUTHORITY OF MUNICIPALITIES TO REGULATE SHORT TERM RENTALS IN ORDER TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC INTEREST. THIS CASE SERVES AS A REMINDER THAT CITIES SUCH AS ULYSSES AND SAN ANTONIO, WITH LONG STANDING STANDING DENSITY CLAUSES, HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN PRESERVING THE FABRIC OF THEIR COMMUNITIES WHILE MANAGING THE IMPACTS OF THIS RAPIDLY GROWING INDUSTRY. THIS ISN'T ABOUT STOPPING SHORT TERM RENTALS ENTIRELY OR INFRINGING ON PROPERTY OWNER RIGHTS. IT'S ABOUT RESPONSIBLE GROWTH AND PRESERVING THE LIVABILITY OF OUR CITY AND ALREADY WELL ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS. A WELL STRUCTURED DENSITY CLAUSE ENSURES THAT THE SHORT TERM RENTALS CAN COEXIST WITH STRONG, STABLE NEIGHBORHOODS. LET'S PLAN FOR A CITY THAT WELCOMES VISITORS WHILE SAFEGUARDING HOMES FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE YEAR ROUND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. BRANT MYERS. [01:05:18] NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE, SIR. BRANT MYERS, 938 SOUTHWOOD DRIVE, HIGHLAND VILLAGE, TEXAS. I ALSO HAVE A PROPERTY AT 1543 CHISHOLM TRAIL HERE IN IN LEWISVILLE. WHICH IS A LONG TERM RENTAL, NOT A SHORT TERM RENTAL. JUST TO BE CLEAR. I'M HERE THIS EVENING TO REPRESENT THE GREATER LEWISVILLE ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS. AS ALWAYS, WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT PRESERVING PROPERTY OWNER RIGHTS. IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE STAND STRONGLY FOR. WE BELIEVE THAT HOMEOWNERS SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE THEIR PROPERTY AS THEY SEE FIT, INCLUDING SHORT TERM RENTALS, AS LONG AS THEY DON'T VIOLATE THE EXISTING NOISE, SAFETY OR NUISANCE LAWS. RESTRICTING STRS IN ANY FORM INFRINGES ON A FUNDAMENTAL PROPERTY, RIGHT. AS GENTLEMAN SAID EARLIER, WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE ECONOMIC BENEFITS TO HAVING SHORT TERM RENTALS. ACCORDING TO STATISTICS FROM, I USED AIRBNB ANALYTICS FROM THEIR WEBSITE. SHORT TERM RENTAL MARKET IN LEWISVILLE HAS SEEN SIGNIFICANT GROWTH. AS OF APRIL 2024, THERE WERE ROUGHLY 489 ACTIVE AIRBNB LISTINGS, WITH HOSTS EARNING AN AVERAGE ANNUAL REVENUE OF 31,000. THESE RENTALS MAINTAINED A MEDIAN OCCUPANCY RATE OF 61% AND AN AVERAGE DAILY RATE OF $138. SO WE KNOW THAT THERE'S MONEY COMING IN. THAT ALSO RELATES TO WHEN THOSE PEOPLE COME TO TOWN. THEY SPEND MONEY AT RESTAURANTS AND OTHER BUSINESSES AS WELL AS EVENTS. WE ARE ASKING FOR FAIR AND CONSISTENT REGULATIONS. STRS SHOULD BE REGULATED FAIRLY, JUST LIKE LONG TERM RENTALS AND OTHER PROPERTY USES, RATHER THAN BEING BANNED OR EXCESSIVELY RESTRICTED. TARGETED ENFORCEMENT OF NOISE, PARKING AND OCCUPANCY RULES CAN ADDRESS CONCERNS WITHOUT TAKING AWAY THE PROPERTY RIGHTS. ACCORDING TO EXCUSE ME, ACCORDING TO THE COMMUNITY IMPACT MAGAZINE, THE CITY HAS ALREADY IMPLEMENTED AN ORDINANCE ON JULY 8TH, 2024 REQUIRING STR OWNERS TO OBTAIN ANNUAL PERMITS, PASS INSPECTIONS AND ADHERE TO SPECIFIC OPERATIONAL STANDARDS. SO AS TEXANS, WE WANT TO LIMIT GOVERNMENT OVERREACH, EXCESSIVE RESTRICTIONS OR BANS ON STRS. IT SETS A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT FOR OR FOR GOVERNMENT OVERREACH INTO PRIVATE PROPERTY USE. AND WE BELIEVE THAT A BALANCED APPROACH, RATHER THAN A HEAVY HANDED RESTRICTIONS. RESPECTS INDIVIDUAL LIBERTIES WHILE ADDRESSING LEGITIMATE CONCERNS FROM THE COMMUNITY. I THINK THE BIGGEST CONCERN THAT WE HAVE, AND I WOULD HAVE AS A REALTOR IS THE ENFORCEMENT SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE MUDDY. AS FAR AS TRACKING, AS FAR AS PENALTIES. AND THEN IF I HAVE A CLIENT WHO PURCHASES A HOME, WHO INTENDS TO USE IT AS AN STR AND DOESN'T INFORM ME, HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO CONVEY THAT INFORMATION TO THAT PERSON THAT THEN SPENDS THAT MONEY AND TURNS AROUND AND OWNS AN ASSET THAT THEY CAN'T USE? SO WE'RE WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE FAIR REGULATION. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE ITEMS IN PLACE AND REGULATIONS IN PLACE TO HELP CONTROL THOSE. WE KNOW THERE'S A FEW BAD ACTORS IN THE AREA, AND WE BELIEVE THAT THE COMPANIES THAT RUN THOSE NEED TO POLICE THAT BETTER. SO WE'RE JUST WANTING TO PUT FORWARD THAT FOR THE REAL ESTATE COMMUNITY. WE BELIEVE IN THE PROPERTY RIGHTS AND THE USE OF THOSE PROPERTIES. AS THAT OWNER SEES FIT. THANK YOU. LAUREN BILLINGS OH, YEAH. SORRY. I KNOW THAT YOU. THINK IT'S ALL RIGHT TO BE EXCITED AT PUBLIC MEETINGS. IT'S GREAT. IT'S CIVIC. CIVIC RESPONSIBILITY RIGHT THERE. YEAH. BEING A CITIZEN. ALL RIGHT. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. OH, YEAH. MY NAME IS LAUREN BILLINGS. I LIVE AT 1008 VANCOUVER DRIVE. NO, I'M NOT NORMAL. YOU KNOW, WITH THESE MEETINGS, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT WE'RE A COMMUNITY AND WE GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IN FRONT OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND CHOOSE HOW WE WANT OUR CITY RAN. I LIKE LIVING HERE BECAUSE IT'S A COMMUNITY. WE GET TO COME HOME, GO GROCERY SHOPPING AND GO HOME AND LIVE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS KNOW, BUT SOME PEOPLE DON'T GET THAT EVERY DAY. I COME FROM A PLACE, AND IN MY FAMILY'S HISTORY, IT DIDN'T START OUT LIKE THAT. MY MOM HAD A DAD AND HE HAD TWO WIVES, AND SHE SHARED THE HOUSE WITH LIKE SEVEN SISTERS, TWO BROTHERS. AND WHEN YOUR DAD HAS TWO WIVES, IT GETS [01:10:02] REALLY COMPLICATED AND CONFUSING. SO US ARGUING OVER WHAT TO DO WITH PROPERTY. SEEMS, YOU KNOW, THERE COULD BE WORSE THINGS. WE COULD BE PICKED UP BY A PTERODACTYL. YOU KNOW, THERE ARE WORSE THINGS IN THE WORLD. I FIND IT VERY. FUNNY THAT WE ARE HAVING THIS MEETING AT THE SAME TIME AS THE WAREHOUSE STUFF, BECAUSE STRS AND WAREHOUSES, YOU'RE KIND OF RUNNING INTO AN INTERESTING SOCIOLOGICAL PROBLEM HERE. I GOT MY DEGREE IN FAMILY STUDIES. WHAT THAT MEANS IS I STUDIED EVERYTHING FROM THE WOMB TO THE TOMB. AND THIS FALLS UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF SOCIOLOGY. MY CONFUSION COMES FROM YOU WANT THIS PLACE TO BE A PLACE OF ECONOMIC GROWTH, WHERE YOU HAVE WAREHOUSES, BUT YOU WANT TO LIMIT THEM ON GROWING BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE LIVING HERE, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE PUTTING STOPS ON HOW MANY STARS THERE ARE WHILE TRYING TO FULFILL THAT ECONOMIC GROWTH. BUT IF THE WAREHOUSE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE REPRESENTING THE WAREHOUSES, THEY SHOULD SPEAK UP AND SAY THEY DON'T WANT THE STRS, OR ELSE WHERE ARE THEIR EMPLOYEES GOING TO COME FROM? BECAUSE HAVING ALL THESE FLIGHTY INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE JUST COMING AND GOING FOR THE TOURISM AREN'T ACTUALLY GOING TO BE THE PEOPLE DEVELOPING OUR ECONOMICS. THAT'S JUST A TINY BASIC INFORMATION FROM SOMEBODY WHO STUDIED BABIES AND DEATH. JUST A LITTLE BIT OF MY $0.02. BUT HONESTLY, I LOVE LEWISVILLE BECAUSE IT'S NOT A CRAZY TOURIST TRAP LIKE FRISCO. THERE'S A LOT OF LIGHTS THERE. AND AS MUCH AS I LOVE YOU GUYS, Y'ALL ARE NOT A TOURIST TRAP. MY RECOMMENDATION AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ANYTHING I SAY I'M JUST A GIRL WHO STUDIED A LOT OF STATS, READ A LOT OF RESEARCH PAPERS ABOUT BABIES, ADOLESCENTS, AND PEOPLE BEHAVIORS THAT I COULD GO INTO THAT I DON'T REALLY FEEL LIKE IT. AND I GOT TWO MINUTES LEFT. LOOK AT YOUR HOTELS AND SEE HOW MUCH THEY'RE BOOKED UP, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S HOTELS IN LEWISVILLE. THAT'S WHERE I PUT MY MOTHER IN LAW. SEE HOW MUCH THEY'RE BOOKED UP. AND I THINK THAT WILL REALLY GIVE YOU A SENSE ON IF WE REALLY NEED STRS. AND THEN YOU CAN ALSO LOOK AT HOW MANY SCHOOLS WE CLOSE LAST YEAR, BECAUSE I CAN ALSO LET YOU KNOW, FROM A FAMILY SCIENCES POINT OF VIEW, A DYING SOCIETY LOOKS LIKE NO CHILDREN. AND THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MATT NELSON. NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE, SIR. MATT NELSON, 1600 HIGHLAND VILLAGE ROAD, HIGHLAND VILLAGE. ALSO A LONGTIME LEWISVILLE RESIDENT AND BUSINESS OWNER AND PROPERTY OWNER IN LEWISVILLE. THANK YOU GUYS FOR TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR THESE COMMENTS. MY ONLY COMMENT IS THAT NO MATTER HOW, NO MATTER WHAT IS DECIDED, THAT THERE BE A WILLINGNESS TO LISTEN TO EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE EXCEPTIONS IN THE FAVOR OF NEW STRS. I'M AN STR OWNER IN OTHER AREAS AND OTHER CITIES, AND ALSO HAVE LIVED BY. AND AS EVERYBODY PROBABLY KNOWS, IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE QUALITY OF THE OWNER. AND I HAVE A PROPERTY IN LEWISVILLE, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT I WOULD LIKE TO APPLY FOR THAT FOR AN STR THAT HAS NO NEIGHBORS, IT'S A BIG HOUSE, A BIG LOT THAT I THINK THAT WOULD HELP BRING TOURISM TO THE AREA AND NOT BE A NUISANCE TO ANY OTHER NEIGHBORS IN THE AREA. SO MY ASK IS THAT NO MATTER WHAT IS DECIDED REGARDING STR, THAT THOSE EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES BE LOOKED AT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. THAT WOULD ALLOW STRS IN THAT CASE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. APPRECIATE EVERYONE WHO HAS COME TO GIVE PUBLIC INPUT ON THAT. IT WILL HELP US WITH OUR DECISION MAKING PROCESS. I HAVE ITEM G STILL OPEN. MR. BILLINGTON. THIS WAS A COMMENT YOU WISH TO MAKE REGARDING SCHOOL FUNDING. YEAH. AND JAMES BILLINGTON, I LIVE IN THE COLONY AND I PUT MY BOTH OF MY CHILDREN THROUGH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, AND IT'S DIFFERENT NOW THAN IT WAS WHEN I PUT MY KIDS THROUGH THERE WHEN THOSE DAYS. AND THEY BUILT SCHOOLS. THE SCHOOLS WERE MODERATE IN DESIGN, YOU KNOW, IN AFFLUENCE, TODAY'S SCHOOLS ARE A WASTE OF MONEY, A GIANT WASTE OF MONEY. THESE SCHOOLS TODAY THAT THE LISD BUILDS RIVAL OFFICE BUILDINGS. SO IF THESE LADIES ARE WONDERING WHY THERE'S NO MONEY. IT'S BECAUSE YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICT IS JUST IT AWAY. SO ANYWAY, IF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS WANT TO IMPROVE THEIR SCHOOLS, THEY NEED TO GET REAL ABOUT THE WAY THEY WASTE OUR MONEY. SO YES, I LIKE THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS. I LIKE SCHOOLS, MY KIDS. I HAVE A DAUGHTER THAT WENT THROUGH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AND SHE'S AN ATTORNEY. OKAY. SO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IN LEWISVILLE HAS WORKED. HOWEVER, IT'S NOT BEEN WORKING VERY WELL BECAUSE LISD WASTE OUR [01:15:08] PROPERTY TAX MONEY, WHICH THE LION'S SHARE OF OUR PROPERTY TAXES GOES TO THE SCHOOLS. NOW, AS THESE PROPERTY TAXES INCREASE, WE'RE GOING TO RUN OLDER PEOPLE OUT OF THE STATE. WE HAVE SOME OF THE HIGHEST PROPERTY TAXES IN THE UNITED STATES, AND THAT IS DUE TO THE SCHOOLS THEY BUILD, THESE BIG STADIUMS THAT 1% OF THE STUDENTS USE. THEY'VE GOTTEN RID OF MOST OF THE WOODSHOP, AUTOMOTIVE CLASSES, THAT SORT OF THING. OKAY. WE NEED TO GET KIDS BACK INTO CONSTRUCTION. WE NEED TO GET KIDS, YOU KNOW, TO STAY IN THE COMPUTER STUFF. BUT WE NEED BASIC SCHOOLS. WE DON'T NEED GIANT 3 OR 4 STORY, GLASS COVERED SCHOOLS TO TEACH THESE KIDS. IT'S NOT NECESSARY. IT'S A WASTE OF OUR TAX MONEY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ON IT, GUYS. THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT. WE DO HAVE A FEW OTHER PUBLIC INPUTS. I'M JUST GOING TO BRIEFLY READ INTO THE RECORD. I HAVE A. EMAIL FROM IT'S NOT TO CANDACE WELCH. WHO IS IN AGAINST STR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. THESE AND THESE EMAILS AND WHATNOT CAN BE FOUND IN THE ONLINE PACKET. SO I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO THE DETAIL ON THEM. I DO HAVE ANOTHER EMAIL FROM MR. GARY FERGUSON WHO WOULD LIKE TO SEE INCREASED RESTRICTIONS ON STRS. I HAVE ANOTHER EMAIL FROM MR. TIMOTHY GOORTS, WHO EXPRESSES HIS RIGHTS AS A PROPERTY OWNER. AND DOES NOT WISH TO SEE ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS. I HAVE A COMMENT FROM SAMANTHA SAMANTHA CUETO. WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CITY IMPLEMENT A DENSITY CLAUSE FOR STRS. I HAVE ANOTHER EMAIL FROM CONNOR TAMLIN. OH, AND THAT ONE MOVES INTO UDC. SO THAT'S A. THAT'S A UDC ONE. SO OKAY, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE FOR ALL OF OUR STR COMMENTS IN THE RECORD. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO ITEM E PUBLIC HEARING. IT'S [E. Public Hearing] A PUBLIC HEARING IS OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE BY AMENDING ARTICLE SEVEN USES PARKING REQUIREMENTS, SUPPLEMENTAL USE REGULATIONS, AND CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS OF VOLUME TWO OF THE LEWISVILLE CITY CODE, KNOWN AS UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, BY AMENDING CHAPTER 7.3, SUPPLEMENTAL USE REGULATIONS, SECTION 7.3.2 FOR MANUFACTURING LIGHT INTENSITY MANUFACTURING, MEDIUM DENSITY MANUFACTURING, HEAVY INTENSITY, AND WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION FACILITY TO PROHIBIT SUCH USES FROM LOCATING IN A PROPERTY WITHIN 500FT OF PROPERTIES CONTAINING CERTAIN OTHER USES WITHOUT A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN EXCEPTIONS, AND AMENDING EXHIBIT 7.2.3 DASH FOR NON RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS. TO CLARIFY APPLICABILITY OF SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUIREMENTS FOR SUCH USES IN CERTAIN ZONING DISTRICTS. IN THE 1970S, THE CITY OF LEWISVILLE WAS AGGRESSIVE IN ZONING FOR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT DUE TO AIRPORT PROXIMITY. THE PREVALENCE OF INDUSTRIAL ZONING, COUPLED WITH THE CUMULATIVE ZONING AT THE TIME, RESULTED IN MANY OFFICE, RETAIL, AND SERVICE USES DEVELOPING WITHIN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, WAREHOUSE AND HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICTS IN SEVERAL AREAS OF THE CITY. THE MARKET HAS EVOLVED TO THE POINT WHERE EVEN DEVELOPED PROPERTIES ARE BEING CONSIDERED FOR DEMOLITION AND CONSTRUCTION OF NEW WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION FACILITIES. THIS CREATES COMPATIBILITY ISSUES BETWEEN THESE NEW DEVELOPMENTS AND EXISTING SURROUNDING USES IN ORDER TO LESSEN THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON SURROUNDING USES AND FACILITATE IMPROVED COMPATIBILITY BETWEEN EXISTING LOW INTENSITY DEVELOPMENT AND POTENTIAL HIGH INTENSITY REDEVELOPMENT, PARTICULARLY IN THE W, H AND H I ZONING DISTRICTS. NEW SUPPLEMENTAL USE REGULATIONS FOR WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION FACILITY IN LIGHT, MEDIUM, AND HEAVY INTENSITY MANUFACTURING USES, ENHANCING SETBACKS. LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING WERE ADOPTED ON DECEMBER 9TH, 2024 TO FURTHER LESSEN NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON AND ENSURE COMPATIBILITY WITH EXISTING DEVELOPMENTS. AMENDMENTS TO THE SUPPLEMENTAL USE REGULATIONS ARE PROPOSED THAT REQUIRE THE APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION FACILITY IN LIGHT, MEDIUM AND HEAVY INTENSITY MANUFACTURING USES. LOCATED WITHIN 500FT OF LESSER INTENSITY USES, THIS REQUIREMENT WOULD NOT APPLY TO BUILDINGS OR STRUCTURES WITH A CURRENT CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR WAREHOUSE, DISTRIBUTION FACILITY, OR PAGE TWO. LIGHT, MEDIUM AND HEAVY INTENSITY MANUFACTURING USES. THE REQUIREMENT WILL ALSO NOT APPLY TO EXISTING PLAN DEVELOPMENTS. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL 6 TO 1 ON JANUARY 21ST, 2025. OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS, AFFECTED LANDOWNERS HAVE EXPRESSED SEVERAL CONCERNS RELATED TO THE PROPOSED REGULATIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY [01:20:02] THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. SHOULD THE CITY COUNCIL DESIRE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS PRESENTED BY THE AFFECTED LANDOWNERS, IT MAY MOVE TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE WITH SOME OR ALL OF THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENTS. SUBSECTION 7.3.2, 4.8.1, B, POINT FOUR THROUGH SIX AS FOLLOWS. FOR A BUILDING OR STRUCTURE DESIGNATED FOR A MANUFACTURING LIGHT INTENSITY. MANUFACTURING MEDIUM INTENSITY. MANUFACTURING HEAVY INTENSITY OR WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION FACILITY USE AS DESIGNATED ON AN ENGINEERING SITE PLAN IN EFFECT ON MARCH 3RD, 2025 OR 5. A BUILDING OR STRUCTURE, ONE DESIGNED FOR A MANUFACTURING LIGHT INTENSITY. MANUFACTURING MEDIUM INTENSITY MANUFACTURING HEAVY INTENSITY OR WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION FACILITY USE AS DESIGNATED ON A CONCEPT PLAN OR ENGINEERING SITE PLAN, FOR WHICH WAS FOR WHICH A COMPLETE DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION HAD BEEN SUBMITTED TO AND ACCEPTED BY THE CITY, AND WAS UNDER REVIEW BY THE CITY STAFF ON MARCH 3RD, 2025, AND TWO, WHICH WAS SUBSEQUENTLY BUILT IN ACCORDANCE WITH SAID CONCEPT PLAN OR ENGINEERING SITE PLAN AS FINALLY APPROVED. SO LONG AS SUCH FINALLY APPROVED CONCEPT PLAN OR ENGINEERING SITE PLAN DESIGNATES THE BUILDING OR STRUCTURE AS DESIGNED FOR ONE OF THE ABOVE LISTED USES, OR SIX A BUILDING OR STRUCTURE WHICH IS LESS THAN 25,000FT■!S. A NEW SUBSECTION, 7.3.24. A POINT TWO AS FOLLOWS TWO. WHEN A CHANGE IS PROPOSED TO A BUILDING OR STRUCTURE DESCRIBED IN SUBSECTION 7.3.2, 4.8, ONE POINT B, POINT, 1.2, AND FOUR THROUGH SIX, THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE SUBMISSION OF A NEW ENGINEERING SITE PLAN, AS OUTLINED IN SECTION 3.4.3. THE EXCEPTION SET FORTH IN THESE SUBSECTIONS SHALL NO LONGER APPLY TO THAT BUILDING OR STRUCTURE. THE FORMER SECTION, SUBSECTION 7.3.2, 4.8.2 RAN OUT OF GAS. SHALL BECOME A NEW SUBSECTION, 7.3.2, 4.8.3. IT'S RECOMMENDED THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE ORDINANCE AS SET FORTH IN THE CAPTION ABOVE, WITH THE ADDITION OF THE SUBSECTIONS AS PRESENTED IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE COMMENTS ABOVE, WE DO HAVE MR. RICHARD LUEDKE HERE, OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR, AND HE HAS A PRESENTATION ON THE ORDINANCE. THANK YOU, MAYOR GILLMOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. I'D LIKE TO BEGIN MY PRESENTATION TONIGHT TO JUST GIVE YOU A VERY BRIEF OVERVIEW OF ZONING IN LEWISVILLE AND KIND OF HOW WE GOT TO THE SITUATION THAT WE ARE IN THIS EVENING. THE MAP BEFORE YOU IS OUR CURRENT ZONING MAP, AND THE BLUE AREAS INDICATE OUR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICTS. SO YOU CAN SEE TODAY ABOUT A THIRD OF THE DEVELOPABLE LAND IN THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE HAS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING. AND THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IS ONE CLASSIFICATION WITHIN OUR COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS THAT ARE CUMULATIVE. AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THAT THE LESSER INTENSITY ZONING DISTRICTS AND THEIR USES ARE ALSO