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[A. Call to Order and Announce that a Quorum is Present.]
MAY 6TH, 2025. FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS AN A QUORUM IS PRESENT AND WE'RE READY FOR APPROVAL OF THE[B. Approval of Minutes]
MINUTES. COMMISSIONERS MOVE TO APPROVE. MINUTES.SECOND BY SECOND BY FRANCESCA. PLEASE. VOTE NOW.
MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO. NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS IS C2 REGULAR HEARING.
[C. Regular Hearings]
CONSIDERATION OF ONE ALTERNATIVE STANDARD ASSOCIATED WITH LANDSCAPING STANDARDS FOR SAM'S CLUB ON 10.51 ACRES LOCATED AT 751 WEST MAIN STREET, LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS VALLEY RIDGE BUSINESS PARK, WEST LOT FOUR HOUR ONE HOUR BLOCK. SEE ZONED GENERAL BUSINESS AS REQUESTED BY KOBI CHAMBLISS OF KIMLEY-HORN ON BEHALF OF THE OWNER. WALMART STORES NUMBER 18 DASH 63812546.ALT STANDARDS. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. SO SAM'S CLUB IS REQUESTING AN ALTERNATIVE STANDARD.
THEY'RE PROPOSING SOME LANDSCAPING REVISIONS TO THEIR SITE.
THE REASON ALTERNATIVE STANDARD IS REQUIRED IS BECAUSE THE LANDSCAPE ISLANDS CURRENTLY HAVE SOD, AND THEY'RE REQUESTING TO REPLACE THAT SOD WITH JUST A RIVERWALK.
TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF RIVER ROCK. THIS WOULD MAKE THE SITE LESS CONFORMING THAN IT IS NOW, BECAUSE OUR CODE REQUIRES THAT 50% OF THE LANDSCAPE ISLANDS BE LIVING PLANT MATERIAL.
THEY ARE, HOWEVER, PROPOSING TO PLANT AN ADDITIONAL 16 TREES THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY ON THE SITE.
SO THEY'RE ASKING FOR THIS ALTERNATIVE STANDARD TO INCREASE THE TREE COVER, BUT TO USE RIVER ROCK AS THEY'VE DONE AT OTHER SAM'S CLUB LOCATIONS, AS SHOWN IN THIS PICTURE, WHERE THEY USE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT KINDS JUST TO CREATE A KIND OF ESTHETIC APPEARANCE ON THE LANDSCAPE.
ISLANDS STAFF DOES NOT HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THIS REQUEST, AND WE RECOMMEND THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL. WE'RE HERE THOUGH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS? IF NOT, I'LL READ INTO RECORD THAT KINSEY PORTER IS HERE IN SUPPORT OF THIS HEARING. AND AT THIS POINT, IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ALTERNATIVE STANDARD AS PRESENTED BY MICHELE.
MOTION BY FRANCESCA. SECOND. SECOND. BY RICK.
PARDON ME ONE SECOND. HERE WE GO. MAY I VOTE NOW? MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO. COMMISSIONERS. THIS ITEM WILL BE CONSIDERED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, WHO WILL MAKE A FINAL DECISION ON MONDAY, MAY 19TH, 2025 AT 7:00 PM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
RICHARD. NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS ARE NUMBER C3.
CONSIDERATION OF ONE ALTERNATIVE STANDARD ASSOCIATED WITH LANDSCAPING STANDARDS FOR STARSHIP BAGEL ON 10.807 ACRES LOCATED LOCATED. EXCUSE ME AT 1108 WEST MAIN STREET.
LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS MAIN VALLEY SHOPPING CENTER EDITION, ADDITION, LOT ONE BLOCK, A ZONED LOCAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, AS REQUESTED BY OREN SOLOMON OF STARSHIP BAGEL ON BEHALF OF THE OWNER.
1585 PROPERTIES, LLC. 2503 THREE ALT STANDARDS.
GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS ALSO AN ALTERNATIVE STANDARD RELATING TO LANDSCAPING.
TEN FOOT IS REQUIRED IF IT IS BRICK OR STONE.
THE EXISTING STRUCTURE IS NOT BRICK OR STONE.
THEY DON'T HAVE A TEN FOOT BUFFER TODAY. HOWEVER, WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS IS A SHIPPING CONTAINER THAT THEY WILL BE BOLTING DOWN TO MAKE IT A PERMANENT STRUCTURE. SO THAT IS NOT CONSIDERED OUTSIDE STORAGE.
AND THEN THEY WILL BE PUTTING A VENEER OVER THE SIDES OF THE SHIPPING CONTAINER AND A SMALL ROOF ON IT TO TIE IT INTO THE BUILDING, THE MAIN BUILDING ESTHETIC AND TO MAKE IT PERMANENT.
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STORAGE. THIS IS RELATED TO THE STARSHIP BAGEL SHOP.THEY HAVE RUN OUT OF ROOM, AND UNFORTUNATELY THE LEASE SPACES ON EITHER SIDE OF THEM ARE OCCUPIED, SO THIS STORAGE CONTAINER IS PROVIDING SOME VERY NECESSARY RELIEF FOR ITEMS THAT IT IS OKAY TO BE STORED IN A NON AIR CONDITIONED ENVIRONMENT.
SO IT'S MOSTLY DRY GOODS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, PACKAGING AND SO FORTH.
WE'RE HERE FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.
QUESTIONS? YES. JUST DO THEY OWN THEY DON'T OWN THE PROPERTY THAT THE BUILDING IS SITTING ON.
RIGHT. IT'S OWNED BY SOMEBODY ELSE. THAT'S CORRECT.
1585 PROPERTIES LLC IS THE PROPERTY OWNER, AND THEY'RE OKAY WITH THEM ATTACHING THIS BUILDING TO THEIR TO THEIR LOT, I GUESS. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. AT THIS TIME, I WILL READ INTO THE RECORD THAT OREN SOLOMON AND JEN MARVEL ARE HERE IN SUPPORT OF THIS.
HEARING. COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
CAN WE MOVE THE THE AGENDA SO THAT WE CAN MAKE A MOTION BECAUSE WE'RE ON TWO.
TWO. APOLOGIES. THERE WE ARE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND MOTION BY FRANCESCA.
SECOND BY AINSLEY. YOU MAY VOTE NOW. MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO. COMMISSIONERS, THIS ITEM WILL BE CONSIDERED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, WHO WILL MAKE A FINAL DECISION ON MONDAY, MAY 19TH, 2025 AT 7:00 PM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
RICHARD. THE NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
[D. Public Hearing]
CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A SELF-SERVICE STORAGE FACILITY ON APPROXIMATELY 3.97 ACRES, LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS HIGH POINT. OAKES ADDITION, LOT 3R2, BLOCK C, LOCATED AT 2710 DENTON TAP ROAD. ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, AS REQUESTED BY EXTRA SPACE STORAGE INCORPORATED AND MASTER PLAN ON BEHALF OF SOVEREIGN ACQUISITIONS LLP, THE PROPERTY OWNER.CASE NUMBER 20 502-1 SUPP. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.
SELF-STORAGE BUSINESS HAVE BEEN LOCATED AT THIS SITE SINCE 2007, PRIOR TO WHEN WE HAD SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUIREMENTS BACK IN 2022, ONE OF THE BUILDINGS WAS DESTROYED IN A FIRE, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THIS AERIAL, THE APPLICANT IS LOOKING TO BUILD A NEW STORAGE FACILITY IN THE FOOTPRINT OF THE PREVIOUSLY CONSTRUCTED BUILDING.
THE ORIGINAL BUILDING WAS 13 OFFICE WAREHOUSE UNITS AND THEY ARE LOOKING TO, IN THE PLACE OF IT, BUILD A THREE STORY SELF-STORAGE BUILDING WITH OVER 346 SELF STORAGE UNITS.
ALL OTHER REQUIREMENTS FROM OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE ARE BEING MET.