ALLOWED. AND I DO HAVE A GRAPHIC ON THE NEXT ONE. AS YOU GO UP THE HIERARCHY ON THIS INVERTED TRIANGLE, THE USES CARRY. SO THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT ALSO ALLOWS ALL OF THE PERMITTED USES IN GENERAL BUSINESS, LOCAL COMMERCIAL OFFICE DISTRICT AND MEDICAL DISTRICT. HISTORICALLY, FOR MANY YEARS UNTIL ABOUT 22, THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT ALSO INCLUDED ALL OF THOSE, BUT WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE UDC, THERE WAS SOME ADJUSTMENTS MADE TO LIMIT SOME OF THAT. THE NATURE OF OUR ZONING CATEGORIES BEING CUMULATIVE. BUT I WILL GO BACK TO THIS MAP HERE. WHEN THIS ZONING, OUR CURRENT ZONING CATEGORIES WERE ADOPTED IN THE VERY EARLY 1970S. YOU GOTTA KEEP IN MIND THAT'S WHEN LEWISVILLE WAS JUST STARTING TO GROW. MOST OF THE DEVELOPMENT ON THE GROUND WAS JUST IN THE OLD TOWN AREA. SO AT THAT TIME, THIS MAP LOOKED VERY DIFFERENTLY. THERE WAS MORE THAN TWO THIRDS OF THE CITY WAS ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. THAT WAS A STRATEGY BY THE LEADERSHIP IN THOSE DAYS TO REALLY BE AGGRESSIVE IN THE PURSUIT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT. THEY THEY KNEW THAT MEANT JOBS AND TAX BASE, AND THEY REALLY WANTED TO LET THE MARKET DICTATE KIND OF WHERE DIFFERENT LAND USES WOULD GET SITUATED IN THE CITY. AS THE CITY CONTINUED TO GROW, MOST OF THE WEST SIDE OF THE CITY WEST OF I-35E WAS ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. AND JUST FOR REFERENCE, THIS MAP THE AREAS THAT ARE YELLOW AND BROWN ARE OUR RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS. THE REDS AND ORANGES ARE LOCAL, COMMERCIAL AND GENERAL BUSINESS. THE DARK GRAYS ARE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. WE HAVE VERY FEW PROPERTIES THAT ARE ZONED HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. AND THEN THE LIGHTER GRAYS INDICATE SOME OF THE SPECIAL USES, LIKE LIKE OUR LANDFILLS. SO LIKE I SAID, IN THE EARLY 70S THIS MAP LOOKED QUITE DIFFERENT. AND SO AS THE MARKET DEMANDS IN THE 70S, 80 AND 90 WAS FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. SO YOU SAW A LOT OF PROPERTIES BE REQUESTED TO BE [01:25:02] DOWN ZONED TO RESIDENTIAL. AND THAT IS WHY A LARGE MAJORITY OF THE WEST SIDE OF LEWISVILLE WAS REZONED AND ULTIMATELY DEVELOPED TO RESIDENTIAL USES. AND AGAIN, THIS IS THE HIERARCHY, AS I WAS SHOWING OF THAT THAT EPITOMIZES WHAT CUMULATIVE ZONING IS. I DO HAVE JUST TO GO BACK ONE MORE POINT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE ABOUT HALF OF THE AREAS THAT ARE CURRENTLY BLUE THAT ARE ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DO NOT HAVE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES ON THE GROUND. THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THOSE LOWER INTENSITY USES LIKE OFFICE, RETAIL, RESTAURANT, HOTEL AND SERVICE USES. SO ABOUT HALF OF THOSE AREAS CONTAIN THOSE LESSER INTENSE USES. SO MOVING FORWARD, DO WE DO HAVE SOME EXAMPLES WHERE WE HAVE SOME CONFLICTS WITH THE MORE INTENSITY TYPE USES WITH THE LOWER INTENSITY OR AREAS LIKE THIS EXAMPLE IS THE AREA IN OUR SOUTHERN GATEWAY OF THE CITY, NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF I-35E AND STATE HIGHWAY 121. YOU CAN SEE THE MALL IS SITUATED NEAR THE CENTER OF THAT MAP AND IT IS RED. THE DEVELOPERS OF THE MALL DID DOWNZONE THAT PROPERTY TO GENERAL BUSINESS WHEN IT WAS BUILT, BUT PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING AROUND IT, WHICH IS KIND OF SUPPORTING DEVELOPMENT OF THE MALL THAT DEVELOPED OVER THE LAST 20 TO 30 YEARS. AND IT CONTAINS THOSE THOSE LESS LOWER INTENSITY USES. AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, THE OFFICE, RETAIL, RESTAURANT AND SERVICE USES. AND THERE'S JUST AN EXAMPLE OF THE SHOPPING CENTER THAT CONTAINS THE HOBBY LOBBY AND THE TOTAL WINE. THIS NEXT EXAMPLE IS AN AREA KIND OF NORTHWEST OF OUR OLD TOWN ALONG I-35. E AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT HAS A VERY SOLID SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE WEST. THAT'S WEST OF SUMMIT, THE ARTERY ON THE SOUTH SIDE IS VALLEY RIDGE. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S TWO DEVELOPMENTS FRONTING VALLEY RIDGE THERE THAT IS LOWE'S AND KOHL'S. THOSE ARE RETAIL USES. BUT RIGHT BEHIND THOSE IS THE NORMAN MANUFACTURING FACILITY. AND OF COURSE THAT WAS ALLOWED BY RIGHT BECAUSE OF THE ZONING. BUT AGAIN JUST TO THE NORTH OF THAT YOU HAVE THE KILO HIGH SCHOOL NINTH GRADE CENTER. SO YOU'VE GOT A REALLY INTERESTING MIX OF USES HERE WITH A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL USES AND A LOT OF A LOT OF POTENTIAL PEDESTRIANS AND RESIDENTIAL TRAFFIC MIXING IN WITH THIS INDUSTRIAL TRAFFIC. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF AN AREA ALONG BUSINESS 121 AND SOUTHWEST PARKWAY THAT HAS THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING, BUT NO INDUSTRIAL USES. THIS IS ALL SERVICE AND RETAIL USES IN THIS AREA, AND REALITY SHOULD REFLECT MORE OF A GENERAL BUSINESS TYPE ZONING AS IT IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF BUSINESS. 121 HERE'S ANOTHER CONCERNING AREA. THIS IS IN SOUTHERN LEWISVILLE, SOUTH OF ROUND GROVE ROAD, WHERE YOU HAVE AN ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD, SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEN IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT YOU HAVE A DISTRIBUTION WAREHOUSE, CITY STAFF. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MAP ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, JUST FOR REFERENCE, IN THE UPPER LEFT CORNER IS THE SUPER WALMART, WHICH IS RETAIL. UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER IS A DISTRIBUTION WAREHOUSE IN THIS PHOTO. AND YOU SEE THE GRAY AREA IS THE IS THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THEN THE MARY KAY MANUFACTURING FACILITY IS LOCATED ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE. AND SINCE MARY KAY AND THE DISTRIBUTION WAREHOUSE WAS WAS DEVELOPED, STAFF HAS SPENT COUNTLESS HOURS, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH RESIDENTS, FIELDING COMPLAINTS, WORKING WITH THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND TRYING TO COME TO SOME WORKABLE SOLUTIONS. BUT AGAIN, THAT IS AN ONGOING THING BECAUSE OF THE INCOMPATIBILITY OF THOSE TWO USES. I BELIEVE THIS IS OUR FINAL EXAMPLE. THIS IS IN NORTHWESTERN LEWISVILLE ALONG GARDEN RIDGE BOULEVARD. THIS IS THE MCLEAN TRUCKING, WHICH IS A FOOD SERVICE DISTRIBUTION FACILITY. IT WAS BUILT BACK, I BELIEVE, IN THE EITHER LATE 70S OR EARLY 80S WHEN THERE WAS REALLY NO OTHER DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA. EVERYTHING IN THAT AREA WAS ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WHEN THEY DEVELOPED, BUT THEN THE NEIGHBORHOODS REALLY SPRANG UP AROUND THEM AND WERE DOWN ZONED. AND NOW WE HAVE ONGOING COMPLAINTS WITH NOISE, WITH TRUCK TRAFFIC AND WITH JUST, YOU KNOW, THE FUMES FROM THE TRUCKS. IT'S AN ONGOING PROBLEM WITH WITH THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA WITH, WITH THE WAY THAT THAT THAT FACILITY OPERATES. AND YOU CAN SEE FROM THE AERIAL PHOTO THAT THEY HAVE A VERY HIGH VOLUME OF TRUCK TRAFFIC RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THE PROBLEM THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED IS THE FACT THAT WE HAVE LARGE AREAS OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING THAT ARE NOW ADJACENT TO EITHER SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS OR ESTABLISHED COMMERCIAL AREAS THAT WERE DESIGNED, [01:30:04] INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WAS DESIGNED FOR RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES. THE HIGH DEMAND FOR DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT OF FOR WAREHOUSE, DISTRIBUTION AND MANUFACTURING USES THREATENS THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THESE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS AND THESE EXISTING BUSINESSES. SO WHY IS THIS A PROBLEM NOW? IT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN GROWING, BUT IN 2024, WE REALLY REACHED A CRITICAL POINT OF OUR DEVELOPMENT HERE IN LOUISVILLE. LEWISVILLE HAS PRETTY MUCH ENTERED BUILD OUT SOME OF THE VERY LAST LARGE VACANT PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT WOULD ALLOW DEVELOPMENT OF MANUFACTURING AND WAREHOUSE TYPE OF USES. ALSO, OF COURSE, EVERYONE REMEMBERS COVID. ECONOMIC TRENDS AFTER COVID HAVE CONTINUED TO WEAKEN RETAIL AND OFFICE DEVELOPMENTS, WHILE REALLY INCREASING THE DEMAND IN NEED FOR INDUSTRIAL TYPE USES. AND WITH THAT DEMAND COMES, YOU KNOW, A DEMAND FOR HIGHER LAND PRICES. SO THIS REALLY CREATED AN INVERT TO THAT TRADITIONAL ECONOMIC MODEL THAT THAT OUR CUMULATIVE ZONING WAS BASED ON. THE ECONOMICS TODAY SUPPORT REDEVELOPMENT OF THAT EXISTING RETAIL AND OFFICE SITES FOR WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION AND MANUFACTURING. SO THE GOAL OF THESE AMENDMENTS ARE REALLY TO ENSURE THAT NEW OR EXPANDED WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION FACILITIES AND MANUFACTURING FACILITIES ARE COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES, AND THAT THERE IS ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT ALL OF THEM. SO THE SOLUTION LIES LIES WITHIN THE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. THE FIRST IS THAT ALL NEW DEVELOPMENTS CONTAINING WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION AND MANUFACTURING SHOULD NOT BE WITHIN 500FT OF THOSE LESSER INTENSITY USES. AND IF THEY ARE, AND IN MANY CASES THEY WILL BE, THEN A SPECIAL USE PERMIT CAN BE CAN BE REQUESTED. AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SPECIAL USE PERMITS. THAT IS A ZONING PROCESS WHERE WE LOOK AT EACH SITE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING ENVIRONMENT, AND FIRST DETERMINE IF THERE ARE ANY NEGATIVE IMPACTS THAT ARE POTENTIAL. AND ARE THERE SOME SOLUTIONS THAT MIGHT LESSEN THOSE SO THAT THERE IS A GREATER DEGREE OF COMPATIBILITY? THIS IS A PROCESS THAT WE HAVE HAD IN PLACE NOW FOR ABOUT 12, 12 YEARS NOW IN LEWISVILLE. AND THE CITY HAS LITERALLY APPROVED WELL OVER 100 DIFFERENT SPECIAL USE PERMITS FOR A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT USES. WE'VE BEEN VERY, VERY SUCCESSFUL IN THIS CITY. STAFF WORKS HAND IN HAND WITH WITH DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY TO REALLY COME UP WITH SOME REALLY INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS SO THAT THERE IS COMPATIBILITY AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHEN THESE DEVELOPMENTS DO OCCUR, THE SGP PROCESS, AS I MENTIONED, CAN BE USED TO REVIEW EACH SITE FOR COMPATIBILITY AND FOR INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS. IT CAN ALSO BE USED TO INCORPORATE POTENTIAL MITIGATION MEASURES TO AGAIN REDUCE THOSE NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. SO AS FAR AS OUR PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS, THIS ITEM WAS DISCUSSED BY THE PUBLIC BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TWICE, AND THEY DID RECEIVE PUBLIC INPUT. THE FIRST WAS A PUBLIC HEARING ON JANUARY THE 7TH. AT THAT MEETING, THE PARTICIPANTS AT THE PUBLIC HEARING RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FILLING THEIR SPACES WITH TENANTS AND THE POTENTIAL OF HAVING TO GET NEW EACH TIME. THEY HAVE CHANGES OF TENANTS, AND THAT THE LENGTH OF THAT PROCESS. THE DID CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TABLED THE ITEM TO GIVE STAFF A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO DRAFT SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE. SO ON THE 21ST, WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE THAT HAD REVISED LANGUAGE THAT PROVIDED EXCEPTIONS FOR BUILDINGS WITH MANUFACTURING OR WAREHOUSE USES. AS OF MARCH 3RD, 2025, AS SHOWN BY A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY OR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR THOSE USES. SO IT'S BASICALLY PROVIDING AN EXEMPTION IN THOSE TWO SITUATIONS. THERE'S ALSO PROVISIONS THAT IF THERE IS REALLY NO CO ON RECORD, AND THAT DOES OCCUR IN QUITE A FEW BUSINESSES HERE IN LEWISVILLE, THE PLANNING DIRECTOR CAN USE OTHER MEANS TO DETERMINE THE ACTUAL USE AS OF MARCH 3RD, 2025. AND SO WITH THOSE EXEMPTIONS, THOSE BUILDINGS THEN WOULD BE EXEMPTED FROM THE 500 FOOT SETBACK SO THAT THEY COULD SWITCH OUT USES MOVING FORWARD. BUT ONE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE THERE WAS THE FACT THAT THEN THEY WOULD STILL BE ALLOWED TO EXPAND IF THEY CHOOSE TO. SO SINCE THAT TIME, WE'VE HAD ADDITIONAL CONCERNS RELATED TO STAFF FROM STAKEHOLDERS ABOUT THEIR IMPACTED PROPERTIES. AGAIN, THE ISSUE OF RETAINING BUILDINGS THAT MIGHT BE DESIGNED FOR WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION OR MANUFACTURING, BUT THEY MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT PERMITTED USE IN A SPACE FOR A SHORT TIME. IT'S VERY ALSO VERY COMMON. OFTEN [01:35:01] WE'LL GET LIKE A SERVICE USE LIKE A PLUMBING COMPANY OR AN ELECTRICAL SUPPLY COMPANY. THEY MAY OCCUPY OCCUPY SPACE THAT WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED FOR MANUFACTURING OR WAREHOUSING. SO THAT COULD CREATE SOME PROBLEMS DOWN THE ROAD WHEN THEY WANT TO GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL INTENT. INTENDED USES OF THE PROPERTY. WE ALSO HAVE PROBABLY ABOUT 10 OR 12 PROJECTS THAT ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION THAT HAVE BEEN THAT HAVE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS AND WERE ORIGINALLY DESIGNED FOR MANUFACTURING OR WAREHOUSE. AND THE PROBLEM THERE IS THAT THOSE PROJECTS WILL NOT BE COMPLETED AND WILL NOT HAVE A CEO BY MARCH 3RD, 2025. SO THEY WOULD BE LEGALLY CONFORMING ONCE THEY ARE COMPLETE. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER CONCERN IS A VERY LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT WE HAVE, PARTICULARLY SURROUNDING OUR OLD TOWN AREA. AND THOSE ARE SMALL SCALE BUILDINGS THAT SUPPORT LOCAL MOM AND POP BUSINESSES AND SMALL ENTREPRENEURIAL, ENTREPRENEURSHIP TYPE BUSINESSES. THEY ARE MUCH SMALLER IN SCALE AND DON'T REALLY HAVE THOSE IMPACTS THAT THE LARGE 100,000, 200,000, 500,000, 1,000,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDINGS HAVE, THEY DON'T HAVE THE TRUCK TRAFFIC OR THE IMPACTS THAT THOSE LARGER STRUCTURES DO. SO WITH THAT, STAFF IS PROPOSING THREE ADDITIONAL EXEMPTIONS. AND THE FIRST ONE WOULD ALSO ADD IN ADDITION TO THE CO, IT WOULD ADD AN EXEMPTION FOR A BUILDING THAT BASICALLY HAS A ENGINEERING SITE PLAN ON FILE AND CURRENT AS OF MARCH 3RD, 2025. AND THAT IS A VERY GOOD MEASURE BECAUSE STAFF HAS HAS ENGINEERING SITE PLANS ON FILE GOING BACK TO ABOUT THE LATE 80S. FOR MOST OF THE DEVELOPMENT SINCE THE LATE 80S, WE HAVE ENGINEERING SITE PLANS ON FILE, AND THOSE ARE READILY AVAILABLE TO DETERMINE THE USES. THE NEXT ONE ADDRESSES PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. SO IF THEY HAVE BEEN IN THE PROCESS AND SUBSEQUENTLY COMPLETE THEIR PROJECT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THEIR THEIR FINALLY APPROVED ENGINEERING SITE PLAN, THEN THEY WOULD ALSO BE EXEMPT FROM THE 500 FOOT RULE THAT THE FINAL EXEMPTION WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD IS FOR THE SMALL SCALE BUILDINGS. SO THOSE ARE BUILDINGS THAT ARE LESS THAN 25,000FT■!S. SO WE DO HAVE A THE IMAGES HERE ON THIS SLIDE. JUST TO GIVE YOU A REFERENCE ON BUILDING SIZE. THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT IS FROM THE KIND OF THE BUSINESS AREA ON NORTH COWAN, JUST IN OUR OLD TOWN NORTH AREA. THE BUILDING HIGHLIGHTED HAS 19,000 AND 338FT■!S. SO IT'S A IT'S A SMALLER BUILDING. IT WOULD MEET THAT EXEMPTION FOR THE 25,000FT■!S. AND UNDER THE MIDDLE IMAGE IS ALSO THE SAME IMAGE ON THE RIGHT HAND. BUT THE RIGHT HAND IS JUST A BLOWN UP TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE PERSPECTIVE. BUT THE IN THE MIDDLE IMAGE, THE SMALLER BUILDING IS HIGHLIGHTED. IT CONTAINS A LITTLE LITTLE OVER 20,000FT■!S AND YOU CAN SEE IT.T HAS A VERY SMALL AREA FOR TRUCK LOADING AND UNLOADING AT THE REAR. COMPARED TO THE BUILDING THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED NEXT DOOR IN THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT, WHICH CONTAINS 41,000FT■!S. AND YOU CN SEE IT HAS MULTIPLE TRUCK DOCKS IN THE BACK. SO WITH THE SIZE OF GROWS EXPONENTIALLY, IS THE IMPACT. AND AGAIN, RICHARD, CAN I JUST CLARIFY I CAN GO BACK TO THE LAST SLIDE. SO ON THAT LAST PICTURE. SO ALTHOUGH THAT DOES NOT MEET THAT EXCEPTION FOR THE SIZE THAT BUILDING IS, A MORE RECENTLY BUILT BUILDING WOULD HAVE AN ENGINEERING SITE PLAN. I WOULD ASSUME THAT IS CORRECT UNDER ANOTHER EXCEPTION. SO THIS ISN'T SAYING THAT AN SUV WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THIS ONE. IT'S JUST SHOWING YOU THE SIZE. THAT IS CORRECT. WE'RE ALMOST KIND OF PROVIDING SEVERAL DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO POTENTIALLY ACHIEVE THOSE EXEMPTIONS. AND AGAIN, JUST TO KIND OF GO REALLY QUICKLY THROUGH THESE SIX IMAGES, JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A COMPARISON ON SIZE, WE HAVE UP IN THE UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER, THE RECENTLY COMPLETED BUILDING AT THE CORNER OF EDMONDS LANE AND BUSINESS 121. THAT BUILDING CONTAINS 48,000FT■!S. THE TOP MIDDLE IS ON BUSINESS 121 EAST OF THE ELM FORK OF THE TRINITY RIVER, BUT WEST OF HUFFINES, AND IT HAS 26,000FT■!S. THE UPPER RIGHT HAS 23,000FT■!S, AND THATS LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF HUFFINES BOULEVARD IN RIVERVIEW DRIVE AND OUR RIVERVIEW INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. THE LOWER LEFT CONTAINS 27,000 OR ALMOST 28,000FT■!S, AND THISS ON NORTH MILL, JUST NORTH OF THE RODEO GROUNDS. AND THEN THE BOTTOM ROW ON THE MIDDLE IS IN OUR MCKINSEY HENRY NEIGHBORHOOD, JUST TO THE SOUTHEAST OF THE OLD TOWN. AND THAT BUILDING CONTAINS 16,000FT■!S. AND THEN FINALLY, E BOTTOM RIGHT CONTAINS 20,000FT■. AND THAT IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF BUSINESS 121 BETWEEN EAST MAIN AND VALLEY RIDGE PARKWAY, OR VALLEY RIDGE [01:40:05] BOULEVARD. SO THE FINAL CONCERN, THOUGH, WITH THESE EXPANDED EXEMPTIONS IS EXPANSIONS. A MANY EXISTING AND UNDER CONSTRUCTION BUILDINGS ARE DESIGNED FOR THESE USES WOULD BE EXEMPT, SO THAT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE THE ABILITY TO EXPAND. SO WE'RE DISTRIBUTION MANUFACTURING USES COULD COME AND GO WITH A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY UNDER THOSE GRANTED EXEMPTIONS. BUT THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO EXPAND. AND THEREFORE WE'RE KIND OF GOING BACK TO THE CONCERNS OF THE INCOMPATIBLE INCOMPATIBILITY OF USES WITH ADDITIONAL EXEMPTIONS. STAFF RECOMMENDS ADDING THAT ANY EXPANSION OF EXISTING STRUCTURES THAT THAT TRIGGERS THE SUBMISSION OF A NEW ENGINEERING SITE PLAN BE SUBJECT TO THE 500 FOOT DISTANCE REQUIREMENT FROM LESS INTENSE USES. SO WHAT THIS WOULD DO? THIS WOULD ALLOW REVIEW OF EXPANSIONS AND NEW DEVELOPMENT FOR APPROPRIATENESS AND FOR INFRASTRUCTURE SUPPORT THROUGH THE SUP PROCESS. AND AGAIN, THAT SUP PROCESS CAN BE CAN BE BUILT INTO THE DEVELOPMENT AND ENGINEERING TIME FRAMES. THEREFORE ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE TIMING THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO GET AN SUP THE THIS THE SUP PROCESS COULD GO CONCURRENTLY WITH THE ENGINEERING SITE PLAN PROCESS, THEREFORE NOT REALLY ADDING ANY ADDITIONAL TIME. AND WE HAVE DONE THAT IN MANY INSTANCES IN THE PAST WITH DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST AN OVERVIEW OF THE WORDING FOR THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST EXEMPTION RELATING TO ENGINEERING SITE PLANS AND THEN MOVING FORWARD. THE OUR NOTICE I DID WANT TO BRIEFLY TOUCH ON THE NOTICES THAT WE WERE REQUIRED. WE HAD TWO ROUNDS OF POSTCARDS THAT WENT OUT TO OVER 2400 PROPERTY OWNERS AND REAL BUSINESS OWNERS, AND THOSE ARE FOLKS THAT HAVE PROPERTY OR BUSINESSES IN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AND WAREHOUSE DISTRICTS. WE ALSO HAD PROBABLY AROUND 10 OR 12 THAT HAD THESE USES, BUT THEY WERE NOT IN THOSE THOSE DISTRICTS. SO THOSE ARE REQUIRED BY STATE LAW TO PROVIDE THOSE POSTCARDS WITH THAT VERY ALARMING AND OMINOUS LANGUAGE ON THERE. BUT IT DID WORK, AND IT DID GET THE ATTENTION OF A OF A LOT OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS. LIKE I SAID EARLIER, TWO MEETINGS WERE HELD WHERE WE RECEIVED A REALLY GOOD AMOUNT OF INPUT. THE PUBLISHERS WERE ALSO NOTICES WERE PUBLISHED IN OUR IN THE NEWSPAPER PRIOR TO EACH OF OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS, AS REQUIRED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS AND BY OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES AND PLANNING. STAFF RECEIVED WELL OVER 200 INQUIRIES FROM VARIOUS PROPERTY OWNERS AND BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE FORM OF WALK INS, TELEPHONE CALLS AND EMAILS. SO PLANNING STAFF HAS BEEN EXTREMELY BUSY OVER THIS LAST MONTH, HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH BUSINESS OWNERS. I ALSO WANTED TO POINT OUT AS FAR AS THE NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS WITH THE POSTCARD, THE BLUE, THE BLUE PROPERTIES OUTLINED ON THE MAP INDICATE THE PROPERTIES THAT RECEIVED THE POSTCARD. THE 2400 PROPERTIES WE RECEIVED APPROXIMATELY. THE OR. ACTUALLY IT'S THE PROPERTIES IN RED. IT WAS ABOUT 49 PROPERTIES THAT WE RECEIVED WRITTEN OPPOSITION FROM. SO THAT REPRESENTS 6.99% OF THE TOTAL NOTIFICATION AREA. AND THEN THE 49 PROPERTY OWNERS JUST NUMERICALLY REPRESENTS 2% OF THE TOTAL NUMERIC NUMBER OF PROPERTY OWNERS. WELL, UNDER THE STATE LAW REQUIREMENT OF THE 20% RULE, IF WE RECEIVED MORE THAN 20% OF OPPOSITION IN EITHER OF THOSE CATEGORIES, THAT WOULD HAVE REQUIRED. A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE APPROVING THE AMENDMENTS OR THREE QUARTERS VOTE WOULD HAVE SENT THAT STUFF OUT IN PROPER STATIONERY IF YOU WOULD HAVE GOT MORE INPUT. SO YOU KNOW WHAT? LET ME LET ME SAY THAT TO THE PROCESS YOU WERE GOING TO EAT IN YOUR TIME. YOU'LL GET IT. AND THIS FINAL SLIDE AGAIN IS JUST A RECAP OF WHAT? OF WHAT THE MAYOR READ IN THE CAPTION. AND SO THIS IS THIS IS THE ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE THAT STAFF HAS IS RECOMMENDING THAT THREE ADDITIONAL EXEMPTIONS. AND THEN THE, THE STATEMENT THAT CLARIFIES THAT ANY ANYTHING ANY CHANGE ON A PROPERTY THAT TRIGGERS A NEW ENGINEERING SITE PLAN WOULD REQUIRE THE 500 FOOT SETBACK TO THE LESSER INTENSE USES, WHICH MAY KICK IN THE REQUIREMENT OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. SO WITH THAT, I WOULD BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. I HAVE [01:45:05] ONE, RICHARD. SO I KNOW THERE WAS AN ISSUE. CAN YOU HEAR ME? IS THIS WORKING? I KNOW THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH THE LEGALLY NONCONFORMING STATUS. IF SOMEBODY MEETS IF WE APPROVE AN EXEMPTION AND YOU MEET THAT EXEMPTION, DOES THAT MAKE YOU LEGALLY OR CONFORMING? LEGALLY CONFORMING? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. RICHARD, I HAVE A FEW THINGS AS WELL HERE. SO FIRST OFF YOU DID A GREAT THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. THAT'S FANTASTIC. I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS HAVE WORKED REALLY, REALLY HARD TO TRY TO MAKE THIS FAIR AND EQUITABLE. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. YOU MENTIONED THIS WAS DONE IN THE EARLY 70S WHEN WE HAD ALL THE ZONING WAS SET UP TO BE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. I THINK IMPORTANT TO GIVE CONTEXT WAS GOING ON IN THE EARLY 70S. THERE WAS THE OPEC EMBARGO, THERE'S STAGFLATION, THERE WAS HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT. SO THAT ALL THAT STUFF IS GOING TO IS GOING TO SET A CONTEXT FOR WHY I THINK THERE IS THAT SORT OF DEVELOPMENT ENCOURAGED AT THAT POINT IN TIME. YOU ALSO MENTIONED THAT IT USED TO BE MUCH MORE. SO WE SEE WE HAVE A HISTORY OF GOING THROUGH AND RIGHT SIZING THIS ACROSS TIME. RIGHT. SO WE HAVE HISTORY FOR THIS. SO I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU. ONE OF THE EMAILS THAT WE GOT IT ASKED ABOUT THE COS THERE WASN'T A STANDARD. THEY DON'T ALL SAY WAREHOUSE AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. SO IT REQUIRES A REVIEW OF A OF A IMPARTIAL PERSON TO GO LOOK AT THAT AND SAY, YEAH THAT LOOKS LIKE A WAREHOUSE. IS THAT RIGHT. YES. WE'VE BEEN THERE WAS A FAIRLY LONG PERIOD WHERE CEOS WERE NOT ISSUED. WE WERE REALLY USING A DIFFERENT TYPE OF SYSTEM THAN ABOUT 2019. WE INSTITUTED THAT PROCESS AND FOR A GOOD WHILE, THE ACTUAL BUILDING CODE USE WAS LISTED. AND ABOUT A YEAR AGO WE STARTED LISTING THE ACTUAL ZONING USE. SO THAT IS NOT IMPOSSIBLE. BUT WE CAN LOOK AT EACH ONE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO DETERMINE WHAT THE USE IS TO RECONCILE THOSE BACK TO A NORMAL AND NORMAL USAGE CONTEXT. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. AND THEN SO WE MENTIONED THAT THE MAYBE I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THIS, BUT THE 25,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDINGS, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT PREVENTS SOMEBODY FROM PUTTING UP FOUR OF THOSE IN ONE AREA. SO I TYPICALLY A SITE PLAN IF YOU MAY, IS IT'S REALLY BASED UPON A PLATTED LOT. YOU MIGHT HAVE MULTIPLE BUILDINGS, BUT USUALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT CUMULATIVE CUMULATIVELY OF MULTIPLE BUILDINGS ON A GIVEN LOT, OKAY. SO WE THINK THERE'S WAYS TO PREVENT ABUSE OF THAT PARTICULAR CARVE OUT. CORRECT. FANTASTIC. OKAY. AND THEN SEE. I THINK I THINK IT'S EVERYTHING I HAVE FOR YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT I AM GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. I'M GOING TO READ ALL OF OUR COMMENTS. AND THEN THE FOLKS WHO SIGNED OUT CARDS OR FILLED OUT CARDS, BUT INDICATED THAT THEY DID NOT WANT TO SPEAK. I WILL READ THOSE INTO THE RECORD AS WELL, AND THEN WE WILL GET STARTED WITH THOSE WHO CHOSE TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE, EITHER FOR OR AGAINST. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE AND YOUR TIME, AND WE'LL MOVE THROUGH THIS PROCESS. I DO HAVE A COMMENT FROM CONNOR HAMLIN, OWNER OF TWO BUILDINGS IN LEWISVILLE. HE OPPOSED THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE UDC. AT A MINIMUM, HE'D LIKE TO HAVE MORE TIME. HAVING A COMMENT FROM NANA ASKING ABOUT THE GRANDFATHERING PROVISION. DOES IT RUN WITH THE LAND OR THE LANDOWNER? RICHARD, DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT TO THAT? IF THE GRANDFATHERING PROVISION RUNS WITH THE LAND OR THE LAND OWNER, THE EXEMPTIONS TYPICALLY WOULD RUN WITH THE LAND. YEAH. THANK YOU. I HAVE A COMMENT FROM GLENN WATSON. STATING THAT HE'S GOT SOME SMALL MULTI TENANT AND THAT THOSE USES SHOULD BE INTERCHANGEABLE UNLESS GOING TO A HEAVIER USE. SO THOSE ARE THE COMMENTS THERE. AND THEN I HAVE. C-H REALTY HAS SUBMITTED IN OPPOSITION TO THE ORDINANCE AND GIVEN SOME RED LINES AND CHANGES THERE. SO APPRECIATE THE INPUT THERE. I HAVE OPPOSITION FROM BOX INVESTMENT GROUP WITH THEIR RESPONSES TO THE DOCUMENTS. I HAVE OPPOSITION FROM MUNCH HEART. MISS ANGELA HUNT, THANK YOU FOR REACHING OUT TO COUNCIL AND GIVING YOUR FEEDBACK AS WELL. I HAVE. A COMMENT FROM THE BILLINGSLEY'S LUCY AND GEORGE BILLINGSLEY AND THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT THE SUPS AS WELL. I HAVE A LETTER FROM TRAILER INVESTMENT JONES STREET LLC IN OPPOSITION TO THE ORDINANCE. I HAVE A [01:50:05] OPPOSITION FROM LEATHERWOOD PLASTICS AND THEIR OPPOSITION TO THE ORDINANCE. AND OF COURSE, THESE ARE ALL ON FILE WITH THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE. ALL. I HAVE AN OPPOSITION LETTER FROM THE VOSBERG FAMILY PROPERTIES. I HAVE AN OPPOSITION FROM VISTA RIDGE PROPERTY LLC. I HAVE AN OPPOSITION FROM PRIME DEVELOPMENT CAPITAL. AND I HAVE OPPOSITION FROM KENT REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT COMPANY. I HAVE AN EMAIL FROM MICHELLE SICKLES, WHO IS IN SUPPORT OF THE ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS. I HAVE AN EMAIL FROM EAST GROUP PROPERTIES IN OPPOSITION. AND THEN THE FOLLOWING FOLKS ARE CAME HERE TONIGHT AND FILLED OUT CARDS STATING THAT THEY WISH TO VOICE THEIR OPINION ON THIS, BUT DID NOT WISH TO SPEAK. THEY. I HAVE MICHAEL MAHONEY, WHO IS IN OPPOSITION. I HAVE THERESA RATHER. I'M SORRY, MICHAEL MAHONEY FROM BARNETT LANE IN LEWISVILLE. IN OPPOSITION. I HAVE THERESA RATHER FROM WOODROW WOODLAND BOULEVARD AND FLOWER MOUND IN OPPOSITION. I HAVE BRIAN GRAMMONT, CENTURION COURT, DALLAS, TEXAS, IN OPPOSITION, I HAVE BOB GRAMMONT, FLOWER MOUND IN OPPOSITION. I HAVE MANNY JACOBS, MILL STREET, LEWISVILLE, IN OPPOSITION, I HAVE ANDREW BOWMAN, CHASE DRIVE, FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS OPPOSITION CHARLES H. BUSH, FARMERS BRANCH LANE AND FARMERS BRANCH IN OPPOSITION. RAMA KADIYALA AND MY APOLOGIES ON THE ON THE NAME PEACEMAKER DRIVE. FRISCO, TEXAS. OPPOSITIO. JOSH ALLEN, CORNELL WAY FRISCO. OPPOSITION. DANIEL BOX, HARWOOD LANE, DALLAS, TEXAS. OPPOSITION. ED KEPNER, JANE. HAVEN LAKES. CLEBURNE. OPPOSITION. I HAVE TOM MARSH, MARCHIORI, SANTA MARIA LANE, DALLAS, TEXAS, IN OPPOSITION. I HAVE TOM TORCELLINI RAILROAD STREET IN LEWISVILLE AND OPPOSITION PAUL BASOLO LEWISVILLE, A RAILROAD STREET, ALSO IN OPPOSITION. AND I HAVE DIXON RICH, WHO WAS HERE ORIGINALLY TO SPEAK BUT RAN OUT OF TIME. SO REPRESENTING HIS OPPOSITION AS WELL. I ALSO HAVE MISS PATTY GUZIK OFFICE, PARK CIRCLE IN LEWISVILLE, WHO IS IN OPPOSITION. I NOW WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE INTO. THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU GO AHEAD AND KEEP CONVERSATIONAL. WE'RE ALL TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT AS YOU COULD HEAR, SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT AND FEEDBACK. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE IT. SO FIRST UP ON THE LIST TONIGHT. AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO KEEP MOVING THROUGH THIS IN THE INTEREST OF TIME Y'ALL. IF YOU WANT YOU CAN TAKE ALL YOUR TIME. YOU CAN ALSO SAY DITTO. SO IT'S ENTIRELY UP TO YOU HOW YOU WANT TO MANAGE THE TIME TONIGHT. BUT WE WILL ASK THAT EVERYBODY STAY WITH THE STAY WITH THE CLOCK THAT WE HAVE BECAUSE WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH ALL THE SPEAKERS TONIGHT. FIRST UP TONIGHT IS MR. ROBERT ALLEN. AND IF YOU COULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, SIR. I'M ROBERT ALLEN. MY OFFICE AT 5310 HARVEST HILL ROAD, DALLAS. I'M THE REGIONAL DIRECTOR FOR FIRST INDUSTRIAL REALTY TRUST. FIRST INDUSTRIAL OWNS A INDUSTRIAL PARK CALLED FIRST PARK 121 LOCATED THERE, KIND OF NORTHEAST SIDE OF LEWISVILLE, KIND OF JUST SOUTH OF MIDWAY ROAD, KIND OF EAST OF HOLFORD'S PRAIRIE. YOU KNOW, FIRST PARK 121 IS APPROXIMATELY 117 ACRES. WE ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, THROUGH TWO ACQUISITIONS, 83 ACRES INITIALLY, THEN 34 ACRES. YOU KNOW, WE ACQUIRED THE INITIAL 83 ACRES. WE HAD TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM AGRICULTURAL, OPEN TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. AND WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS, IT WAS [01:55:01] BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT THE PROPERTY WAS ACTUALLY NOT JUST THE INITIAL 83, BUT THE OTHER 34 ACRES. IT WAS ALL ACTUALLY WHEN THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE, I THINK, WENT THROUGH KIND OF A LAND USE PLAN IN 2014 FOR LEWISVILLE 2025, THAT THE PROPERTY WAS IDENTIFIED AS SUITABLE FOR AN INDUSTRIAL PARK. SO WE WERE ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY GET THE PROPERTY REZONED. AND SINCE SINCE THE REZONING, YOU KNOW, WE'VE MADE A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN THAT PROPERTY. YOU KNOW, WE'VE DEVELOPED FIVE INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW, WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION, LIGHT MANUFACTURING BUILDINGS. YOU KNOW, WE DID IT OVER THREE PHASES FROM 2018 TO 2022, INVESTED APPROXIMATELY $80 MILLION DOLLARS. YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY ON DENTON COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT, THEY'RE APPRAISED AT, YOU KNOW, FOR 2024 AT APPROXIMATELY $100 MILLION. SO, AGAIN, A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT ON OUR PART, YOU KNOW, AND CURRENTLY, OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH IT'S MAINLY AN ENGINEERING EXERCISE, BUT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON TRYING TO ADD A SIXTH BUILDING THERE. AND THERE'S A LOT OF CHALLENGES AS FAR AS FLOODPLAIN AND CREEK CROSSINGS. AND WE'RE PROBABLY OR WE'RE PROBABLY MAYBE WE'LL SEE WHAT THE OUTCOME IS, BUT WE'RE ABOUT 30 DAYS AWAY FROM POTENTIALLY GETTING A PERMIT TO BUILD A SIX BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY AND INVEST SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF ANOTHER $15 MILLION INTO THE CITY OF LEWISVILLE. SO I WOULD SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, OVER THESE YEARS THAT I'VE WORKED ON THIS PROJECT, THE SEVEN YEARS, YOU KNOW, I GUESS I'LL, YOU KNOW, REITERATE, I MEAN, WHAT KIND OF MAYOR GILMORE SAID? I MEAN, THE STAFF HAS BEEN GREAT. I MEAN, REALLY OUR EXPERIENCE WITH THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE HAS BEEN YOU'RE REALLY SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER THAN A LOT OF OUR OTHER CITIES THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH, YOU KNOW, OVER TIME. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, STAFF IS VERY RESPONSIVE, VERY REASONABLE, AND REALLY APPRECIATED THE RELATIONSHIP, FRANKLY, MADE IT REALLY, REALLY HARD. WHEN I GOT THE NOTICE ON JANUARY THAT KIND OF DETAILED THAT THE CITY WAS STRIPPING US OF OUR RIGHTS TO, YOU KNOW, USE THOSE PROPERTIES TO LEASE THOSE BUILDINGS MOVING FORWARD FOR THEIR INTENDED USES, FOR WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION BUILDINGS AND FOR LIGHT MANUFACTURING. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY CONCERNING. YOU KNOW, I'M HERE IN OPPOSITION OF THE UDC CHANGES. BUT IF THE CITY IF COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, DECIDES THEY HAVE TO DO SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, JUST APPRECIATE CONSIDERATION OF APPROVING THE ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS THAT RICHARD IDENTIFIED TONIGHT. SO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. BRYCE HEFNER I'M SORRY. I HAVE A QUICK FOLLOW UP QUESTION FROM RICHARD. SO THE WAREHOUSES THAT ARE ALREADY ON PROPERTY, THERE'S NO STRIPPING OF RIGHTS OF THOSE, RIGHT? I MEAN, THEY'RE GRANDFATHERED IN. THAT'S CORRECT. THEY WOULD QUALIFY FOR THE EXEMPTION EITHER THE COES OR IF THE ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE IS APPROVED WITH THE ENGINEERING SITE PLANS, THEN ALL OF THE BUILDINGS THAT MR. ALLEN DESCRIBED WOULD, WOULD MEET AN EXEMPTION AND, AND WOULD BE LEGALLY CONFORMING MOVING FORWARD. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN A BIT OF A MOVING TARGET AS WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO BE RESPONSIVE. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THAT CORRECTLY. YES. YEAH. AND SORRY MY, MY IT'S KIND OF BEEN A MOVING A MOVING MOVING A MOVING TARGET. AND I THINK THERE STILL IS MAYBE A LITTLE BIT CONFUSION. SO I'M I'M NOT TRYING TO CREATE MISINFORMATION. AND RICHARD'S BEEN GREAT WORKING WORKING THROUGH THIS. ME EITHER. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. SO YEAH THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? BRYCE HEFNER. NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE, SIR. BRYCE HEFNER, 61, 25 LUTHER LANE, DALLAS, TEXAS I'M GLAD THE HEAT IS WORKING TONIGHT IN THIS ROOM. I AM HERE IN ON BEHALF OF THE MOVIE EIGHT MOVIE THEATER REDEVELOPMENT OWNERSHIP GROUP. WE ACTUALLY WERE HERE ON JANUARY 6TH TO GET OUR FINAL CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL FOR ONE DESIGN ALTERNATIVE STANDARD, WHICH WE RECEIVED. WE WALKED OUT TO HIGH FIVES TO THE POLICE OFFICERS, WHO WERE EXCITED THAT WE WERE GETTING RID OF ONE OF THE CITY'S BIG BLIGHTS. IT'S VACANT. IT WAS VACANT. MOVIE THEATER CLOSED ABOUT 4 OR 5 YEARS AGO, WELCOMED HOMELESS PEOPLE, VAGRANTS, CRIME, YOU NAME IT. IF YOU GO ON GOOGLE EARTH AND YOU DROP THE PIN, YOU'LL SEE A HOMELESS MAN HAVING A SHOWER BEHIND THE BUILDING NAKED. SO WE CAME TO THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE KNOWING THAT IT WAS PRO-BUSINESS, EASY TO WORK WITH. WE WERE EXCITED TO CLOSE ON OUR LAND THAT WAS ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. IN AUGUST OF THIS YEAR, PRECEDED WITH CITY STAFF TO GET EVERYTHING APPROVED. AND SO IT WAS TO OUR BIG DISMAY TO HEAR THAT THE NIGHT AFTER OUR APPROVAL, THERE WAS A VOTE TO STRIP OUR OUR RIGHTS FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. RIGHT NOW, THE BUILDINGS ARE CONTEMPLATED TO BE WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION OR LIGHT MANUFACTURING. WE DO NOT KNOW. BUT WITH THE CURRENT PROPOSED LANGUAGE BY PNC, THAT PROJECT NO LONGER BECOMES VIABLE FROM A LEGAL, NONCONFORMING STANDPOINT. USE STANDPOINT. AND, YOU KNOW, [02:00:05] IT PROBABLY ENDS WHERE IT IS. WE HAVE WORKED. WE HAVE STAYED COMMITTED TO OUR STATEMENT. WE HAVE ALREADY DEMOLISHED THE BUILDING. WE ARE DEMOLISHING THE PAVING. AND WE ARE WE WOULD LOVE TO PROCEED WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT MARCH 3RD. BUT WITH WHAT WAS APPROVED BY PNC, THAT IS AT RISK. AND SO I GUESS OUR PLEA IS THAT IF THE CITY IS ADAMANT ON PROCEEDING WITH WITH THE AMENDMENT TO THE UDC, THAT YOU DO ACCEPT THE PROPOSED STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS OF INSERTING THE DESIGNATION OF A ENGINEERED SITE PLAN OR CONCEPT PLAN AS BEING EXEMPT FROM THIS ZONING CHANGE. THAT WOULD HELP US A LOT. I GUESS MY ONE FINAL COMMENT WOULD BE, I FEEL THAT LOGICALLY, THERE MIGHT BE AN EASIER APPROACH TO THIS ZONING CHANGE. IF THE CITY IS CONCERNED BY FUTURE REDEVELOPMENT, THEN THERE SHOULD BE A TARGETED APPROACH AS TO LOOKING AT THE AREAS YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE LIGHT, INDUSTRIAL AND CHANGE THAT AND NOT JUST A BLANKET STATEMENT. IF IMPACTING ALL THE INDUSTRIAL OWNERS IN THE CITY WITH THAT SUIT. THANK YOU RICHARD. QUICK QUESTION. THE EXEMPTIONS THAT ARE ON THERE THAT THAT TAKES CARE OF HIS BUSINESS. CORRECT. THAT THAT ALLOWS YES. THE EXEMPTIONS AS PROPOSED WOULD WOULD COVER THIS PROJECT. SO WE'RE NOT TAKING AWAY RIGHTS OKAY. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU MR. BRING THAT ON LUCY BILLINGSLEY. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. THANK YOU. LUCY BILLINGSLEY, 1722 RUTH STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS. WE WERE ONE OF THE LETTERS THAT WAS SHOWN UP THERE. AS WITH GREAT CONCERNS. AND WE HAVE SIX BUILDINGS, 1,100,000FT■!S OF INDUSTRIAL SPACE IN THE CITY. WITH THE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE PROPOSED, WE ARE ABLE WITH THEM ACCEPTANCE TO CHANGE OUR STATUS FROM ONE OF CONCERN TO ONE OF SUPPORT. WHAT THESE AMENDMENTS DO IS THEY PRESERVE OUR ORIGINAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY. THEY PERMIT US TO OPERATE AS WE HAD ALL INTENDED, AND IMPORTANTLY, THEY PERMIT US TO WORK WITH OUR LENDERS WITH THE SAME COMMITMENTS THAT THEY HAD MADE TO US. SO IT PRESERVES THAT INTEGRITY. SO WE JUST WANTED TO THANK THE WORK OF RICHARD AND THE STAFF AND THE SENSITIVITY OF THE CITY TO THESE EXISTING ISSUES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS BILLINGSLEY. MARION SOUTHALL. MARION SOUTHALL MUST BE PRESENT TO WIN. JOHN DELVIC. MY NAME IS JOHN DELVAC. I LIVE AT 769 WINDERMERE WAY IN KELLER. THANK YOU SIR, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL AND STAFF, THANK YOU FOR THIS. THE CHANCE TONIGHT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE THIS AMENDMENT. I COME TO YOU HUMBLY TONIGHT AND TRY TO SPEAK SIMPLY AS I AM A SIMPLE PERSON. BUT I'M VERY MUCH AGAINST THIS, MOSTLY BECAUSE IT'S NOT READY. IT'S NOT FULLY COOKED. I'VE HAD MANY HOURS WITH OUR ATTORNEY, WHO IS NOT A SIMPLE PERSON AND HAS COME UP WITH ALL KINDS OF THINGS WRONG WITH IT, SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT THOSE ARE. IF THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MY HELP OR OUR COUNSEL'S HELP TO TRY TO GET THIS RIGHT, WE'D BE GLAD TO HELP YOU. EVEN THOUGH WE'RE AGAINST IT IN GENERAL. SO THE FIRST THING, EVEN THOUGH I SAID I WAS HUMBLE, MAYBE I SHOULD GIVE YOU MY CREDENTIALS. I'VE BEEN AN INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPER FOR 35 YEARS. I'VE BUILT OVER 33,000,000FT■!S OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL LIGHT MANUFACTURING SPACE. I'VE DONE MULTIPLE BUILDINGS IN THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE, INCLUDING ONE THAT WAS ON THE SCREEN THAT A LOT OF TIME WAS SPENT ON. AND EVERYONE HERE HAS DRIVEN PAST AT LEAST ONE BUILDING THAT I'VE BEEN TO, THAT I'VE DEVELOPED IN LOUISVILLE, HAVE UNDER CONTRACT AND LOOKING TO HAVE UNDER CONTRACT OR HAVE IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW. SO THE FIRST THING THAT I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO TOUCH ON IS WHO ARE THE OWNERS OF THESE INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS. SO THIS WORKS FOR A COMPANY THAT'S COMING FROM NEW JERSEY. THEY IN LOVE WITH LOUISVILLE. THEY WANT TO MOVE HERE AND BUILD THEIR INDUSTRIAL BUILDING. THEY GO TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOLKS. LOUISVILLE IS LIKE, YEAH, BRING IT ON, BRING IT ON. THE JOBS. AND YOU COME ON AND YOU GO, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS FOR YOU. WE KNOW [02:05:05] YOU HAVE A LITTLE RETAIL STORE IN THE FRONT. THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL USE OTHER THAN LEE. SO THAT'S WHAT SUPS ARE FOR. THEY'RE FOR ADDITIONAL USES BEYOND WHAT'S IN YOUR ZONING DISTRICT. SO A RETAIL STORE OR A WILL CALL CENTER IN FRONT OF AN INDUSTRIAL BUILDING IS VERY COMMON IN CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. HERE. SOME YOU'RE ALREADY ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, WHICH IS WHAT I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON. SO THAT INCLUDES OFFICE. IT INCLUDES THE EXAMPLE THAT WAS GIVEN ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO WORK OUT OF THE WAREHOUSE AND HAVE SOME THINGS GOING ON BACK THERE. BUT THESE, THESE, THESE BUILDINGS ARE NOT OWNED BY THAT MOM AND POP THAT WANTS TO MOVE IN ONE MORE BUSINESS DOWN HERE AND IS GOING TO COME BEFORE YOU GUYS AND ASK FOR APPROVAL ON THIS. SUP. THESE BUILDINGS ARE INVESTED BY, BOUGHT BY AND OWNED BY COMPANIES THAT ARE TEACHERS. RETIREMENT FUNDS WOULD BE THE SECOND LARGEST OWNERSHIP TEACHERS RETIREMENT FUNDS. WE ALL LOVE TEACHERS WHETHER WE WANT SCHOOL CHOICE OR NOT, AND IT'S A YOU'RE YOU'RE MESSING WITH THEIR RETIREMENT. THE SECOND LARGEST, THE NO. THE LARGEST OWNERSHIP IS PROBABLY INDUSTRIAL REITS. IF YOU OWN 401 OR MUTUAL FUNDS, YOU'RE A LARGE PART IN. THE MOST STABLE PART OF YOUR INVESTMENT IS AN INDUSTRIAL REITS. SO THAT'S A YOU'RE MESSING WITH YOUR OWN MONEY. THE THIRD INVESTMENT TYPE AND ALSO THE LARGEST IN THE WORLD, NOT JUST INDUSTRIAL, IS ACTUALLY. LIFE INSURANCE COMPANIES. SO THESE LIFE INSURANCE COMPANIES HAVE INVESTED IN THESE PROPERTIES TO FOR BASICALLY WIDOWS AND CHILDREN, WIDOWS AND ORPHANS. SO WE'RE MESSING WITH THEM. THIS THEIR INVESTMENT. IT'S NOT THE EVIL REAL ESTATE INVESTOR DEVELOPMENT GUY WHO'S TEARING DOWN TREES NEXT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD. LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT FOR A MINUTE. I LIVE NEXT TO MY HOME IS NEXT TO 25 BEAUTIFUL ACRES IN KELLER, RIGHT IN DOWNTOWN KELLER. YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE MAP. THERE'S A THERE'S A TIGHTER USE. THERE'S HIGHER DENSITY HOMES THAT ARE SLOTTED FOR THE LAND NEXT TO ME. I KNEW THAT WHEN I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY. THAT'S NOT THE LANDOWNERS FAULT. IF HE SELLS THAT AND THEY PUT HIGHER DENSITY HOMES THERE. I ALSO LIVED IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAD RETAIL AND OTHER USES BORDERING IT. I FOUND THAT OUT. MY REALTOR TOLD ME, WHERE IS EVERYBODY IN LOUISVILLE'S REALTOR TELLING THEM WHAT THE ZONING IS NEXT DOOR. FURTHER, THESE INDUSTRIAL IS THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THIS LIE ZONED LAND. THE ONLY OTHER ONE. AND I SEE THIS ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY, ESPECIALLY FLORIDA, IS APARTMENTS. YOU WANT MORE MULTIFAMILY IN LOUISVILLE VOTED IN STAFF IS GOING TO BE INUNDATED WITH MULTI-FAMILY REZONING REQUESTS. THAT'S THE OTHER THING THAT COMES IN. AS FOR THE ACTUAL RULES, IF YOU GIVE ME A SECOND, THE FIRST PARAGRAPH, NO PORTION OF THE PROPERTY CONTAINING MANUFACTURING, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH IS ALLOWED WITHIN 500FT. IT'S GOT SOME RULES HERE BELOW IT. ONE OF THEM IS NOT AN SUPP. THERE IS AN SUPP SECTION IN YOUR CODE, AND SUPP SECTION HAS BEEN AMENDED ON THE TABLE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. IT'S BEEN AMENDED ON THE CODE. BUT THE AMENDMENT TONIGHT DOES NOT POINT TO THE ACTUAL. THING. SO THANK YOU, SIR. IT ALWAYS REVERTS TO WHAT'S WRITTEN IS NOT A. YEAH. NEXT PRESENTER MR. DAVID HICKS. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS DAVID HICKS, 705 JOHNSVILLE COURT, ARGYLE, TEXAS. I'M WITH EAST GROUP PROPERTY. I AM THE SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT. HANDLE OUR OPERATIONS HERE IN DFW. WE ARE THE OWNERS OF CREEKVIEW. ONE 2110 BUILDING BUSINESS PARK THAT WE DEVELOPED ON A COUPLE PARCELS OF LAND, GENERALLY AT THE EIGHT BUILDINGS AT THE INTERSECTION OF AURORA LANE AND 121, AND THEN JUST ABOUT A HALF A MILE WEST OF THERE. OUR FINAL PHASE WAS AROUND THE I BELIEVE IT'S THE 2300 BLOCK OF 121. SO OUR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS THAT WE PURCHASED AND DEVELOPED IN THESE TEN BUILDINGS TOTAL ABOUT JUST UNDER 800,000FT■!S. THEY'RE LEAD TO ABOUT 18 UNIQUE TENANTS. AND [02:10:01] IN THAT WE HAVE. ABOUT OVER 500 JOBS WE'VE CREATED WITH THOSE ASSETS, ALONG WITH AN ESTIMATED $2.6 MILLION OF TAX REVENUE. SO ALONG WITH SOME OF THE OTHER OWNERSHIPS THAT HAVE COME UP, I'M OPPOSED TO THIS, BUT WITH THE CAVEAT THAT IF IT IS A MUST, THE LANGUAGE IN THE AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED, AND RICHARD WAS KIND ENOUGH TO CALL ME LAST WEEK AND WALK ME THROUGH SOME OF THOSE AS A CONCERNED PROPERTY OWNER, AND THOSE WOULD ACTUALLY SIGNIFICANTLY HELP OUR BUSINESS AND, AND EXCLUDE US FROM THOSE. SO WE ARE A PUBLIC REIT, WHICH IS ONE OF THE ASSET OWNERSHIP CLASSES THAT THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER MENTIONED. AND SO OUR OWNERSHIP SPANS ACROSS SUNBELT STATES ABOUT OVER 60,000,000FT■!S. SO WE DO THIS R A LIVING AND WE'RE LONG TERM OWNERSHIP HORIZON. WE LOVE BEING IN LEWISVILLE WHEN WE DEVELOP THESE PROPERTIES. BETWEEN THE YEARS 2017 TO, I BELIEVE, 2022, WE DID IT IN FIVE DIFFERENT PHASES OF TWO BUILDINGS. SO AS WE DEVELOPED A COUPLE BUILDINGS, WE WOULD BUILD AS THEY LEASED UP THE NEXT ONES. AND WE'RE QUITE SUCCESSFUL ON THESE INDUSTRIAL ZONED PROPERTIES. SO WE'RE JUST THINK IT WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE RELEASING OF OUR BUILDINGS IF WE HAD TO GO THROUGH AN SUP PROCESS. AND THAT'S PRIMARILY BECAUSE THE DEAL CYCLE IN A SECOND GENERATION BUILDING IS SO SHORT. MOST OF THE TENANTS THAT ARE IN THE MARKETPLACE WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT SECOND GENERATION SPACE ARE LOOKING WITH JUST A FEW MONTHS NOTICE, SOMETIMES LESS. AND SO TO HAVE TO HIT THE PAUSE BUTTON AND SAY, WE'VE GOT TO GO THROUGH A CITY PROCESS IF WE NEED TO RETENANT IN A DIFFERENT WAY IS JUST DETRIMENTAL TO THE LEASING, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO REPORT OUR ENTIRE PROJECT'S 100% LEASED AND HAPPY TO BE HERE IN LEWISVILLE. THE STAFF HAS BEEN GREAT, AND THAT GOES FROM RICHARD AND HIS TEAM TO INSPECTIONS AND FIRE AND YOU NAME IT. IT'S JUST BEEN A GREAT PLACE TO BE. AND WE HAVE A GREAT TENANT ROSTER AND HOPE TO BE HERE IN MANY, MANY YEARS TO COME. SO WE JUST AGAIN, I'M OPPOSED. BUT IF YOU HAD TO THE EXEMPTIONS ARE ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL FOR LONG TERM OPERATIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR I DO HAVE SOME CLARITY FROM RICHARD. SO EARLIER WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DOES THE DOES THE USE FOLLOW THE LAND OR FOLLOW THE TENANT. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMEBODY LEASING TO SOMEBODY ELSE. WOULD THAT REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT IF A SITE FALLS UNDER ONE OF THE EXEMPTIONS THEN IT WOULD FOLLOW THE LAND. OKAY. SO THERE'S ALREADY ALREADY AN OPERATION OF A WAREHOUSE OR MANUFACTURING THERE ALREADY. THANK YOU. ON AS THEY ARE TODAY AFFECTED OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. HUGH BANGERTER. NAME ADDRESS 810 NORTH STEMMONS FREEWAY. I OWN A COUPLE OF AUTOMOTIVE ORIENTED PROPERTIES THAT FALL INTO THIS CATEGORY. AND I GOT THE LOVELY LITTLE POSTCARDS THAT SCARED ME, CAUSED A FAIR AMOUNT OF CONCERN. I CAME TO THE FIRST MEETING AND THERE WAS A LOT OF ANXIETY THERE AND A LOT OF UPSET. THIS LETTER, I THINK, HAS BEEN EXPLAINED TO ME, BUT IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY SAY THAT THESE ARE EXCEPTIONS IN THE PAPERWORK, JUST POINTING THAT OUT. ANOTHER CONCERN THAT I HAVE, I'M ASSUMING THAT MY PROPERTIES, BECAUSE THEY'RE SMALL AND MOM AND POP TYPE, ARE NOT GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO THIS, BUT ALL I'VE HEARD MENTIONED IS THE 500 FOOT RULE. THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER STUFF IN HERE AND DOES ALL OF THAT GO ALONG WITH THE EXEMPTION? THE 50FT, ALL THE TREES, THE BERMS, ALL THAT STUFF, THOSE THOSE ARE REQUIREMENTS. IF YOU FALL UNDER THE NEW IN THE NEW RULES. SO OKAY, RICHARD, YOU WANT TO CLARIFY THAT ANY BETTER. YES. THAT THAT COMES INTO PLAY. IF YOU'RE DEVELOPING AN DOING A DEVELOPMENT THAT REQUIRES A NEW ENGINEERING SITE PLAN, THEN THOSE REQUIREMENTS WOULD KICK IN FOR SOMETHING THAT'S EXISTING AND NOT CHANGING. YOU CAN CONTINUE ON AS YOU ARE. YEAH. I'M GOING TO MIX IT UP HERE A LITTLE BIT. THE OVERLAY DISTRICT ON 30 I 35 IMPACTS MY BUILDINGS. I WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT WHEN THAT PASSED. I DON'T KNOW HOW [02:15:04] THAT SLIPPED PAST ME, BUT IT DID. AND I WAS TOLD THAT I HAD TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS ON MY PROPERTY, INCLUDING REMOVING PARKING PLACES TO PUT IN TREES, AND I'LL HAVE PRECIOUS FEW PARKING PLACES. AS IT IS, I'LL HAVE FOUR. AND IF I TAKE OUT MY HANDICAPPED PARKING, THEN I'M GOING TO HAVE TWO SPOTS LEFT TO PARK IN ANYWAY. MY REAL QUESTION IS HOW DOES THIS PLAY WITH THE OVERLAY? DOES IT IMPACT IT? SO? SO THE TWO ARE DIFFERENT AND BUT SINCE YOU ARE UNDERNEATH BOTH YOU WOULD HAVE TO CONFORM TO BOTH. SO ONE WOULD BE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE SUP PROCESS. IF YOU WERE IF YOU TRIGGERED THAT WITH A NEW ENGINEERING SITE PLAN, THE OTHER WOULD BE FOR CONFORMING TO THE OVERLAY DISTRICT ON I-35. AND OF COURSE, THAT'S A CONVERSATION WE TALK TO FOLKS ALL THE TIME ABOUT THAT. SO THERE'S A NEW STANDARD, BUT WE MAY FIND THAT IF YOU HAVE IF YOUR PARKING IS COMPROMISED BY IT, THEN MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE AND WORK WITH STAFF TO MITIGATE THAT SOMEWHAT. I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH, BECAUSE WHEN I WAS TOLD THAT I HAD TO ELIMINATE MOST OF MY PARKING AFTER THE STATE HAS ALREADY TAKEN THE BULK OF IT, IT JUST SEEMED LIKE NONSENSE TO ME, AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE TWO ORDINANCES WERE NOT INTERACTING IN A WAY THAT WAS GOING TO MAKE MY BUILDINGS UNUSABLE, OR AND THAT'S YEAH, THAT WOULD THAT WOULD DEFINITELY BE A CHALLENGE. BUT THEY THEY ARE YOU WOULD HAVE TO WORK THROUGH BOTH OF THEM IN PARALLEL. THEY SHOULDN'T INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER. BUT THE QUESTION REALLY COMES DOWN TO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 35 OVERLAY DISTRICT. WE SPEAK TO BUSINESS OWNERS ON THAT ALL THE TIME. SO THERE THERE ARE DEFINITELY PLACES WHERE WE CAN WE WORK WITH YOU. I CAN'T SPEAK TO YOUR SPECIFIC INSTANCE, BUT I GUARANTEE IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A CHANGE, RICHARD AND THE TEAM WILL TALK WITH YOU ABOUT HOW TO DO IT. YEAH, WE NEED TO HAVE AN ONGOING DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THAT HAPPENED WITHOUT MY KNOWLEDGE. IN ANY CASE. MOVING ON. I AM IN OPPOSITION TO THIS. I THINK IT IS AN OVERREACH. BUT YOU'VE ADDRESSED MY IMMEDIATE CONCERNS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, SIR. SCOTT ELLERMAN. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS SCOTT ELLERMAN WITH CONSTELLATION REAL ESTATE PARTNERS, LOCATED AT 2021 MCKINNEY AVENUE IN DALLAS, TEXAS. FOR QUITE SOME TIME, MY COMPANY, CONSTELLATION, HAS HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING ON A PROJECT IN LEWISVILLE, WHICH HAS GONE VERY WELL SO FAR IN THE CITY. LEWISVILLE HAS BEEN EXTREMELY COMMUNICATIVE, AS WELL AS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS WITH REGARDS TO THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT. WE ACTUALLY HAVE FOLLOWED THIS AMENDMENT SINCE ITS FIRST DRAFT, SENT OUT TO PUBLIC RECORD IN DECEMBER, AND SINCE THEN HAS BEEN MODIFIED SEVERAL TIMES. AND HOWEVER, IT STILL SEEMS FAR FROM A FINISHED PRODUCT AS AS THERE STILL REMAINS A LOT OF AMBIGUITY IN OUR INTERPRETATION OF THIS AMENDMENT, THIS AMBIGUITY IN OUR MINDS COULD HAVE DRASTIC IMPLICATIONS TO THE VALUE OF MANY INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES WITHIN THE CITY OF LEWISVILLE. IT COULD HAVE SEVERE IMPLICATIONS ON LONG TERM VACANCY RATES WITHIN THE CITY, JOB GROWTH, AND THE PRESENCE OF MANY SIGNIFICANT CORPORATE USERS THAT OCCUPY ALL OF THESE BUILDINGS. AND THESE THESE CORPORATE USERS CONTRIBUTE SIGNIFICANTLY TO THE SURROUNDING TAX BASE, SOMETHING THAT CERTAINLY NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. THE PRIMARY CONCERN WITH THE AMBIGUITY IS, IS WITH REGARDS TO THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP MANY TIMES. I THINK IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER. THE THREE PRIMARY CATEGORIES ARE WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION, LIGHT MANUFACTURING, MEDIUM MANUFACTURING AND HEAVY MANUFACTURING. AND THERE IS BROUGHT UP AND THERE'S AN EXAMPLE BROUGHT UP EARLIER THAT CERTAINLY RESONATED WITH REGARDS TO A SERVICING COMPANY. YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WOULD BE STORING AND SERVING THE CITY OF LEWISVILLE. AND IT JUST WASN'T EXACTLY CLEAR WHERE ULTIMATELY THAT WOULD THAT WOULD FALL WITH REGARDS TO THE CATEGORY. AND I WOULD SAY THE DEMOGRAPHIC OF TENANTS THAT THAT OCCUPY INDUSTRIAL SPACE IN LEWISVILLE IS, IS PROBABLY AN OVERWHELMING AMOUNT OF DISTRIBUTION AND WAREHOUSING. AND SO THERE WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE AN INCLINATION TO ATTRACT THOSE TYPES OF USERS AND AVOID LONG TERM SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUIREMENTS. IF YOU WERE TO ULTIMATELY SWITCH TO LIGHT MANUFACTURING. SO IT COULD SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT THE AMOUNT OF LIGHT MANUFACTURING MEDIUM MANUFACTURING USERS THAT ULTIMATELY OCCUPY THESE BUILDINGS. AND THEN ONE THING I WANTED TO NOTE AFTER MY COLLEAGUE JOHN WAS PRESENTING IS THAT LANDLORDS ACTUALLY ARE NOT ISSUED THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. IT IS A TENANTS THAT [02:20:02] ARE ISSUED THESE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. AND MY QUESTION FOR THE STAFF WAS. BASED OFF OF THE TENANTS DESIGN BUSINESS. WHERE WOULD THAT BE. WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION, LIGHT MANUFACTURING. IS THERE GOING TO BE SOMETHING ADDED ON THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY THAT INCLUDE THE LANDLORD GOING FORWARD, BECAUSE IT'S JUST THE TENANT THAT IS ISSUED? YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY THE TENANT IS ON THE CEO AND THAT'S JUST ONE OF MULTIPLE POSSIBLE WAYS OF GAINING THE EXEMPTION. THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE FOR THE ENTIRE SITE. AND THAT'S THROUGH THE ENGINEERING SITE PLAN. OKAY. AND WITH THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IS OUR ASSUMPTION CURRENTLY THAT WE DO FALL UNDER THIS EXEMPTION. HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL SUBJECT TO ANY CHANGE IN USE AFTER THE FIRST TENANT TAKES OCCUPANCY. CORRECT. IF WE HAVE A WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION USER TAKING OCCUPANCY OF THE FIRST BUILDING, AND THEN THEY ULTIMATELY VACATE THE PROPERTY, AND WE'RE SUBJECT TO THE WHAT HAS BEEN MENTIONED BEFORE, WOULD WE NEED A SPECIAL OR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IN THE EVENT THAT WE LEASE SOMEONE WITH A SIMILAR OPERATION? THE WAY THE CURRENT THE CURRENT ORDINANCES WERE WRITTEN WITH THE ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE? WE HAVE A SNAPSHOT TAKEN ON MARCH 3RD, AND IF YOU HAVE MEET ONE OF THOSE EXEMPTIONS, THEN YOU'RE GOOD TO GO FROM THERE ON. WILL NOT HAVE TO ABIDE BY THE 500 FOOT RULE, WHICH COULD POTENTIALLY TRIGGER AN SUV. GOT IT. AND SO THE CHANGE IN CHANGE IN USE DOESN'T HAVE ANY IMPACT TO. OKAY. UNDERSTOOD. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. I THINK UNLESS DIXON RICH CAME BACK, I THINK WE HAD HIM MOVE INTO THE COMMENTS. SIR, WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF CARDS. WE'LL GET TO YOU, JEFF TRAYLOR, PLEASE. MY NAME IS JEFF TRAYLOR. I LIVE IN BARTONVILLE, BUT I'VE OWNED LAND IN LEWISVILLE FOR THE PAST 25 YEARS. I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE PNC MEETINGS AND HAVE GONE OVER WITH THEM. YOU PROBABLY RECEIVED A LETTER FROM ME ABOUT THE CEO INFORMATION. I'M NOT A REED AND I'M NOT A BIG LANDOWNER. I'M JUST A GUY WHO OWNS SOME BUILDINGS IN LEWISVILLE. THE CHALLENGE THAT I ALWAYS FACE IS, IS THAT WHEN THE BUILDINGS ARE LISTED AND THEIR USES ARE LAID OUT OF WHAT THEY CAN BE, THOSE USES WHEN THEY CHANGE, WHEN YOU BRING SOMEBODY ELSE NEW IN, IT'S NORMALLY NOT A HUGE CHALLENGE. IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GO FROM A MANUFACTURING TO A WAREHOUSE OR WAREHOUSE AND GO BACK, IT CAN GET A LITTLE DICEY AND A LITTLE TRICKY, BUT NORMALLY IT FLOWS PRETTY WELL. THE CHALLENGE THAT I HAD WITH THIS ORDINANCE WAS AT FIRST IT WAS GIGANTICALLY OVERREACHING, AND P AND Z EVEN SAW IT. THEY LOOKED AT IT AND WENT, WELL, WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO IMPACT BECAUSE THIS WHOLE PROCESS WAS BROUGHT FORWARD BECAUSE APPARENTLY YOU HAD COMPLAINTS AND YOU INSTRUCTED PNC TO DO SOMETHING AND COME UP WITH THIS TO STOP PEOPLE FROM TEARING DOWN BUILDINGS, LITTLE RETAIL SHOPS OR STRIP MALLS AND PUT IN BIG BOX WAREHOUSES, YOU KNOW, AND STUFF. AND THAT WAS THE JUSTIFICATION THAT WE WERE GIVEN AS TO WHY THIS PROCESS BEGAN. BUT IN THEIR IN THEIR OVERREACH, THEY THEY SCOOPED ALL OF US UP. NOW, PNC PUSHED BACK AND SAID, HEY, WE NEED SOME MORE PIECES ON IT. AND STAFF STEPPED UP AND MADE SOME CHANGES TO IT. THE ONE CHANGE THAT CAME UP WAS THE FACT ABOUT THE CO MARCH 5TH OR MARCH 3RD. IF YOU HAVE A CO AND THAT CO STATES THAT YOU'VE GOT ONE OF THESE USES, THEN YOU'RE GOOD. AND MY COMPLAINT AT THAT TIME WAS WELL WAIT A MINUTE. MY CURRENT SEO IS THAT MY TENANTS HAVE THEY DON'T SAY THOSE WORDS. THEY USE SOME OTHER WORDS. AND I'M LIKE WHY? STAFF WAS QUICK TO RESPOND AND SAID, OH, THOSE WERE AND I'M GOING TO GET IT WRONG. INDUSTRIAL SOMETHING, SOMETHING THAT THEY USED A YEAR AND A HALF AGO AND BEYOND THAT THEY HAD USED. BUT EVERYTHING NEW HAS THESE NEW WORDS IN IT, THE MANUFACTURING WAREHOUSE AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE TO COMPLY. THEN I WROTE AN EMAIL SAYING, SO WHAT DO I DO IF MINE SAYS FACTORY INSTEAD OF MANUFACTURING? AND I'M TOLD, WELL, IT SHOULD BE, WE WILL REVIEW IT AND WE WILL SEE THAT IT MATCHES UP AND YOU CAN GO FORWARD. AND THEN MY RESPONSE WAS, WAIT, WHY DON'T YOU JUST ADD IN THOSE CODES, THE ONES THAT YOU SAY THAT ARE ON MY CEO'S, WHICH ARE PUT THOSE INTO THE ORDINANCE SO THAT THAT WAY I AM FINE. I DON'T FALL INTO THAT GROUP OF WHERE I BECOME REVIEWED. AND WHEN YOU BECOME REVIEWED, YOU END UP FALLING [02:25:02] INTO THIS. THE STAFF LIKES TO REFER TO THE SCP, WHICH IS NOT A BIG DEAL. IT IS A BIG DEAL. OUR TENANTS COME TO US AND THEY'RE WORKING ON TIME FRAMES OF WEEKS, NOT MULTIPLE MONTHS. AND IF WE GET TIED UP IN THE FACT THAT THEY GO, WELL, HANG ON A SECOND, THIS WORD DOESN'T MATCH THIS WORD, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO AND GET THIS REVIEW. WE DIE ON THE VINE. NOW, I'M NOT A BIG REIT. LIKE I SAID, I'M JUST A GUY WHO OWNS SOME BUILDINGS. AND SO ALL I WAS ASKING THAT THEY INCLUDE WERE THE CODES THAT THEY USED ON THE CEOS THAT HAVE BEEN ISSUED FOR THE PAST MILLENNIAL THAT HAVE THAT ARE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THEY'RE SAYING, JUST MAKE IT MATCH, INCLUDE WHAT HE WANTS, THE ONES THAT ARE FROM HERE BACK A YEAR AND A HALF, BUT JUST ADD THE OTHERS. SO THAT'S WHERE MY CONCERN FALLS. I'M NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT. I LIKE SOME OF THE CHANGE IN THE END AND THE SIZES. OH, I TALKED WITH MY HANDS. MUST BE ITALIAN. BUT YOU KNOW, WE GO WITH THAT. SO LET'S CONSIDER THE FACT THAT WE DO CHANGE TENANTS. WE DO WALK THROUGH THEM OVER TIME. THEY'RE NOT THERE FOREVER. AND THEY DO COME BEFORE THIS. AND EVERY TIME IT HAPPENS, WE ALL CRINGE BECAUSE WE'RE LIKE, ARE THEY GOING TO GET IT? OR ARE THEY GOING TO GET BOOTED INTO SOME CATEGORY? SO IF YOU COULD PUSH BACK AND SAY, HEY, ADD THE CODES THAT YOU'RE REFERENCING THAT ARE ON MOST OF THE CEOS, AND I DO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. ALSO, I DO APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE BECAUSE IT'S A THANKLESS JOB. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR RICHARD I HAVE A GO AHEAD. BRANDON. HOW LARGE? HOW LARGE IS THE PROPERTY THAT YOU HAVE? HOW MANY SQUARE FEET? I'M SORRY. HOW MANY SQUARE FEET ARE YOUR ARE THE PROPERTIES THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. THEY'RE IN THE THEY GO FROM 6000 ALL THE WAY UP TO I THINK ALMOST 25,000. OKAY. SO I THINK OH WAIT, WAIT, I THINK YOU'RE EXEMPT FROM THAT IF I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M RIGHT WITH RICHARD. YES. BUT I'M WHEN I SAW THE EXEMPTION FOR 25,000, I WAS LIKE IT QUITE A BIT OF MINE OFF THE TABLE. BUT I DON'T LOOK AT IT JUST FOR ME. AND I APPRECIATE THE CONCERN, BUT I LOOK AT IT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT HERE AND PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE THAT LOOK AT IT AND GO, WE DON'T WANT TO FALL INTO IT. AND WHAT I WANT TO EXPLAIN TO YOU IS LIKE, WHAT I'M WHAT I'M TRYING TO GRASP IS, LIKE, EVERYONE WHO'S TALKED SO FAR, THAT'S GIVEN US SQUARE FOOTAGE. WE'VE SEEN THAT, THAT, THAT THEY THAT THEY HAVE EXEMPTIONS OUT OF THERE. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE COVERED WITH THAT AT LEAST. AND ALSO WITH ANY ORDINANCE. IT ALSO CAN BE IMPROVED AND IMPROVED ON. SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO ACT ON ANYBODY'S BUSINESS. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE OKAY. AND AS THINGS COME FORWARD, WE DO INVITE YOU. AND OUR STAFF, AS EVERYONE HAS SAID, IS VERY GOOD AT LISTENING AND WORKING WITH FOLKS FOR ANYTHING THAT MAY COME UP IN THE FUTURE. BUT WE DO HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC REASON WHY WE'RE DOING THIS, AND IT'S NOT TO IMPACT THE BUSINESSES THAT WE THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH. SO I JUST MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S UNDERSTOOD. AND I TALK WITH MY HANDS TOO. SO I JUST HIT THE MIC. I WOULD I'D ALSO LIKE TO SAY AND REITERATE THE FACT THAT IT FOLLOWS THE LAND, NOT THE TENANT. IT FOLLOWS THE LAND, NOT THE TENANT. SO IF YOU'RE EXEMPT AND YOU HAVE A TENANT, AND THEN YOU LOSE THAT TENANT AND YOU GET A NEW TENANT, IT FOLLOWS THE LAND, NOT THE TENANT FULLY AWARE OF THAT. OKAY. AND BUT THE QUESTION THAT COMES DOWN TO IS IF IT DOESN'T MATCH THE LAND THAT FOLLOWING THE TENANT, YOU KNOW, IF THE LAND, IT'S FOLLOWING THE LAND, NOT THE TENANT, IF THAT CODE IS NOT WHAT THEY HAVE ON FILE AT THAT MOMENT AND YOU COME FORWARD, THAT'S GOING TO GO IN PERPETUITY UNTIL YOU CHANGE IT AGAIN. SO THAT LANGUAGE, THOSE IDENTIFIERS, WAREHOUSE MANUFACTURING OR FACTORY AND STORAGE, THEY'RE BOTH OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, BUT WE'RE ONLY ADDRESSING ONE SET. RICHARD, WOULD YOU ADDRESS THAT REAL QUICK? YES. IF YOU HAVE AN EXEMPTION ON MARCH 3RD AND WE'VE GOT SEVERAL DIFFERENT CATEGORIES THERE, THEN THAT IS PERMANENT IN FOR THAT PROPERTY IN THE CURRENT STATE THAT IT'S IN. NOW, IF YOU PROPOSE CHANGES THAT TRIGGERS AN ENGINEERING SITE PLAN, THEN YOU WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE 500 FOOT RULE. BUT IF YOU FALL IN AN EXEMPTION AND IF, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, THE MAJORITY OF BUILDINGS BUILT SINCE THE 19 OR LATE 1980S HAVE ENGINEERING SITE PLANS ON FILE HERE AT THE CITY THAT DESIGNATE THE ZONING USE. SO IT'S VERY EASY TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION. BUT THE CODES ARE DIFFERENT TO THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE REFERENCES. IF YOUR CEO HAS THESE CODES ON IT, THESE WORDS OLD CODES DO NOT HAVE THOSE WORDS. AND THAT'S ONLY A YEAR AND A HALF AGO IT CHANGED. SO I'M SAYING IF SOMEONE HAS TO GO, WELL WE AGREE THAT THESE OLD CODES MATCH THE NEW ONES. THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I IT'S WORDS. AND I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT YOUR EXEMPTION IS NOT NECESSARILY FALLING UNDER THAT. CO. LOOK AT THE SIZE OF YOUR BUILDINGS. BUT YOU YOU YOU CAN'T ARGUE JUST FOR ME. NO. AND I MEAN IT'S SAD THAT I'M PASSIONATE TO YOU ABOUT THIS [02:30:05] WHEN I KNOW THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO HIT ME. SO I'M SAYING IS IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT A LARGE ITEM TO ADD THOSE CODES THAT MATCH. GOTCHA. STAFF BELIEVES THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE OF THE OF THE EXEMPTIONS WILL COVER PROBABLY 99.9% OF THE SITUATIONS IN THE CITY THAT'S CURRENTLY ON THE GROUND. SO I DO HAVE A QUICK FOLLOW UP QUESTION. THAT'S ACTUALLY A VERY THAT'S AN INTERESTING THOUGHT. I'M ALSO SKEPTICAL. THAT'S WHY I'M SKEPTICAL ABOUT THE 25,000 FOOT. THE SQUARE FOOT RULE IS BECAUSE I THINK ABOUT HOW CAN THIS BE ABUSED. SO WE THINK ACTUALLY VERY SIMILARLY TO THIS. SO MY QUESTION IS I THINK THERE'S A MISUNDERSTANDING THAT IF YOUR SEO OR YOUR SITE PLAN DOESN'T SAY ONE OF A COUPLE OF WORDS ON THERE, THEN IT TRIGGERS AN SCP. MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU JUST GOT TO GO TO YOU OR SOMEONE ON YOUR STAFF AND GO, I THINK THESE ARE THE EQUIVALENT. AND IF YOU SAY IT IS, THEN THEY'RE GOOD. THERE'S NO SCP REQUIRED ON THAT. IS THAT ACCURATE? THAT IS CORRECT. AND AS LONG AS THERE'S THE EXEMPTION IN PLACE, THEN THEY'RE NOT SUBJECT TO THE 500 FOOT RULE OR POSSIBLE SCP. RICHARD, WOULD IT BE A FAIR ASSUMPTION TO SAY, BECAUSE I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE SEO, WOULD IT BE A FAIR ASSUMPTION TO SAY THAT WE'VE THE EXEMPTION THAT'S BEING PROPOSED THAT REVERTS TO THE ENGINEERING SITE PLAN WAS KIND OF AN INTENTION OF CATCHING ALL OF THAT. YES. IF SOMETHING'S NOT CLEAR ON ON THE SEO, YOU COULD ALWAYS DEFAULT TO THE ENGINEERING SITE PLAN, WHICH IS VERY CONCRETE IN ITS TERMINOLOGY. OKAY. ANGELA HUNT. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY NAME IS ANGELA HUNT. I'M WITH THE LAW FIRM OF MUNCH HART, 500 NORTH STREET IN DALLAS. I'M HERE TONIGHT REPRESENTING A NUMBER OF INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY OWNERS, INCLUDING NUVEEN, WHICH IS THE TEACHERS ANNUITY REAL ESTATE, FIRST INDUSTRIAL STOUMONT, MAJESTIC REALTY, TLF LOGISTICS, AND OTHERS. THIS REPRESENTS HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN INVESTMENT IN THE CITY AND HUNDREDS OF JOBS. THE PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU TONIGHT THREATENS THAT INVESTMENT. THE PRACTICAL EFFECT OF THIS WHERE AS CURRENTLY A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IS NOT REQUIRED FOR EITHER A WAREHOUSE USE OR A LIGHT MANUFACTURING USE. THE PRACTICAL EFFECT IS THAT WAREHOUSE USES AND LIGHT MANUFACTURING USES IN THE CITY WILL REQUIRE SUPS IN A NUMBER OF CIRCUMSTANCES. AS A RESULT, THIS MAKES LEWISVILLE LESS ATTRACTIVE TO INDUSTRIAL TENANTS. IT ALSO MAKES IT LESS LIKELY THAT OWNERS OF INDUSTRIAL SITES WILL REINVEST IN THE PROPERTY TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PROPERTY. ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO TRIGGER AN ENGINEERING SITE PLAN IS GOING TO REQUIRE AN SUP. IT'S GOING TO TRIGGER IT. SO FROM AN OWNERSHIP STANDPOINT, THE OWNERS WILL BE LESS LIKELY TO MAKE SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS INTO THE PROPERTY TO RECONSTRUCT OLD BUILDINGS. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE SEEING THAT. AND TENANTS WILL BE LESS LIKELY TO LOOK AT LEWISVILLE BECAUSE IF THEY HAVE A CHOICE BETWEEN LOOKING AT CITIES THAT REQUIRE AN SUP VERSUS CITIES, THAT, AS LEWISVILLE HAS BEEN ALLOWING THESE USES BY RIGHT, THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO THOSE CITIES THAT WILL NOT REQUIRE AN SUP. AND SEVERAL MONTHS LONG PROCESS. IF THE COUNCIL DOES MOVE FORWARD IN APPROVING THIS TONIGHT, WE AGREE WITH OTHER SPEAKERS. STAFF HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OF MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO THIS. WITH THE ADDITIONAL EXCEPTIONS. WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU ADD THOSE TONIGHT. IF YOU DO VOTE AFFIRMATIVELY FOR THIS. THANK YOU. I ACTUALLY HAVE A CLARIFYING QUESTION, MISS HUNT. I'M SORRY. SO AT THE BEGINNING YOU MENTIONED THAT THAT THERE WAS SOME INVESTMENTS THAT WERE CAN YOU GO OVER THAT AGAIN? YOU SAID THERE'S I GUESS SOME INVESTMENT VEHICLES THAT THAT SCHOOL TEACHERS AND PEOPLE WOULD, WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THIS. COULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE? CERTAINLY ONE OF THE OWNERSHIP INTERESTS ARE REPRESENTED IS NUVEEN. IT'S THE TEACHER'S ANNUITY FUND. RIGHT. AND SO THEIR INVESTMENTS MAKE AN ENORMOUS DIFFERENCE TO WHAT THEIR RETIREMENT IS, WHAT THEY CAN EXPECT. AND IT DOES IMPACT TEACHERS. SO THAT'S WHY I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE THINGS GOING FORWARD. SO THAT FUND THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THAT'S ALREADY BUILT THAT'S ALREADY THAT'S ALREADY INVESTED. SO LET ME UNDERSTAND HOW THIS WOULD AFFECT OUR SCHOOL TEACHERS. GREAT. GREAT QUESTION MAYOR PRO TEM. SO IF WE LOOK AT WHAT IS ALLOWED CURRENTLY WE'RE ALLOWED TO MOVE FORWARD BY RIGHT [02:35:05] ON MAKING INVESTMENTS. IF IN A WAREHOUSE OR A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USE. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WELL, THAT MEANS THAT IF WE HAVE 1,000,000 SQUARE FOOT, A HALF MILLION SQUARE FOOT BUILDING AND IT IS OLD, IT'S DILAPIDATED. WE NEED TO BUILD A NEW TAKE IT DOWN. IF WE WANT TO BUILD THAT. UNDER THE CURRENT PROPOSAL, WE WOULD NEED TO GET AN SUP. WE WOULD NOT HAVE THOSE USES BY RIGHT, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE COMING BACK WITH A NEW ENGINEERING SITE PLAN. AND SO THAT'S GOING TO TRIGGER THE NEW REQUIREMENTS. AT LEAST THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. AND I OF COURSE, I DEFER TO YOUR STAFF ON THIS, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS IF WE'RE COMING BACK WITH MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS TO A SITE, EITHER TEARING DOWN A BUILDING OR BUILDING A NEW BUILDING ON THE SITE, WE'RE GOING TO BE SUBMITTING A NEW ENGINEERING SITE PLAN, AND THAT WOULD TRIGGER THE SUP PROCESS. SO I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLARIFY THAT. SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT FOLLOWS THE LAND. NOW, IF YOU WANTED TO EXPAND A WAREHOUSE THAT I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH AND EXPAND THE WAREHOUSING, YOU'VE GOT PERHAPS AN ISSUE FOR LCP. BUT RICHARD, COULD YOU OPINE ON THAT, PLEASE? YES. IMPROVEMENTS ON A SITE LIKE A RENOVATION ONLY REQUIRES A PERMIT. THERE'S ONLY CERTAIN THINGS THAT TRIGGER AN ENGINEERING SITE PLAN. THAT'S USUALLY A MAJOR EXPANSION. OUR THE UDC DOES ALLOW A SMALL, MODEST EXPANSION TO AN EXISTING WAREHOUSE OR MANUFACTURING UP TO 10% OF THE EXISTING BUILDING, OR 5000FT■!S, WHICH, WHICHEVER IS LESS. WE EVEN ALLOW SOME MODEST ADDITIONS OF PARKING. I THINK UP TO ABOUT 10 OR 11 SPACES. WE ALSO HAVE PROVISIONS TO ALLOW, YOU KNOW, REWORKING OF LANDSCAPING AND SO FORTH. A LOT OF THAT CAN BE DONE WITHOUT THE ENGINEERING SITE PLAN, BUT IF A BUILDING IS DILAPIDATED AND COMPLETELY REMOVED, THEN THE IT WOULD WOULD TRIGGER THE IF IT'S IN WITHIN 500FT OF ONE OF THE LESSER. SO THERE'S A LOT OF IFS, IT'S VERY SITE SPECIFIC. IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE ENVIRONMENT AROUND THE SITE. AND IF IT DOES TRIGGER AN SUP, THAT CAN BE, AS I SAID EARLIER, GO CONCURRENTLY WITH THE ENGINEERING SITE PLAN IF IT'S WELL SITED AND VERY, VERY LITTLE IMPACT ON LESSER INTENSE USES, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY WOULD RECEIVE A RECOMMENDATION FROM APPROVAL FROM STAFF. ONCE THE SUP IS GRANTED, THEN THE SITE IS GOOD. SO THERE'S NOT REALLY GOING TO BE AN IMPACT ON ON TENANT ISSUES MOVING IN AND OUT AFTER THE SITE IS CONSTRUCTED. IT WOULD BE LEGALLY CONFORMING WITH NO PROBLEMS. THANK THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTIONS AND THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. LAUREN BILLINGS. HI AGAIN. MY NAME IS LAUREN BILLINGS. I LIVE AT 1008 VANCOUVER DRIVE AND MY CHILD AND I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY TO YOU. SO OUT OF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WE'VE HEARD TO SPEAK TONIGHT, I AM A WAREHOUSE OWNER IN ALLEN, BUT I LIVE IN LEWISVILLE AND I AM CURRENTLY SELLING MY WAREHOUSE THAT I BUILT. I AM THE LANDOWNER AND I AM LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO RENT. AS A BUSINESS OWNER. I THINK YOUR SUP IS NOT FIRM ENOUGH. I THINK THIS WILL PROBABLY BE A SHOCK TO A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE ROOM, BUT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU A STORY SO YOU'LL NOTICE I HAVE MY BABY DINOSAUR IN MY HAND. I KNOW EVERYBODY WANTS TO SEE THIS IS MY BABY. CAN YOU SEE THE RESEMBLANCE? VERY BEAUTIFUL. YES, I BUILD THESE THINGS. THIS IS MY FAMILY BUSINESS. I STRAIGHT UP BUILD DINOSAURS. IT'S THE COOLEST JOB. I DO THIS IN ALLEN. WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 21 YEARS, AND THIS IS LITERALLY A MOM AND POP SHOP. I STILL WORK WITH MY MOM. WE GOT OUT OF THE RENTAL GAME, BUT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU A STORY. I CAN'T TELL YOU WHO THE PROPERTY OWNER IS BECAUSE YOU'VE ALREADY SAID THEIR NAME AND THEY'VE ALREADY PRESENTED IN THIS ROOM, SO I'M NOT GOING TO EMBARRASS THEM. BUT I SUPPORT SUP. I'M JUST GOING TO LOVINGLY CALL IT THAT, BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN PROPERTY OWNERS DON'T TAKE ACCOUNTABILITY. I RENTED A 50,000 SQUARE FOOT, SQUARE FOOT WAREHOUSE SPACE THAT WAS ATTACHED TO ANOTHER WAREHOUSE SPACE. MY SIDE. I BUILT ANIMATRONIC DINOSAURS AND PIECES LIKE THIS THAT I BRING AROUND GLOBALLY TO INSPIRE EDUCATION AND INSPIRING PEOPLE TO GET INTO ELECTRONICS AND ENGINEERING AND STUDYING THE PREHISTORIC PAST. MY NEIGHBOR BUILDS NUTRITIONAL SUPPLEMENTS [02:40:04] THAT PEOPLE INGEST. REALLY FUN. I DON'T KNOW WHAT GOES INTO THOSE THINGS, BUT I KNOW PEOPLE EAT THEM. WE SHARED A WALL AND AN AC UNIT, AND EVERY NOW AND THEN MY ROOM, WHICH WAS CLOSEST TO MY NEIGHBOR, IT WOULD MAKE MY ROOM SMELL LIKE FLINTSTONE VITAMINS, NOT TO GO ON DINOSAUR THEME, AND ONE DAY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAD TO COME IN AND THEY PUT THIS LITTLE DEVICE IN THE AIR TO MEASURE THE MOLECULES IN MY AIR. AND I ASKED THEM AS A JOKE, AM I GOING TO DIE? AND THEY DIDN'T ANSWER BECAUSE THEY WERE LITERALLY CHECKING IF I WAS GOING TO DIE. WHAT HAPPENED HAPPENED IS THE COMPANY NEXT TO ME HAD DROPPED SOME CHEMICALS, AND WHATEVER COMBINATION OF CHEMICALS THEY HAD DROPPED, IT HAD CAUSED A CHAIN REACTION. AND IF YOU WERE STANDING OVER IT WITHIN SECONDS, YOU WOULD BE DEAD BECAUSE WE WERE SHARING A FILTRATION UNIT, THE AIR HAD GONE OVER TO OUR SIDE AND WE WERE IN DANGER AS WELL. WE HATED THE VITAMIN SMELL. WE HAD TOLD THE PROPERTY MANAGER SEVERAL TIMES, HEY, IT SMELLS LIKE FRUITY VITAMINS AND IT'S GIVING US HEADACHES. CAN YOU PLEASE STOP IT? BUT WE WERE TOLD WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO CHASE SMELLS, AND THE HAZMAT TEAM FROM FRISCO HAD TO COME OUT BECAUSE ALLEN DOESN'T HAVE A HAZMAT TEAM, AND THEY CLOSED DOWN OUR BUILDING FOR A DAY. AND THE FIRST THING MY EMPLOYEES ASKED WERE, ARE WE GETTING PAID TODAY? NOT IF THEY'RE GOING TO LIVE OR DIE, JUST ARE WE GETTING PAID? I TRIED TO GO THROUGH MY INSURANCE AND ASK THEM, DOES THIS COUNT AS A NATURAL DISASTER? BECAUSE CLEARLY THIS IS NOT MY FAULT. WHY AM I RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE THAT MY EMPLOYEES HAVE ENOUGH MONEY? BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE CAUSED THIS PROBLEM? BECAUSE SOMEBODY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH CHECKS, BECAUSE MY LANDLORD DIDN'T MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE OKAY. NO, IT'S ALL ON YOU GUYS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO. NOW, OF COURSE, I HAVE THIS WELDER I LOVE, BUT HE ALWAYS WANTS HIS PAY AND HE'S GOT TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY BACK HOME. SO I SAID, SCREW IT. IT'S JUST GOING TO COME OUT OF OUR PAYCHECK, OUT OF MY MONEY, TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS PAY. EVEN THOUGH THIS WAS SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROBLEM THAT COULD HAVE EASILY BEEN AVOIDED. SO I ASK YOU OR I TELL YOU, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING SUPP IN BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S UP. TAKING CARE OF OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR PEOPLE. AND I KNOW THESE GUYS OVER HERE IN THE SUITS, THEY'RE LIKE, HEY, YOU'RE HOLDING US DOWN. BUT I'VE BUILT A BUILDING AND I KNOW ANYONE. THE FIRE MARSHAL, THE CITY, WHATEVER. ENGINEERS CAN COME IN AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU NEED A FEW MORE VENTS ON THIS SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND THEY CAN HOLD IT UP. FOR WHATEVER REASON. THEY CAN FIGURE IT OUT. SO THANK YOU, GUYS. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT FOR MAKING LOUISVILLE A SAFE AND INHABITABLE PLACE FOR ALL OF US. AND BABY SARAH, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, LANCE VAN ZANDT. ALL RIGHT. LANCE VAN ZANDT 512 WEST HICKORY I REPRESENT THE LEATHERWOOD PLASTICS INC HERE AND HERE IN LEWISVILLE. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. WE'VE WE'VE PRETTY CONSISTENTLY FROM THE BEGINNING SPOKEN AND WRITTEN IN OPPOSITION TO THE CHANGES. OF COURSE, OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS, WE'VE SEEN THE STAFF WORK ON SOME OF THE CONCERNS AND BRING ABOUT SOME EXEMPTIONS. AND I THINK WE'RE YOU KNOW, I THINK OUR, OUR EXISTING BUSINESS FALLS UNDER MAYBE A COUPLE OF THE EXEMPTIONS. SO I'M NOT SO CONCERNED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TODAY OR TOMORROW. BUT YOU KNOW, WE ARE SOMEWHAT UNIQUE FROM THE OTHER FOLKS THAT HAVE SPOKEN. MR. LEATHERWOOD HAS AN OWNER OCCUPIED SMALL MANUFACTURING TYPE BUSINESS THAT HE'S HE STARTED IN LEWISVILLE OVER 30 YEARS AGO, CAME FROM FLOWER MOUND ABOUT 30 YEARS AGO, BUILT HIS BUSINESS HERE IN LEWISVILLE. AND THAT'S ESSENTIALLY THE FAMILY RETIREMENT. IT'S THE THAT'S THE FAMILY ASSET. SO NOT NOT SO MUCH CONCERNED ABOUT THE OPERATION. I THINK STAFF HAS BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE AND HELPFUL IN WORKING THROUGH SOME OF THOSE ISSUES. BUT IN MY MIND, IT'S STILL CREATES UNCERTAINTY AS TO AS TO THE FUTURE A POTENTIAL BUYER, A BANKER FOR A POTENTIAL INVESTOR, YOU KNOW, AN INVESTOR THAT WANTS TO COME IN AND BUY THE BUSINESS AND EXPAND IT. I'M NOT. I'M JUST NOT SURE THAT THAT THE HOW THAT'S PROTECTED BY WHAT I'M NOW HEARING IS A LEGAL, [02:45:03] NONCONFORMING USE. THIS IS ACTUALLY THE FIRST TIME THAT I'VE HEARD THAT IN A MEETING WHERE THIS HAS BEEN REFERRED TO AS A LEGAL, NOT AS A LEGAL, AS A LEGAL CONFORMING USE. THAT'S GREAT. AND I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT. I JUST I CAN'T SAY WITH ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY, TELL MY CLIENT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT IN THE FUTURE. AND THAT'S THAT'S WHAT CONCERNS US. AND ESPECIALLY FOLKS WHO LIKE MR. MR. LEATHERWOOD, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK AND LOOKING AT SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED BY THE CUMULATIVE ZONING DISTRICT. I MEAN, THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, IN FAIRNESS, THOSE ARE THOSE ARE DEVELOPERS, HOME BUILDERS, HOME BUYERS WHO CONSTRUCTED THEIR THEIR HOMES IN A WHAT THEY KNEW WAS A NEXT TO A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. SO I KNOW THAT'S NOT I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT BUILT NEXT TO YOU, BUT IT'S YOU KNOW, IT SHOULDN'T BE A SURPRISE THAT THAT, THAT THAT AT LEAST COULD HAPPEN. YOU KNOW, MR. LEATHERWOOD, THESE ARE YOU KNOW, NONE OF THESE PROBLEMS WERE CREATED BY BY MR. LEATHERWOOD OR FOR FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN HERE OPERATING FOR 30 YEARS. BUT IT SEEMS LIKE HE'S PAYING SOME OF THOSE COSTS THAT WERE CREATED BY OTHERS. SO THAT'S OUR YOU KNOW, THAT'S OUR COMPLAINT AND OUR CONCERN. AND AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE RECORD, WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, MAINTAIN OUR POSITION. BUT IF IT IS PASSED, WE CERTAINLY HOPE THAT YOU DO IT WITH ALL THESE EXEMPTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN CARVED OUT FOR EXISTING OWNERS. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU, SIR JAMES BILLINGTON. I'M JAMES BILLINGTON, I'M A REAL ESTATE BROKER AND A INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPER. THE BIGGEST PROBLEM THAT I SEE WITH THIS WHOLE THING TONIGHT IS YOU GUYS HAVE PUT TOGETHER A HALF BAKED IDEA, AND YOU'RE TRYING TO SHOVE IT DOWN OUR THROATS. THERE'S A LOT OF AMBIGUITY. LIKE SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED, YOU'RE IN JEOPARDY OF HARMING OTHER PEOPLE'S FUTURES THAT HAVE PURCHASED LAND IN LEWISVILLE THAT EITHER HAVE OR ARE PLANNING TO BUILD, OR HAVE ALREADY BUILT. AND THIS GENTLEMAN OVER HERE, RICHARD, HE SPENT 30 MINUTES BLOWING A BUNCH OF HOT AIR OUT HERE TO US AND NOT GIVING US ANY SPECIFICS LIKE HE MENTIONED. WELL, THE PEOPLE WEREN'T GETTING ALONG WITH MARY KAY. HE DIDN'T SAY WHY. HE HASN'T SAID HE HASN'T GIVEN ONE EXAMPLE OF WHY THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH CURRENT ZONING MEETING UP MEETING UP TO RESIDENTIAL, NOT ONE. AND HE SPENT 30 MINUTES TALKING TO US, BLOWING SMOKE UP OUR BUTTS. UP YOUR BUTTS. YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND YOU GUYS ARE FALLING FOR ALL THIS. NONE OF YOU GUYS, BASED ON YOUR BIOS, HAVE ANY BUSINESS EXPERIENCE WHATSOEVER. YOU HAVEN'T CREATED ANY JOBS EVER. YOU DON'T CREATE ANY JOBS NOW. SO I CAN UNDERSTAND THE CONFUSION THAT YOU GUYS. AND BY THE WAY, PEOPLE, NEXT TIME YOU VOTE FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAKE DARN SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT LIBERAL. AND ALSO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE SOME BUSINESS EXPERIENCE. BECAUSE WHEN YOU DON'T GET PEOPLE WITH BUSINESS EXPERIENCE, THIS IS WHAT YOU GET RIGHT HERE. THIS IS A SHAM. YOU GUYS ARE NOT COMPETENT ENOUGH TO MAKE DECISIONS LIKE THIS BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING. YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND BUSINESS. YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO UNDERSTAND BUSINESS. AND BASED ON WHAT WE'VE SEEN FOR THE LAST MONTH AND A HALF, YOU JUST DON'T GET IT. YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO GET IT. THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE GOING TO GET IT IS WHEN YOU GUYS GO AHEAD AND PASS THIS THING THROUGH. AND THEN SOME OF US THAT HAVE GUTS ENOUGH TO STAND UP TO YOU ARE GOING TO SUE YOU. AND BY THE WAY, TEXAS LAW CHANGED. YOU CAN BE SUED INDIVIDUALLY, NOT JUST AS A GROUP, NOT JUST AS A CITY. AND BY GOD, THERE'S ENOUGH PEOPLE OVER HERE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO OFF THAT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO YOU. YOU'RE GOING TO GET SUED. AND THIS WONDERFUL PLANNING DEPARTMENT THAT YOU HAVE OVER HERE. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NEXT COUNCIL THAT COMES IN HERE IS GOING TO REMOVE THEM AND BRING SOME NEW PEOPLE IN HERE THAT ACTUALLY HAVE SOME INTELLIGENCE. AND THIS GUY RIGHT HERE, BIGGEST I LOOK, I'M 67 YEARS OLD. I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYBODY IN MY LIFE BLOW AS MUCH HOT AIR AS RICHARD AND NOT SAY ANYTHING EXCEPT FOR MAYBE SOME OF THE DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMEN IN THE WHITE HOUSE. BUT IT'S A JOKE WHEN YOU COME UP HERE. AND IF YOU WOULD GIVE US SOME FACTS ABOUT WHY THIS IS NEEDED, YOU WOULD HAVE GOT SOME SUPPORT. BUT HE DIDN'T. HE NEVER HAS. THIS HAS BEEN AN INTO A MONTH AND A HALF OR LONGER. YOU GUYS DON'T EVEN HAVE A SEE, YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE A CITY ATTORNEY OVER HERE, DO YOU? OR. NO. YEAH, I GUESS YOU ARE. OKAY, SO I WOULD GET SOME ADVICE FROM HER AND SEE IF YOU DON'T PUT YOUR TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT PUTTING YOURSELF IN JEOPARDY. AND I'LL TELL YOU SOMETHING ELSE TO WE'LL RUN OUT OF TIME HERE. THIS THIS IS A JOKE. YOU WOULD HAVE HAD A LOT MORE INPUT IF YOU PUT THIS IN IN A LEWISVILLE ENVELOPE. OKAY. [02:50:03] WITH THE PIECE OF STATIONERY IN THERE, LIKE WE GET IF WE'RE GRASS IS TOO TALL OR ANYTHING ELSE, BUT THIS THIS THIS LOOKS LIKE SPAM. DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY REAL DO YOU HAVE ANY REALIZE DO YOU REALIZE HOW MUCH SPAM WE GET IN A DAY? IT'S RIDICULOUS. AND THEN YOU GO IN AND ADD TO THAT, ALL RIGHT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO TOLERATE ANY CHANGES TO THE SETBACK RULE. IF YOU GO IN AND ADOPT A 50 FOOT SETBACK, I HAVE SOME LAND TO DEVELOP. I'M GOING TO SUE YOU FOR THAT 20FT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S 30 FOOT SETBACK. I'M GOING TO SUE YOU FOR EMINENT DOMAIN ON THAT 20 FOOT THAT YOU'RE TAKING WITHOUT JUST CAUSE AND WITHOUT PAYMENT. AND I'M 100% AGAINST THE ZONING, YOUR LANDSCAPE, YOUR LANDSCAPE STUFF THAT YOU GUYS HAVE OUT THERE IS COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS. IF YOU HAD ANYBODY WITH ANY COMMON SENSE THAT WORKED IN THE CITY THAT KNEW YOU DON'T PUT A BUNCH OF CANOPY TREES 30FT APART, THEY'RE GOING TO TOUCH LIMBS AND BLOCK OUT ALL THE PLANTS AND ALL THE GRASS UNDERNEATH IT. AND YOU WANT TO DO A FIVE FOOT HIGH BERM SO THAT ALL THAT, WHEN ALL THE GRASS DIES FROM THE TREES, IT SHEDS ALL THE DIRT INTO THE STREETS. YEAH. THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO IMPRESS THE ENVIRONMENTAL AGENCY IN TEXAS. SO. NOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IF A BUILDING IS DESTROYED BY FIRE OR A TORNADO? YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO A NEW SITE PLAN. WHAT IF THEY DECIDE INSTEAD OF ONE 50,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, THEY FIND IT'S MORE ECONOMICAL TO BUILD 3 OR 4 SMALLER BUILDINGS. SO NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN OUR OUR TWO 25,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDINGS. SO NOW THEY GOT TO GO THROUGH SOME PROCESS. AND WHO'S GOING TO RUN THE SUP PROCESS? HAVE YOU ALL EVER WITNESSED HOW THE PROCESS WORKS IN THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE? IT'S 90 DAYS OR BETTER. WHO'S GOING TO MANAGE THAT? AND WHO GETS TO DECIDE WHO'S GOING TO BE THE ONE THAT SAYS WHETHER SOMETHING IS LIGHT, INDUSTRIAL OR LIGHT INTENSITY OR HEAVY, INTENSE INTENSITY? IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT IN HERE. THERE'S NO CLARIFICATION ON THAT. THANK YOU SIR, THANK YOU. KEVIN VESSEY. YEAH. KEVIN VESSEY, GO ON ONCE. YEAH. CHRIS SCARBOROUGH. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. 13 894 STEAKS TEXAS. THANK YOU. I KIND OF AGREE WITH THE GUY A LITTLE BIT. HE'S A LITTLE HYPER BUT I AGREE WITH HIM JUST A LITTLE BIT ON SOME THINGS LIKE YOU KNOW TORNADO HITS THAT BUILDING. WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS FOR THAT? YOU KNOW WHAT IF THE GUY HAS. ABSOLUTELY NO WAY TO STOP WHAT HAPPENS TO HIS BUILDING AND HE'S GOING TO REBUILD? IS HE GOING TO FOLLOW UNDER? IS HE GOING TO FOLLOW UNDER SOME SORT OF GUIDELINES THAT HE'S ABLE TO REBUILD HIS BUILDING ON THAT? I MEAN, IT DOESN'T AFFECT ME. MY BUILDING IS UNDER 5000FT■!S. I'M DOING PRETTY GOOD HERE. SO BUT THIS IS ABOUT EVERYBODY ELSE AS WELL. AND I SEE SOME FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS HERE. SO I MEAN THEY'RE GOING TO ASK YOU THE SAME THING. SO WHAT IS IT. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THERE? I MEAN THAT'S A QUESTION. IT'S A REAL QUESTION. IS THAT GUY GOING TO BE FALLING UNDER THIS? DOES ANYBODY KNOW I DON'T I FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND IT, IF THE GUY IF MISS HUNT WANTS TO PUT MORE THAN 5000 SQUARE FOOT TO HER EXISTING BUILDING, NOW SHE'S GOING TO HAVE TO REFILE. SHE MIGHT HAVE ENOUGH LAND, MIGHT NEVER HAVE SPACE TO PUT THE SPOT. BUT NOW SHE'S GOING TO BE BOUND TO THIS NEW RULE, WHICH IS GOING TO DRIVE UP THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION. I OWN A CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, AND I BUILD RESTAURANTS, MOVIE THEATERS AND CHURCHES ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS ACROSS THE UNITED STATES. I'M CURRENTLY IN ATLANTA, GEORGIA, FIXING TO FLORIDA. I BUILD IN CALIFORNIA, I BUILD IN MAINE. I BUILD ALL OVER. MY BUSINESS IS RIGHT HERE. I DO THAT WITH 20 PEOPLE. WE AVERAGE ABOUT 20 MILLION A YEAR. THANK YOU, JESUS FOR THAT. NOT LAST YEAR. IT'S THE WORST YEAR OF MY LIFE. IT COST ME $2 MILLION TO KEEP MY DOORS OPEN HERE IN LEWISVILLE. BUT AGAIN, THIS DOESN'T AFFECT ME AS MUCH AS IT AFFECTS EVERYBODY ELSE. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO FOR SOME OF THE SIMPLEST THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN? MISS HUNT MADE A VALID POINT. SHE NEEDS TO UPGRADE. THAT REQUIRES A NEW SITE PLAN. I GO THROUGH SITE PLAN BUILDING APARTMENTS ALL THE TIME. WE SO MUCH AS FART DURING CONSTRUCTION. I HATE TO SAY IT THAT WAY, BUT WE DO AND ALL OF A SUDDEN REQUIRES A NEW SITE PLAN DURING CONSTRUCTION. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THEN? IT DOESN'T CHANGE. THESE PEOPLE NEED. IF THEY HAVE AN EXISTING BUILDING, IT NEEDS TO FOLLOW THE LAND. AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO ALLOW NEW HOMEOWNERS OR NEW SUBDIVISIONS TO COME IN, MAYBE THEY SHOULD BE HELD TO THAT 500 FOOT RULE SO THAT THEY DON'T GO ON TO THAT [02:55:01] EXISTING PROPERTY. HE SPOKE OF IN THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE 30 MINUTES, WHERE HE SAID THAT THAT BUILDING WAS PUT THERE IN THE 1980S, AND THEY GOT TRUCKS COMING AROUND. PLANNING COULD HAVE HAPPENED WAY BEFORE THEN TO WHERE IT WOULDN'T HAVE ALLOWED THE IMPACT OF THE CITIZENS TO BE GREATLY AFFECTED BY THAT TRUCKING. SO THE CITY ALLOWED IT. I GET IT, WE GOT TO MAKE MONEY. WE GOT TO ALLOW GROWTH, THE NEW POTENTIALS AND SOME OF THESE PEOPLE, WHEN THEY BUY A BIG, NICE, FANCY HOUSE AND RIGHT BEHIND THEM IS, I DON'T KNOW, THE MAKEUP COMPANY. WELL, IF THEY DIDN'T LOOK BEHIND THEIR HOUSE TO SEE THERE WAS A MAKEUP BUILDING BACK THERE. I'M SORRY. THAT'S JUST THE PROBLEM. YOU GOT TO DEAL WITH THAT. BUT THEY SHOULD SEE IT. I MEAN, IT'S NOT LIKE MARY KAY'S TINY THAT TAKES UP HALF THE MAN. IT'S ALMOST BIGGER THAN THE MALL WE GOT. SO THAT'S ALL I GOT. MOST OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD ARE ANSWERED. THANK YOU SIR. WELL, NARDUZZI, MY APOLOGIES ON THE LAST NAME. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. I'M A LITTLE BIT OF A TWEENER BECAUSE I RUN A REAL ESTATE COMPANY CALLED MATADOR REALTY INVESTMENTS. WE'RE LOCALLY OWNED IN PLANO, TEXAS. WE BOUGHT OUR BUILDING AT 699 STATE HIGHWAY 121 AND RAILROAD. WE CLOSED 1228 OF 24. SO ALL THE NOTICES WERE GOING TO THE SELLER. AND WE'RE JUST GETTING THESE NOW. SO A LITTLE BIT OF A SURPRISE. OUR BUSINESS, UNLIKE A LOT OF THE INSTITUTIONALLY OWNED PEOPLE HERE IN THE ROOM, SUPPORTS EIGHT EMPLOYEES AND ROUGHLY 25 CHILDREN. EVERY DEAL WE MAKE GOES DIRECTLY TO US. ALL OF OUR MONEY IS COMING FROM LOCAL HERE IN DFW. SO THERE'S PENSION FUNDS, ALL THAT STUFF. BUT I'M A DECISION MAKER, SO WHEN THINGS LIKE THIS OCCUR, IT GREATLY AFFECTS OUR BUSINESS. SO I ALSO WANT TO TAKE THE LAST COUPLE PEOPLE HERE WHO TALKED ABOUT PROPERTIES THAT WERE SMALLER THAN 25,000 SQUARE FOOT REQUIREMENT. I'M AN ODDBALL. MY PROPERTY IS NOT A SECOND GEN SPACE. IT MIGHT NOT EVEN BE A THIRD GEN SPACE. IT'S PROBABLY A FOURTH GEN SPACE. IT'S ROUGHLY 43,000FT, BUILT IN 1970. IT LOOKS LIKE A PILE OF GARBAGE, BUT WE BOUGHT IT BECAUSE WE WANTED TO ENHANCE IT. IT'S METAL. IT'S GOT SOME RUST ON. IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD, PROBABLY, I DON'T KNOW, 10 TO 30,000 PEOPLE DRIVE BY IT EVERY MONTH OR EVERY DAY. I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THE WHAT THE WHAT THE, THE VOLUME IS, BUT WE BOUGHT IT WITH A MISSION TO KIND OF ENHANCE IT, REPAINT IT. I'VE ALREADY GOT A QUOTE TO GO DO THAT, BUT OUR TENANTS ARE A PAIN IN THE BUT THEY DON'T RESPOND TO OUR EMAILS. THEY DON'T RESPOND TO OUR PHONE CALLS. IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO COLLECT RENT. THEIR PROPERTY HAS NO COS PERIOD. END OF STORY. THIS IS AN ISSUE FOR US BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHO'S COMING IN NEXT. I CAN KICK ALL THE TENANTS OUT, UPGRADE IT. YOU GUYS ARE HAPPY. I PUT IN SOME TREES. IT LOOKS GREAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHO'S COMING NEXT. COULD BE A WAREHOUSE OR DISTRIBUTION GUY. IT COULD BE AN AUTO GUY. IT COULD BE PENSKE. IT COULD REALLY BE ANYBODY, I DON'T KNOW, BUT IF I'M GOING TO SPEND 20 OR 30,000 BUCKS AND LANDSCAPING AND ALL THESE ENHANCEMENTS, AND I GOT TO GO THROUGH AN SUV SIMILAR TO WHAT OTHER PEOPLE SAID, IT TAKES A WHILE TO GET ONE. I'M OKAY WITH IT. IT IS WHAT IT IS. YOU GUYS HAVE TO DO QUALITY CONTROL, BUT IN THE SPACE I PLAY IN, I'VE GOT 43,000FT. I GET TO MANAGE THE PROPERTY IN FOUR DIFFERENT QUADRANTS. RIGHT NOW IT'S DIVIDED INTO SIX. IT'S NOT FUNCTIONAL, IT DOESN'T WORK. IT LOOKS REALLY BAD. BUT IF I DIVIDE IT INTO TWO INTO TWO, 22 MORE OR LESS RIGHT IT THOSE TENANTS COME AND GO QUICK. IF THEY CAN'T COME AND SIGN A LEASE AND GET IN THE SPACE WITHIN 30 TO 60 DAYS, THEY'RE GOING TO GO ON TO THE NEXT GUY. SO YOU'RE PUTTING OUR PROPERTY AT RISK. YOU'RE PUTTING ME AT RISK. YOU'RE PUTTING THEM AT PUTTING ME AT RISK FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO HOLD A DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE RATIO WITH MY LENDER. SO IT JUST IT ADDS COMPLICATION. WAREHOUSES ARE SIMPLE. THEY'RE FOUR WALLS AND A ROOF. GENERALLY THAT'S OFFICE BUILDINGS ARE HARD. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THEM. I DON'T WANT TO EVER UNDERSTAND THEM. BUT WHAT WE DO IS SIMPLE. WE TRY TO KEEP IT SIMPLE. THIS MAKES IT MORE COMPLICATED BECAUSE IT'S UNKNOWN. SO I BOUGHT A PROPERTY WITH THE GOAL TO ENHANCE IT, AND THIS IS CAUSING UNKNOWN ISSUES. I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT'S COMING NEXT, SO CAN'T REALLY PROJECT THAT'S NOT REALLY HEALTHY, BUT THAT'S WHERE ME AND MY PARTNERS ARE AT. SO JUST VOICING CONCERNS BECAUSE I'M THE TWEENER, I'M THE GUY WHO'S NOT SUB 25,000FT. I'M NOT HIM AND I'M NOT THE BIG GUY OUT OF NEW YORK. I'M RIGHT IN BETWEEN. SO THAT'S ALL I REALLY GOT TO SAY. [03:00:06] I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S GOT ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY COMMENTS, BUT THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL. THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME. ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANY SPEAKERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I JUST HAVE A COUPLE COMMENTS, MAYOR, IF YOU PLEASE. SO FIRST OFF, RICHARD, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TEAM'S HARD WORK ON THIS. WE COULD HAVE MADE IT VERY SIMPLE AND GONE WITH THE FIRST ITERATION THAT WE HAD. BLUNT FORCE BEEN DONE. NO AMBIGUITY, BUT I THINK TRYING TO GO THROUGH AND CLARIFY AND LISTEN AND PAY ATTENTION TO THE CARVE OUTS, THAT MADE A LOT OF SENSE. THERE'S SOME PEOPLE HERE WHO JUST MAYBE NOT HERE ANYMORE, JUST GOT CONFUSED FOR SOME REASON. BUT THAT WASN'T A THAT WAS AN ATTEMPT TO TRY TO MAKE THINGS BETTER. SO I APPRECIATE YOU LEANING IN FOR THAT. AND REAL QUICK, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD A GREAT A GREAT SLIDE UP THAT SHOWED HOW ALL THE FLEXIBILITY, LIGHT INTENSITY, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. I'M SORRY. SO JUST JUST REAL QUICK YOU HAVE ACCESSORY BUILDING, ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, ACCESSORY USE CEMETERY OUTSIDE STORAGE, SOLAR ENERGY, WIND ENERGY, ANIMAL CARE, VETERINARY COMMUNITY CENTERS, PARKS, SCHOOLS, BREWERIES. THERE'S A LOT YOU CAN DO WITH LIGHT. WITH LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, A WHOLE BUNCH. THIS IS ONE USE OF THAT. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY ANOTHER 30 ON HERE. AND THEN IF I GO IN AND LOOK, THE CONCEPT OF NEEDING SUPP FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IS NOT NEW. IF YOU LOOK AT OUR IF YOU LOOK AT THE, YOU KNOW, THE CODE YOU NEED, YOU NEED FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, FOR COMMERCIAL, FOR MANUFACTURING MEDIUM INTENSITY DWELLING UNIT BAR, FOOD TRUCK PARTS KIOSKS. IT GOES ON AND ON AND ON. SO THE CONCEPT OF AN SUPP IS NOT A NEW CONCEPT FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. SO I THINK THIS MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. I THINK IT WOULD BE UNREASONABLE TO ASK THIS COUNCIL WHAT WHAT WE COULD EXPECT IN 50 YEARS AND TRY TO SET GUIDANCE FOR THE 2075 COUNCIL, JUST LIKE IT WAS UNREASONABLE TO EXPECT THAT THE 1975 COUNCIL WOULD HAVE ANY IDEA THAT WE'D HAVE INTERNET, THAT WE'D HAVE A GROWTH, WE'D HAVE COVID COME BUMP UP THE DEMAND FOR WAREHOUSES. THEY HAD NO WAY OF SEEING THAT COMING. SO THAT THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. MAYOR. OTHER COMMENTS. RICHARD, I DID HAVE ONE. ONE OF OUR SPEAKERS MENTIONED THAT IT NEEDED TO REFERENCE A TABLE THAT THE ORDINANCE NEEDED TO REFERENCE THE TABLE OR SHOULD. DID YOU CATCH THAT? I BELIEVE THAT THERE HAS BEEN SEVERAL STAKEHOLDERS THAT WE SPOKE WITH AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL SECTION 24 THAT IS BEING RECOMMENDED FOR AMENDMENTS. THIS IS ONE OF 24 SUPPLEMENTAL STANDARDS. SO CHAPTER THREE ADDRESSES SUPPLEMENTAL STANDARDS FOR ALL 24 CATEGORIES. THIS IS JUST ONE CATEGORY OF THOSE 24. AND IT STATES VERY CLEARLY THAT PART OF THE OF THE CODE THAT IF YOU CANNOT MEET ALL OF THE SUPPLEMENTAL STANDARDS, THEN YOU CAN YOU CAN REQUEST AN SUPP FOR AN ALTERNATIVE. OKAY. YOU. COUNCIL IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MR. MAYOR, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND COUNCIL. PLEASE VOTE. COUNCIL VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. COUNCIL? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE AS SET FORTH IN THE CAPTION, WITH THE ADDITION OF THE SUBSECTIONS AS PRESENTED IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE COMMENTS. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND CITY ATTORNEY. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE OF THE LEWISVILLE CITY COUNCIL AMENDING ARTICLE SEVEN USES PARKING REQUIREMENTS, SUPPLEMENTAL USE REGULATIONS, AND CERTAIN DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS OF VOLUME TWO OF THE LEWISVILLE CITY CODE, KNOWN AS THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, BY AMENDING CHAPTER 7.3, SUPPLEMENTAL USE REGULATIONS, SECTION 7.3.2 FOR MANUFACTURING LIGHT INTENSITY MANUFACTURING, MEDIUM INTENSITY MANUFACTURING, HEAVY INTENSITY, AND WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION FACILITY TO PROHIBIT SUCH USES FROM LOCATING ON A PROPERTY WITHIN 500FT OF PROPERTIES CONTAINING CERTAIN OTHER USES WITHOUT A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN EXCEPTIONS, AND AMENDING EXHIBIT 7.23 FOR NONRESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS TO CLARIFY APPLICABILITY OF SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUIREMENTS FOR SUCH USES IN CERTAIN ZONING DISTRICTS. PROVIDING FOR A SAVINGS CLAUSE AND REPEALER. SEVERABILITY A PENALTY AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE DECLARING AN EMERGENCY. COUNCIL IF YOU PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. I WANT TO I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR TAKING THE TIME AND BEING HERE AND YOUR COMMENTS. IF YOU HAVE FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, PLEASE REACH OUT TO CITY STAFF OR TO CITY COUNCIL. AND WE'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TAKE THOSE UNDER ADVISEMENT. ANY. YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER TWO CONSIDERATION OF AN [03:05:18] ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR LICENSED MASSAGE THERAPY ON A PORTION OF A 1.1601 ACRE TRACT LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS LOT TWO, BLOCK A, LEWISVILLE PLAZA, PHASE TWO, LOCATED AT 1010 EDMONDS LANE, SUITE 107, IS ZONED LOCAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AS REQUESTED BY YANGZHOU MASSAGE ON BEHALF OF JAY MAHARAJ LLC, THE PROPERTY OWNER, CASE NUMBER 24 1221 SUP. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING IT TO OPERATE A LICENSED MASSAGE THERAPY BUSINESS IN A SPACE WHERE THE PREVIOUS BUSINESS OWNER AND ANOTHER PERSON WAS ARRESTED WITH FOUR COMBINED CHARGES RELATED TO PROSTITUTION, PER SECTION 7.2.23 OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, A SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS REQUIRED. IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED DENIAL SEVEN TO NOTHING ON JANUARY 21ST, 2025, DUE TO THE RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL. AN AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OF AT LEAST THREE FOURTHS OF ALL MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL IS REQUIRED TO APPROVE THE SUP. IT'S RECOMMENDED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DENY THE ORDINANCE AS SET FORTH IN THE CAPTION ABOVE. MR. RICHARD LIEDTKE, OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR, IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS IS NOW OPEN. MAYOR, I DID WANT TO ADD SOMETHING TO THE RECORD BEFORE WE GOT STARTED. I KNOW THERE WAS REFERENCES REFERENCED TO A REQUEST FOR INFORMATION FROM THE FLOWER MOUND POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE DID NOT. I THINK THEY'VE SUBMITTED THAT TO THE. ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE FOR REVIEW OF THAT OPEN RECORDS REQUEST. STAFF HAS FOUND ANOTHER REVIEW. IT'S THROUGH AMP. REVIEWS DOT NET, AND I CANNOT CONFIRM WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS ACCURATE, BUT IT DOES LOOK LIKE THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS FROM THE PUBLIC THAT ARE WRITING REVIEWS OF THE APPLICANT'S SPA THAT'S CURRENTLY LOCATED IN FLOWER MOUND, THAT IS, IDENTIFYING THAT THERE ARE SEXUAL ACTIVITIES HAPPENING THERE. IS THERE NOT A SPEAKER FOR THIS ITEM? I DO HAVE A SPEAKER. WE HAVE YANG YANZHAO AND RUSTY CHEW AND MY APOLOGIES. THAT'S THAT'S NOT MY FIRST LANGUAGE. SO I'VE GOTTEN YOUR NAMES, I APOLOGIZE. THEY HAVE FROM CROSS TIMBERS AND CORINTH LANE IN FLOWER MOUND AND FRISCO. THEY ARE HERE TO SPEAK. ABOUT. ZERO FOR CROSS TIMBERS THREE NUMBER 126 FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS. BUT ALSO I HAVE A NAME CALLED COCO, SO YOU CAN FIND MY NAME ON GOOGLE ON REVIEWS SPA IN FLOWER MOUND. THANK YOU. AND MY NAME IS RUSTY CHOO. ADDRESS IS 9915 CORINTH LANE IN FRISCO, TEXAS. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. TO SPEAK TO TODAY. THIS EVENING WE ATTENDED THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 21ST OF JANUARY. AFTER WE WENT THROUGH A FEW ROUNDS OF QUESTION AND ANSWER OF COMPLIANCE REQUEST AND WE AGREED TO MEET ALL THE ALL THE REQUESTS. AND ALSO WE ADDED A FEW MORE, EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE NOT REQUESTED. FOR EXAMPLE, DURING OPERATION, ALL DOORS, THE MASSAGE ROOMS WILL BE OPEN JUST AS THEY ARE BEING OPENED IN THE CURRENT ESTABLISHMENT IN FLOWER MOUND. SO I WOULD LIKE TO. BEFORE PROCEEDING, I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THAT ON THAT REVIEW. MR. ESTABLISHMENT IN FLOWER MOUND, SHE OPERATES THE ESTABLISHMENT WITH ALL THE DOORS OPEN. AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO DISREGARD THE REVIEWS BECAUSE AFTER ALL, THIS IS A FREE WORLD. EVERYBODY CAN SAY WHATEVER, I CAN GO, GO TO THE PLATFORM AND SAY, THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES CAME TO VISIT TOO, SO IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE. BUT ANYWAY, EVEN THOUGH EVEN THOUGH THE COMPLIANCE REQUESTS ARE MET, THE [03:10:03] PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DECIDED TO VOTE A DENIAL. OUR OPINION IS THAT THE DENIAL IS GROUNDLESS, UNSUBSTANTIATED AND BIASED BECAUSE IT'S ALL BASED ON ASSUMPTIONS. AND WE COME TO YOU TODAY TO GIVE YOU FACTS AND NOT ASSUMPTIONS. AND I ALREADY DISTRIBUTED THE THREE LICENSES FOR MISSILE. SHE GOT LICENSED A PERSONAL MASSAGE LICENSE IN JANUARY 2024, AND ANOTHER ESTABLISHMENT LICENSE FOR HER CURRENT ESTABLISHMENT IN OCTOBER 24TH, AND SHE ALSO OBTAINED A ESTABLISHMENT LICENSE IN JANUARY 25TH FOR THE INTENDED VENUE. 1010 SOUTH EDMONDS. HAVING SAID THAT, I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT EVERY LICENSE APPROVAL HAS TO GO THROUGH RIGOROUS BACKGROUND CHECK BY THE STATE, AND THESE ARE FACTS. THESE ARE NOT ASSUMPTIONS. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO TELL YOU THAT THE REASON THAT MR. ZHAO WANTS TO OBTAIN THIS ESTABLISHMENT AT 1010 SOUTH EDMONDS IS BECAUSE OF COST ONLY, NOT BECAUSE OF THE CLIENTELE. RIGHT NOW SHE IS PAYING OVER $4,000 OF RENT FOR LESS THAN 1000FT■!S AT HER FLOWER MOUND. SHOP, AND HER INTENTION IS TO GET THIS ESTABLISHMENT IN LEWISVILLE AND IMMEDIATELY SELL HER SHOP, BECAUSE IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO AFFORD. AND ON ANOTHER NOTE, THAT IT'S PERSONAL, BUT. I GOT HER CONSENT. SHE'S DIVORCED AND SHE DOESN'T HAVE CUSTODY OF HER TWO UNDERAGE CHILDREN, AND SHE OPERATES. SHE KNOWS SHE UNDERSTANDS VERY WELL THIS BUSINESS CAN BE SHADY AND SHE WORKS VERY CAREFULLY. THAT'S WHY SHE MAKES SURE THAT THERE'S NO FOUL PLAY. BECAUSE ANY FOUL PLAY, SHE'LL LOSE VISITATION TO HER KIDS. SO. AM I OUT OF TIME? YOU ARE. BUT YOU BOTH FILLED OUT CARDS, SO I'LL. I'LL. I'M SORRY YOU ARE OUT OF TIME, BUT YOU BOTH FILLED OUT CARDS. SO IF YOU'RE SPEAKING ON HER BEHALF, I UNDERSTAND. OKAY? AND. THE CITY ALLOWS HER TO OPEN AN SGP APPLICATION AND PAY CLOSE TO $800,000 FEE WITHOUT KNOWING THAT THERE IS A PREDETERMINATION THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE APPROVED. THE LAST IN THE LAST PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. THAT LADY, WE DIDN'T GET THE NAME, SHE SAID. IT'S NOT REALLY YOU, IT'S THE IS THE PLACE. SO MEANING THAT THE PLACE IS GOING TO BE DENIED. SO WHY ARE ACCEPT A SUP APPLICATION AND TAKES $800 OF FEES AND THEN GO THROUGH ALL THESE THINGS BACK AND FORTH QUESTIONS AND YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO DENY ANYWAY WITHOUT CONSIDERATION. SO. I THINK A DENIAL IS GOING TO HURT THE LANDLORD. ALSO, IT'S GOING TO HURT A GOOD BUSINESS PERSON WITH INTEGRITY, A LAW ABIDING BUSINESS PERSON. AND. I WOULD LIKE TO URGE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS TO CONSIDER AND GRANT APPROVAL FOR HER SGP APPLICATION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ACTUALLY. SO I WAS READING THROUGH YOUR YOUR LETTER HERE TO P AND Z, AND I'M CURIOUS HOW YOU CAME ACROSS THIS BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE IT SAYS YOU HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE AND NEVER MET MISS TAO BEFORE. THE CURRENT OWNER OF THE TOP MASSAGE. SO HOW DID YOU COME ACROSS THIS OPPORTUNITY? THE CURRENT WELL, THE SELLER ADVERTISED ON SOME [03:15:07] SOCIAL MEDIA BECAUSE SHE WAS SELLING THE BUSINESS. OKAY, SO YOU MENTIONED BEFORE THAT YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING. ANYBODY CAN SAY ANYTHING, RIGHT? YOU SAID NOW'S YOUR OPPORTUNITY. WE ASKED FOR A, WE ASKED FOR A WE FILED A FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUEST TO GET THE ARREST DOCUMENTS FROM GAJAH. NOW'S YOUR CHANCE. TELL US WHAT HAPPENED. I'M NOT SURE IF I UNDERSTAND YOU. SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE WAS A. THERE WAS A POLICE REPORT MADE OUT. MAYBE IT WAS AN ARREST. THERE'S A POLICE REPORT MADE OUT AT GAJAH. CORRECT. CAN I CAN I CLARIFY? YES, PLEASE. THERE WAS A COMPLAINT, MADE A COMPLAINT. OKAY. BUT WE COULDN'T WE COULDN'T GET ANY. THAT DOCUMENTATION. CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO US WHAT HAPPENED, WHAT THAT COMPLAINT WAS ABOUT? SO ON THE. THEN WE GOT SOME SOME POLICE REPORTS. THEY. SHE SHE DOESN'T SHE HAS NO KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT THE REPORT WAS ABOUT BECAUSE SHE WAS SHE WAS NEVER APPROACHED, NOT EVEN A PHONE CALL FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. I MEAN, LAST AFTER AFTER THE LAST HEARING WHEN WE WERE STANDING OUTSIDE, SHE WAS ACTUALLY VERY MAD BECAUSE SHE SAID IF. ALLEGATION A CRIME LIKE THAT IS VERY SERIOUS, WHY DIDN'T THE POLICE EVEN CALL OR VISIT OR, OR ASK HER TO GO TO THE POLICE STATION AND ANSWER, NO, THERE'S NO, NO POLICE. SO THE REPORT WAS SO SENSITIVE THAT WE CAN'T GET A FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT FULFILLED. OH, WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO GET THE REPORT, BUT YOU HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF THIS. WE KNOW. HAVE YOU GONE TO THE POLICE AND ASKED THEM ABOUT IT? SHE DID, SHE DID. YEAH. BECAUSE SINCE YOU WEREN'T ABLE TO GET IT, SHE WENT ACTUALLY WENT TO FLOWER MOUND TO TRY TO GET WHAT THAT WAS AND THEY WOULDN'T GIVE IT TO HER. THEY GAVE MICHELLE A COPY BY EMAIL. DO WE HAVE A COPY OF THAT OF THAT REPORT? AND I KIND OF READ IT AND IT'S NOT IT'S NOT IT DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING. WELL, IT WAS SO SENSITIVE THEY WOULDN'T GIVE IT TO US. SO DOES SOMEBODY ON STAFF HAVE A COPY OF THIS REPORT THAT WE DON'T KNOW OF? I AM BERRY MAN. THEY MICHELLE BERRY HAS A COPY, BUT WE JUST SENT IT TO HER BEFORE THEN THE PUBLIC HEARING STARTED. SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS QUESTION. THE WHY THIS LOCATION? YOU SAID IT WAS FOR COST REASONS, BUT IT'S A KNOWN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A CERTAIN KIND OF CLIENTELE BECAUSE THIS IS KNOWN. YOU CAN YOU CAN SAY THAT THE THINGS THAT YOU SEE ON THE REVIEWS OUT THERE ARE FALSE, BUT YOU GOT A CERTAIN KIND OF CLIENTELE THAT'S GOING TO COME THERE ANYWAY. IF I'M A BUSINESS OWNER AND I'M GOING TO GO SOMEWHERE AND THERE'S BEEN THREE ROBBERIES THERE, I'M PROBABLY GOING TO OPEN UP A SHOP WHERE THERE'S BEEN THREE ROBBERIES. SO WHY? WHY THIS SHOP? WHY THIS LOCATION? STRICTLY COST. THE PLACE HAS BEEN CLOSED FOR, I DON'T KNOW FOR HOW LONG ALREADY. AND SHE DOESN'T KNOW. WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH LONGER. WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT BEFORE IT CAN BE REOPENED. IF APPROVED. SO I THINK THESE CLIENTS, WHOEVER, WHOEVER WENT THERE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY, WOULD PROBABLY GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. THERE ARE FOUR ARRESTS, I BELIEVE. RIGHT. FOUR ARRESTS. I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT IT SAID ON THE THREE, THREE ARRESTS. DO WE KNOW THE TIME FRAME FOR THAT? I'M TRYING TO EXTRAPOLATE OUT HOW MANY CLIENTS WE MIGHT. THREE. THAT INCLUDED THE OWNER. OKAY. AWESOME. OKAY. AND THEN ONE FINAL QUESTION. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO ANYBODY ELSE WHO HAS QUESTIONS HERE. THE HOURS OF OPERATION THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING IS TO CLOSE AT WHAT, EIGHT I THINK 830, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO CURRENTLY IN YOUR FLOWER MOUND LOCATION, YOU'RE OPEN MUCH LATER THAN THAT. WHY ARE YOU OPEN TO 10 P.M. ON FRIDAY, SATURDAY AND SUNDAY NIGHT? MONDAY TO. THAT'S BECAUSE THERE'S A FOOD STORE. USUALLY WE SAY 10 P.M, BUT USUALLY WE CLOSE AT 9 P.M. NOT BECAUSE THE FLOOR MOUNTED LIKE SOME. LIKE SOME PLACES THE PEOPLE COME LATE. BUT IN FLORIDA, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY ACTUALLY THE STORES USUALLY CLOSE VERY EARLY AND THE PEOPLE IS VERY HIGH QUALITY PEOPLE. THEY GO TO THE BED VERY EARLY ACTUALLY, WE 9:00 UNTIL LIKE THIS WEEKEND, IT'S ONE WEEKEND. WE STAYED UNTIL 10 P.M. BECAUSE WE HAVE STILL HAVE CLIENTS CALL OUR APPOINTMENTS, BUT USUALLY IF WE DON'T HAVE APPOINTMENTS CALL LIKE RIGHT NOW IT'S ALREADY CLOSED. 9 P.M. WE'RE CLOSED. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS OR [03:20:06] COMMENTS? I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. WE'LL GO AHEAD. WELL I WAS I, I DID WANT TO REITERATE THAT, YOU KNOW, I, I ACTUALLY I'M NOT OPPOSED TO APPROVING AN SUP FOR A LEGITIMATE MASSAGE BUSINESS. SO I JUST WANT TO I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I WILL SAY ONE THING THAT CONCERNS ME IN THIS OPEN RECORDS REQUEST, THE RESPONSE THAT WE GOT FROM THE CITY'S ATTORNEY WAS THAT IT SAYS THE TOWN BELIEVES THE RESPONSIVE INFORMATION IS HIGHLY INTIMATE OR EMBARRASSING, SUCH THAT THE RELEASE WOULD BE HIGHLY OBJECTIONABLE TO A PERSON OF ORDINARY SENSIBILITIES AND OF NO LEGITIMATE PUBLIC INTEREST. THAT CONCERNS ME, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME THAT ALLEGATIONS MAY HAVE BEEN MADE THAT ARE NOT TRUE. IF THAT IF YOU WERE ABLE TO GET THAT REPORT AND YOU WERE ABLE TO GIVE IT TO STAFF, I WANT TO SEE IT. MICHELLE, I SAW MICHELLE WALK IN THE ROOM. YES, THEY THEY RECEIVED A SIMILAR RESPONSE, STATING THAT WE DID. WHEN THEY ASKED FOR THE OPEN RECORDS REQUEST, THEY RECEIVED A SIMILAR LETTER WITH RESPONSE. OKAY, SO THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND WILL NOT RELEASE THE REPORT TO HER EITHER. YES. THE EMAIL THAT I RECEIVED HAD THE ATTACHMENT THAT WAS THAT SAME STYLE LETTER THAT JUST SAID THEY'RE NOT RELEASING THE REPORT. WE ALSO WOULD LIKE THE REPORT TO BE DISCLOSED TO BECAUSE WE WANT WE ALSO WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. I MEAN, I THINK FOR ME PERSONALLY, WITHOUT SEEING THAT REPORT, IT'S ALMOST I MEAN, IF THERE'S A REPORT THAT COULD BE RECEIVED THAT WOULD EXONERATE, YOU KNOW, THE ALLEGATIONS COMPLETELY. I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S PRETTY IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO HAVE. I DON'T FEEL I WOULDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE APPROVING AN SUP WITHOUT SEEING THAT, BECAUSE WHAT I'M SEEING FROM THE ATTORNEY, AND ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THE FLOWER MOUND, WILL NOT RELEASE THE REPORT TO YOU EITHER, EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE THE BUSINESS OWNER. THAT'S A LITTLE MORE CONCERNING AS WELL. ABOUT WHAT WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED. WHAT WHAT? AND THAT IS MORE THAN JUST A REVIEW ONLINE BECAUSE I REALIZE REVIEW ONLINE, YOU HAVE TO TAKE THAT FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. ANYBODY CAN GO SAY ANYTHING IF THEY'RE UNHAPPY ABOUT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED. BUT WHEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS INVOLVED, THAT CONCERNS ME MORE. SO I, I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT REPORT. MAYOR. A REVIEW ONLINE SUCH AS YELP OR YAHOO REVIEW BECAUSE SOMEONE IS UNHAPPY WITH YOU IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN THE REVIEWS THAT I FOUND. WITH. WITH YOUR EXISTING ESTABLISHMENT LISTED, YOU THEY THEY DON'T. THEY'RE THAT'S NIGHT AND DAY. THEY RATE THE GIRLS. THEY TALK ABOUT HAPPY ENDINGS. THEY GO ALL OUT DISCUSSING THIS. I STOPPED AT SIX AT SIX SITES. THE LETTER THAT YOU HAVE TALKS ABOUT TAKING OVER THE LOCATION. IT DOESN'T TALK ABOUT MOVING YOUR BUSINESS. IT TALKS ABOUT TAKING OVER THAT LOCATION. I CAN ONLY ASSUME THAT THERE MAY BE EXISTING CLIENTELE BECAUSE I WENT AND MATCHED UP SOME NAMES AND THEY CROSS. SO YOU'RE RIGHT, ANYBODY CAN SAY ANYTHING, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY WANT SOMETHING AND I'M NOT BUYING IT. IF YOU WANT TO OPEN A LEGIT MASSAGE, FOOT SPA OR WHATEVER, BUY HER OUT AND OPEN IT IN ANOTHER LOCATION THAT YOU DON'T NEED AN SUV IN. BUT THERE IS NO WAY I WOULD EVER VOTE FOR AN SUP RIGHT NOW. BUT WE KIND OF EXPECTED THAT BECAUSE. BECAUSE IT'S A PREDETERMINATION. NO, IT'S NOT A PREDETERMINATION. IT IS. IT IS NOT, SIR. IT IS, IT IS, IT IS. WE ARE PREPARED. WE ARE PREPARED. BUT. I THINK IT'S ABSURD THAT SHE WILL. SHE GOES SOMEWHERE AND IT'S THE SAME OLD HER, AND IT WILL BE APPROVED. BUT OVER THERE IS NOT APPROVED. I ALREADY SAID IT'S BECAUSE OF COST. GOING SOMEWHERE? REMODEL A BRAND NEW PLACE. IT WILL TAKE 60 OR $70,000 MINIMUM. BUT GOING IN HERE IS $10,000. THAT'S THE ONLY REASON. THANK YOU SIR. AND THE RENT IS ONLY $1,500. BUT. BUT [03:25:09] YOUR PREDETERMINATION, I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU. SIR, I DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION, MAYOR. I'M SORRY. SO. AND THIS IS IN. SO I WENT OUT TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE SITE FOR TEXAS HERE. AND I WAS LOOKING TO TRY TO FIND WHO OWNS WHAT. AND IT LOOKS LIKE. AND AGAIN, I REALIZE THAT'S FAIRLY COMMON FOR A NAME, BUT I SEE A FOOT MASSAGE, LLC THAT THE REGISTERED AGENT WAS ACCOUNTING AND TAX SERVICES. DO YOU KNOW WHO THAT IS? I THINK I RECOGNIZE THIS ACCOUNTING FIRM. THEY THEY OPENED LLC FOR AND COMPANIES FOR BUSINESSES. SO WAS THIS THIS GEAGEA THAT I SAW ON THE SECRETARY OF STATE SITE. IT WAS SHUT DOWN IN 2002. YEAH. OKAY. AND THEN IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS REOPENED AGAIN IN RIGHT AFTER THAT WITH A GROUP CALLED ENHANCED HEALTH LLC. DO YOU KNOW WHO THAT IS? LLC? THIS IS WHAT'S CONFUSING TO ME BECAUSE THE YOUNG ZHANGZHOU, IT SHOWS AS A MANAGER, BUT IT SHOWS THAT THE GOVERNING BODY IS ENHANCED HEALTH LLC OUT OF FLORIDA. I'M JUST WONDERING WHO THAT IS. IT MIGHT. YEAH. SHE SHE JUST SAID I'M TRANSLATING BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW SHE BOUGHT THE BUSINESS. SO IT WAS IT WAS PREVIOUSLY MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENT AND SHE BOUGHT IT FROM SOMEONE. AND SHE ENGAGED JONES ACCOUNTING FIRM. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNSEL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF THERE ARE NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MR. MAYOR, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND COUNCIL. PLEASE VOTE. THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES SIX TO NOTHING. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL. ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO DENY OR APPROVE THE ORDINANCE AS SET FORTH IN THE CAPTION. MAYOR, I MOVE TO DENY. SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. CITY ATTORNEY. THAT'S ONLY IF ORDINANCE IS APPROVED. WOULD HELP IF I READ THE PARENTHETICAL. I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND TO DENY. WITH THAT BEING THE CASE, PLEASE VOTE COUNCIL. MOTION PASSES TO DENY A SIX TO NOTHING. ITEM THREE PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION. AN ORDINANCE OF THE LOUISVILLE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTING STANDARDS OF CARE FOR YOUTH RECREATION PROGRAMS OR REPEALING AND REPLACING ARTICLE SIX STANDARDS OF CARE FOR YOUTH RECREATION PROGRAMS OF CHAPTER TEN PARKS AND RECREATION OF THE LOUISVILLE CITY CODE, WITH A NEW ARTICLE SIX STANDARDS OF CARE FOR YOUTH RECREATION PROGRAMS AND SETTING FORTH OTHER PROVISIONS APPLICABLE TO THE STANDARDS OF CARE AND FURTHER AMENDING CHAPTER TEN PARK AND REC PARKS AND RECREATION OF THE LOUISVILLE CITY CODE BY AMENDING ARTICLE ONE. IN GENERAL, TO CLARIFY THE DEFINITION OF CITY APPROVED LEAGUE PLAY OR ATHLETIC EVENT, AND AMENDING ARTICLE THREE PARKS AND AMENDING THE AREAS WHERE CONSUMPTION OR POSSESSION OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES ON PARK PROPERTY IS ALLOWED. PROVIDING FOR A SAVINGS CLAUSE, REPEALER SEVERABILITY AND EFFECTIVE DATE AND DECLARING AN EMERGENCY AND CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF CHANGES TO CITY POLICY STATEMENT 4.0. CHAPTER TEN OF THE CITY CODE OF ORDINANCES DEFINES GUIDELINES AND DUTIES FOR THE PARKS BOARD LISTS. CURFEW PROHIBITS PROHIBITED ACTS WITHIN THE PARK SYSTEM. PARKS AND FACILITIES WHERE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES ARE ALLOWED. CREATES LOCAL STANDARDS OF CARE FOR YOUTH PROGRAMING, AMONG OTHER THINGS. SEVERAL UPDATES TO THE CHAPTER WERE ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL ON JANUARY 2022, WITH UPDATES TO STANDARDS OF CARE FOR YOUTH PROGRAMING OCCURRING IN MAY 2023 AND MARCH 2024. IN ORDER TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH UPDATES TO FEDERAL AND STATE REGULATIONS, AS WELL AS KEEP PACE WITH EMERGING RECREATION TRENDS AND ADDRESS ISSUES THAT COMPROMISE THE INTEGRITY OF THE PARK SYSTEM, THE DEPARTMENT REVIEWS AND PROPOSES UPDATES TO THE CHAPTER REGULARLY. IT'S RECOMMENDED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE ORDINANCE AND POLICY STATEMENT AS SET FORTH IN THE CAPTION ABOVE, AND WE DO HAVE OUR DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION, MISS STACY ANAYA, AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS IS NOW OPEN. I HAVE NO COMMENT CARDS ON THIS COUNCIL. IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. COUNCIL. PLEASE VOTE. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. IT PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. COUNCIL. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MOVE TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE AND POLICY STATEMENT AS SET FORTH IN THE CAPTION. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND AND NO PARENTHETICAL. SO, CITY ATTORNEY, THIS IS AN ORDINANCE OF THE LOUISVILLE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTING STANDARDS OF CARE FOR YOUTH RECREATIONAL PROGRAMS BY REPEALING AND REPLACING ARTICLE SIX STANDARDS OF CARE FOR YOUTH RECREATION PROGRAMS OF CHAPTER TEN PARKS AND RECREATION OF THE LOUISVILLE [03:30:02] CITY CODE, WITH A NEW ARTICLE SIX STANDARDS OF CARE FOR YOUTH RECREATION PROGRAMS AND SETTING FORTH OTHER PROVISIONS APPLICABLE TO THE STANDARDS OF CARE, AND FURTHER AMENDING CHAPTER TEN PARKS AND RECREATION OF THE LOUISVILLE CITY CODE BY AMENDING ARTICLE ONE. IN GENERAL, TO CLARIFY THE DEFINITION OF CITY APPROVED LEAGUE PLAY OR ATHLETIC EVENT, AND AMENDING ARTICLE THREE PARKS AND AMENDING THE AREAS WHERE CONSUMPTION OR POSSESSION OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES ON PARK PROPERTY IS ALLOWED. PROVIDING FOR A SAVINGS CLAUSE, REPEALER SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND DECLARING AN EMERGENCY COUNCIL IF YOU PLEASE VOTE. [I. Regular Hearing] MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM I REGULAR HEARING 13. CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ACQUISITION OF RIGHT OF WAY AND EASEMENTS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION, ACCESS AND MAINTENANCE OF MIDWAY BRANCH FORCE MAIN. THE PROJECT DETERMINING THE PUBLIC USE AND PUBLIC NECESSITY OF SUCH ACQUISITION. AUTHORIZING THE APPOINTMENT OF AN APPRAISER AND NEGOTIATOR AS NECESSARY. AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER OR DESIGNEE TO ESTABLISH JUST COMPENSATION FOR THE PROPERTY RIGHTS TO BE ACQUIRED IN ACCORDANCE WITH ALL LAWS AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER OR HER DESIGNEE TO TAKE STEPS NECESSARY TO ACQUIRE THE NEEDED PROPERTY RIGHTS AND COMPLIANCE WITH ALL APPLICABLE LAWS AND RESOLUTIONS, AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY ATTORNEY OR HER DESIGNEE TO INSTITUTE CONDEMNATION PROCEEDINGS TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY RIGHTS OF PURCHASE NEGOTIATIONS ARE NOT SUCCESSFUL, PROVIDING FOR REPEALING SAVINGS AND SEVERABILITY CLAUSES AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THE CITY ENTERED INTO A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH BIRKHOFF, HENDRIX AND CARTER LLP ON APRIL 15TH, 2024 TO DESIGN THE MIDWAY BRANCH FORCE MAIN PROJECT. THE PROJECT IS A CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT THAT WILL ENHANCE THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE'S WASTEWATER COLLECTION SYSTEM TO MEET CURRENT AND FUTURE GROWTH DEMANDS. THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION INVOLVES 23,000 LINEAR FEET OF 30 INCH SANITARY SEWER FORCE MAIN, CONNECTING THE MIDWAY BRANCH LIFT STATION TO THE CITY'S WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. TO FACILITATE THIS, PROPERTY RIGHTS FROM THREE PARCELS MUST BE SECURED BY A DONATION, PURCHASE OR EMINENT DOMAIN. THE RESOLUTION WILL ENABLE THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY TO NEGOTIATE PROPERTY ACQUISITION OR INITIATE CONDEMNATION PROCEEDINGS IF NECESSARY, ENSURING COMPLIANCE WITH APPLICABLE LAWS AND RESOLUTIONS. IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CONSIDER THE RESOLUTION AS SET FORTH IN THE CAPTION ABOVE BY USING THE FOLLOWING MOTION, WHICH IS PRESCRIBED BY THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, SECTION 2206 .05 3BI MOVE THAT THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE, TEXAS, ADOPT THE RESOLUTION DESCRIBED IN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 13 AND AUTHORIZE THE USE OF THE POWER OF EMINENT DOMAIN TO ACQUIRE FOR PUBLIC USE THE PROPERTIES DESCRIBED DEPICTED IN EXHIBIT A ATTACHED TO THE RESOLUTION SAID DESCRIPTIONS AND DEPICTIONS BEING INCORPORATED INTO THIS MOTION FOR ALL PURPOSES FOR THE CONSTRUCTION, OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF A SANITARY SEWER FORCE. MAIN FROM THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE. MIDWAY BRANCH LIFT STATION NEAR 559 HOLFORD'S PRAIRIE TO THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE. WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AT 897 TREATMENT PLANT ROAD. THE VOTE SHALL APPLY TO ALL UNITS OF PROPERTY WHICH MAY BE CONDEMNED. COUNCIL. IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MAYOR I MOVE THAT THE CITY OF LEWISVILLE, TEXAS, ADOPT THE RESOLUTION DESCRIBED AS AN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER I 13, AND AUTHORIZE THE USE OF THE POWER OF EMINENT DOMAIN TO ACQUIRE FOR PUBLIC USE THE PROPERTIES DESCRIBED AND DEPICTED IN EXHIBIT A, ATTACHED TO THE RESOLUTION, SAID DESCRIPTIONS AND DEPICTIONS BEING INCORPORATED INTO THIS MOTION FOR ALL PURPOSES FOR THE CONSTRUCTION, OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF A SANITARY SEWER FORCE. MAIN FROM THE CITY OF LEWISVILLE. MIDWAY BRANCH LIFT STATION NEAR 559 FIRST PRAIRIE ROAD TO THE CITY OF LEWISVILLE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AT 897 TREATMENT PLANT ROAD. THIS VOTE SHALL APPLY TO ALL UNITS OF PROPERTY WHICH MAY BE CONDEMNED. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND COUNCIL, IF YOU PLEASE, VOTE. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT. ITEM J REPORTS REPORTS [J. Reports] ABOUT ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST REGARDING WHICH NO ACTION WILL BE TAKEN. I HAVE CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF REPORTS ALSO IN OUR PACKETS. WE HAVE OUR QUARTERLY INVESTMENT REPORT FROM OCTOBER 1ST TO DECEMBER 31ST OF 2024. COUNCIL MEMBER MEREDITH. YES, MAYOR? I'VE GOT SOME LIBRARY ACTIVITIES FOR THE WEEK. TWEEN SCENE FOR CHILDREN AGED 9 TO 12. WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 19TH, 430 TO 530. BENNETT PROGRAM ROOM A TICKET IS REQUIRED. TEEN AFTER HOURS HUNGER GAMES PARTY FOR TEENS AGED 13 TO 18. FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 21ST, 630 TO 9. BENNETT CHILDREN'S WING REGISTRATION AND PERMISSION FORM REQUIRED. AND THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCILMEMBER TROYER. YES, MAYOR. I HAVE A NUMBER OF ITEMS FOR THE LOUISVILLE GRAND THEATER. FIRST OF ALL, PERFORMANCES. HELLO, DOLLY! HELLO, DOLLY! PRESENTED BY THE CHRISTIAN YOUTH THEATER OF DFW. FEBRUARY 21ST TO THE 23RD AND FEBRUARY 28TH THROUGH MARCH 2ND WITH TWO SHOWS ON FEBRUARY 22ND AND MARCH 3RD. ACOUSTIC ROCK SONGWRITING CHALLENGE. THAT THE WORD WORD OF THE CHALLENGE IS ROCK. THE SONGWRITING CHALLENGE WILL BE PRESENTED ON FEBRUARY 28TH. IT'S PRESENTED BY THE VISUAL ARTS LEAGUE OF LOUISVILLE. ALWAYS VERY. THESE HAVE TO BE ORIGINAL SONGS THAT [03:35:07] ARE PRESENTED FOR THE PUBLICLY FOR THE FIRST TIME AT THIS PERFORMANCE. SO THERE ARE SOME VERY TALENTED SONGWRITERS, SINGER SONGWRITERS IN THE AREA. AND YOU'D BE YOU'D BE PLEASANTLY AMAZED IF YOU ATTEND ON THE 28TH AND THEN, AS ALWAYS, ON FRIDAY EVENINGS, ACOUSTIC JAM SESSIONS. MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS SONGWRITERS CHALLENGE ARE ON THAT. IN THE JAM SESSION FRIDAYS, AGAIN PRESENTED BY THE VISUAL ART LEAGUE OF LOUISVILLE. ACTIVITIES. YOUTH, TEEN COMMUNITY MUSICAL THEATER WORKSHOP PRESENTED BY OUR PRODUCTIONS THEATER COMPANY ON MARCH 1ST AND A NUMBER OF EXHIBITIONS GOING ON. FIRST OF ALL, 2025 FOR ARTISTS EXHIBITIONS. NON BRUNO LEE AND LEE, PRESENTED BY THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE AND THAT GOES THROUGH MARCH 4TH. BUILDING BRIDGES FOR HOPE TOWARD UNITY, PRESENTED BY THE MLK OF NORTH TEXAS. AND THAT IS THROUGH FEBRUARY 22ND. THESE ARE ALL PAINTINGS THAT WERE PRODUCED FOR THE MLK CELEBRATION BY LISD STUDENTS, AND THEY ARE SOME TREMENDOUS PIECES IN THERE. SO I'D ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO OUT AND SEE THOSE. THEN LIST 20 2425 ART SHOW HIGH SCHOOL, PRESENTED BY LEWISVILLE INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT THROUGH FEBRUARY 22ND AND THEN LIST 20 2425 ART SHOW MIDDLE SCHOOL, PRESENTED BY THE LEWISVILLE INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT FEBRUARY 28TH THROUGH MARCH 15TH. AND THAT IS MY REPORT. THANK YOU SIR. CITY ATTORNEY, CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE. ANYTHING? RICHARD? NO. I'M DONE. MICHELLE. REPORT. DAVE. LAKE LEVEL. I JUST HAVE THE LAKE LEVEL, 93.5%. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. NOTHING, CHIEF. CHIEF COUNSELOR KELLY, I THINK I TALKED OUT THERE. FAIR ENOUGH. COUNCIL MEMBER GREENE, IT'S PAST MY BEDTIME, AND THE CAFFEINE IS WEARING OFF, SO I'M GOOD. COUNCIL MEMBER JONES I'LL BE BRIEF. RICHARD'S BEEN CALLED EVERYTHING BUT A CHILD OF GOD TODAY. THANK YOU FOR THE HARD WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE. YOU'RE APPRECIATED. COUNCILMEMBER KATE, I WOULD, BUT I WAS SHUSHED EARLIER BY THE MAYOR. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS A SHUSH MORE THAN. I GUESS WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT LATER. WE DEFINITELY WILL. CITY MANAGER. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY GOOD JOB, RICHARD. I WANT TO THANK ALL THE RESIDENTS AND EVERYONE WHO CAME OUT TO SPEAK ON ALL THE DIFFERENT ISSUES. IT'S ALWAYS CHALLENGING TO MANAGE EVERYBODY'S WANTS AND NEEDS. SO I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE DIALOG AND THE CONVERSATION. I KNOW WE HAVE A BETTER AUDIENCE BECAUSE OF IT. SO THANK YOU GUYS AND THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR WORKING WITH SO MANY VARIED [L. Closed Session] INTERESTS. WE DO HAVE SOME CLOSED SESSION TONIGHT. SO IN ACCORDANCE WITH TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SUBCHAPTER D, SECTION 51.071 CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY, LEGAL ISSUES RELATED TO THE REZONING OF AND OR REDEVELOPMENT OF APPROXIMATELY 20.11 ACRES, LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS VISTA RIDGE EDITION. LOTS THREE, DASH ONE AND THREE ARE TWO BLOCK J, LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF STATE HIGHWAY 121 AND LAKE VISTA DRIVE AND ZONE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT SECTION 551 .072. REAL ESTATE PROPERTY ACQUISITION IS SECTION 551 .087 ECONOMIC EXCUSE ME. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE IS NO FURTHER ACTION BE TAKEN ON TONIGHT'S * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.