ALL LANDSCAPING THAT WAS REMOVED WHEN THE THE PREVIOUS BUILDING WAS DEMOLISHED OR BEING REPLANTED WITH THIS REQUEST. AND THE ELEVATIONS ARE MEETING THE 80% BRICK OR STONE REQUIREMENT FOR THEIR LANDSCAPING HERE.
THERE IS A BILLBOARD LOCATED ON THE SITE. THIS BILLBOARD WAS A PART OF AN AGREEMENT.
THE CITY? THE CITY HAD. WHICH REMOVED MANY OTHER BILLBOARDS.
AND TO KEEP THIS AND ALLOW IT TO BE A ELECTRONIC CHANGING BILLBOARD.
AND THE CITY DOES HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THAT OWNER TO ADVERTISE ON THIS BILLBOARD.
SO THAT'S WHY THAT HAS NOT BEEN ADDRESSED WITH THIS. SUP.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
SO I ACTUALLY PRINTED COPIES. IT'S KIND OF A NIGHTMARE.
DALLAS COURTROOM 3333 WELLBORN STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS, 75219.
I WON'T BELABOR THIS. STAFF GAVE A GOOD PRESENTATION.
I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, AS A PLANNER I THINK SELF STORAGE IS OFTEN OVERLOOKED.
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I MEAN, IT'S AN IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, CLASS TYPE.AND EXTRA SPACE IS THE LARGEST OPERATOR IN THE WORLD AND IS CAPITALIZED AT $30.2 BILLION.
SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WORK ON THE MUNICIPAL SIDE, WE OFTEN TALK ABOUT CITIES SHOULD BE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT BEST IN CLASS USERS AND NOT NECESSARILY JUST WHAT IT IS. THEY'RE CLEARLY A BEST IN CLASS USER.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, THEIR STOCK PRICE FARES, YOU KNOW BETTER THAN OTHER NAMES.
THEY'RE JUST NOT SUPER SEXY OR PEOPLE DON'T REALLY CONCENTRATE ON THEM, BUT THEY'RE A GREAT USER.
SO HERE WE'VE GOT A PRETTY TYPICAL SELF STORAGE SITE OF IT'S NOT GREAT FOR EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT IT'S GREAT FOR US. SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO TURN A BUILDING THAT WAS NON NON CONTRIBUTING WITH THESE SMALL OFFICES THAT DIDN'T WORK.
UNFORTUNATELY IT BURNED DOWN, AND WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK WITH SOMETHING THAT IS ARCHITECTURALLY GOOD AND PRESENTS A LOT MORE SALES TAX OR SALES TAX, AD VALOREM TAX FOR THE CITY ON EXACTLY THE SAME FOOTPRINT.
SO WE'VE TAKEN A LOT OF EFFORT IN SITE PLANNING.
THIS STAFF WAS GOOD TO WORK WITH ON THIS. YOU KNOW, I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT LET ME GO TO THE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, AT THE EXISTING SITE, WE'VE GOT EXISTING RETAIL IN FRONT OF US.
SO WE'RE NOT A RETAIL SITE. YOU KNOW, THE WORLD OF RETAIL IS VERY CHALLENGING.
THEY LET ME KNOW ALL THE TIME HOW LAME I AM. BUT BUT I AM IN THAT I'M NOT A GOOD SHOPPER.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF RETAIL, IT CONTINUES TO DECLINE ALL THE TIME.
SO YOUR CITIES FARED PROBABLY BETTER THAN MOST IN THE METROPLEX IN THE LAST TEN YEARS.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF IF THIS THIS IS CLEARLY NOT A RETAIL SITE BECAUSE IT'S HIDDEN BEHIND RETAIL.
SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THAT WE CAN TURN INTO THE VERY BEST AND HIGHEST USE.
A LOT OF THAT'S BEEN HERE, BUT MUCH OF ITS NATIONAL.
AND SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR STAFF WAS FAVORABLY INCLINED.
THIS IS THE RIGHT LOCATION AND THE RIGHT SOLUTION.
SO I'LL, YOU KNOW, JUST OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.
I'VE IN ALL THE HUNDREDS OF HEARINGS I'VE DONE.
I'VE NEVER HAD TO, YOU KNOW, HAD TO DEAL WITH LIVE MUSIC AS AN OPTION.
MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE THAT MORE OFTEN. I THINK THAT'D BE KIND OF FUN.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT THE MIDDLE ONE IS ACTUALLY WHAT YOU'D SEE.
IF YOU'RE INSIDE, YOU WON'T SEE THOSE BAYS THAT'S IN THAT IN BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDING.
BUT EVEN THEN, EVEN ON THE INSIDE, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT A PLEASANT EXPERIENCE.
SELF-STORAGE IS NOW A RETAIL USE IN TERMS OF HOW PEOPLE USE IT.
THEY WANT IT TO BE IN BETWEEN 1 TO 3 MILES FROM WHERE THEY EITHER LIVE OR WORK.
AND IT USED TO BE MOSTLY MEN USING IT. NOW IT'S MORE WOMEN THAN MEN ARE USING IT, AND THE USERS CHANGED FROM ACTUALLY THE I THINK THIS IS VERY INTERESTING. AND I PRESENTED ON THIS AT A CONFERENCE AT STORAGE WORLD.
IT'S NOT A PARTNER RENTERS. THAT'S A LARGE SEGMENT, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY HOMEOWNERS THAT USE STORAGE.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT THIS. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE BEST THING ABOUT STORAGE, THIS IS JUST ALL PERSONAL OPINION IS IT FREES UP PEOPLE'S GARAGE.
MY GARAGE ALWAYS LOOKS GREAT. I TREAT IT LIKE IT'S A ROOM IN THE HOUSE, AND I LIKE IT TO LOOK GOOD.
I LIKE WHEN MY NEIGHBORS DO THE SAME AND THEY DON'T PARK ON THE STREET, ETC.
SO I MEAN, THERE ARE HELPFUL THINGS. I MEAN, AS PLANNERS, THERE'S A REALLY GOOD STUDY THAT NORTHEASTERN DID ON WHY STORAGE IS GOOD, AND THEY'VE CONTINUED TO UPDATE IT OVER THIS.
BUT YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE TREATING THE BUILDINGS IMPORTANT TO US.
WELL, THAT'S LIKE SAYING I CAN FIND BAD 1970S BURGER KINGS TO THEIR CLIENT.
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DINE, THEY WANT TO GO TO A NICE FACILITY. SO THIS WILL UPGRADE THAT.WE'LL HAVE SOME OLDER TYPE OF PRODUCT AT LEAST IS AT ONE PRICE.
AND WE'LL HAVE THE NEW AIR CONDITIONED STUFF WITH ELEVATORS AT LEAST IS AT A DIFFERENT PRICE.
SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, GOOD FOR THE GOOSE AND GOOD FOR THE GANDER.
THANK YOU. I'LL JUST HAVE MORE OF AN OBSERVATION.
SO FIRST OF ALL, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THIS. I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE A VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD PROPOSAL, BUT I'M CURIOUS AS TO BECAUSE IT SEEMS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
DO YOU HAVE. I MEAN, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYONE IN OPPOSITION HERE.
DO WE KNOW? SO ARE YOU. HAVE YOU GOTTEN PUSHBACK FROM SOMEBODY ELSE? BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE PUTTING A LOT OF EFFORT INTO SOMETHING THAT SEEMS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
WELL, ONE, I GUESS MAYBE I'M AN ACADEMIC BY TRAINING AND MY FIRST JOB WAS AS A PROFESSOR, SO IF THERE'S A HEARING, I SEE IT AS PARTLY EDUCATIONAL. MAYBE I'LL BE BACK HERE IN TWO YEARS ON ONE.
AND I DO LIKE PEOPLE TO AT LEAST LISTEN AND BE THOUGHTFUL WHEN THEY'RE OUT AND THINK, OH, MAYBE SELF-STORAGE IS NOT THAT BAD. THERE ARE GOOD THINGS ABOUT IT.
SO WHEN WE REPRESENT SELF-STORAGE OR MULTIFAMILY OR CAR WASHES, THINGS KIND OF IN THE NEGATIVE CATEGORY, WE JUST MAKE A FULL PRESENTATION BECAUSE IT MAKES SENSE TO SORT OF ER, YOU KNOW WHAT THIS IS.
AND HERE CERTAINLY THIS IS SUCH A GOOD COMPANY THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE WHEN NEIMAN NEIMAN'S OR PEOPLE THAT YOU JUST IMMEDIATELY THINK, OH, THAT'S GOOD. YOU KNOW, EXTRA SPACE IS THAT.
BUT YOU HAVEN'T PEOPLE AROUND THAT HAVEN'T HEARD.
WE HAVEN'T HEARD OF. NOPE. HAVEN'T HEARD A WORD.
AND YOU KNOW, AND I CAN'T IMAGINE THEY WOULD.
I ALWAYS STUDIED FOR ALL MY EXAMS. I GUESS THAT'S WHY I WENT AND GOT A DOC.
I EVEN DID A POST-DOCTORATE. SO I MEAN, I LIKED SCHOOL, BUT I ALWAYS STUDIED.
I APPRECIATE IT, THANK YOU. SURE, ABSOLUTELY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING. I APPRECIATE THE EDUCATION.
NO, I'M HAPPY TO DO IT. AND I APPRECIATE YOU TELLING US ABOUT THE WORLD TRAINING THAT YOU WENT TO.
YEAH. THANK YOU. IF THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THANK YOU. SIR. IF THERE'S ANYONE THAT WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS MATTER, NOW IS THE TIME TO COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. WE'LL BE HAPPY TO HEAR FROM YOU.
HAVING NO ONE COME FORWARD, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
COMMISSIONERS, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MOTION BY AINSLIE.
SECOND BY ARAM. YOU MAY VOTE NOW.
MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO. COMMISSIONERS, THIS ITEM WILL BE CONSIDERED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, WHO WILL HOLD A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE A FINAL DECISION ON MONDAY, JUNE 2ND, 2025 AT 7:00 PM. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. RICHARD. ANNOUNCEMENTS. MICHELLE. WE DO HAVE THE FIRST SOUNDS OF LEWISVILLE TONIGHT.
[E. Announcements]
HEARTBREAKER. FOLLOWED BY JUST LIKE PINK. AND I DO HAVE A QUICK ANNOUNCEMENT.SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW THAT WE ARE NOW THAT WE'RE IN OUR CENTENNIAL YEAR.
IT'S TIME TO TURN THE PAGE TO 2035. WE ARE STARTING THE PROCESS OF CREATING THE LEWISVILLE 2035 VISION PLAN. WE HAVE HIRED A FRIESEN NICHOLS.
THAT WAS A CONSULTING FIRM THAT WAS THAT HELPED US CREATE THE ORIGINAL 2025 PLAN.
ALONG WITH RYAN PLANNING AND KAREN WALZ, WHO WAS ALSO PART OF THE ORIGINAL TEAM, WILL BE SERVING AS AN EXTENSION OF STAFF. DUE TO HER KNOWLEDGE OF THE ORIGINAL PLAN.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THE PNC AWARE THAT WE WILL.
THAT CALL FOR APPLICATIONS TO SERVE ON THE 2035 STEERING COMMITTEE WILL BE GOING OUT.
SO I WANT TO KIND OF GIVE Y'ALL AN ADVANCE NOTICE.
I'M SURE MANY OF YOU WILL BE VERY INTERESTED IN THAT ROLE.
AND I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU ALL A LITTLE HEADS UP THAT THAT WILL BE COMING OUT SOON.
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AND THAT PROJECT WILL IS JUST NOW STARTING. WE OFFICIALLY STARTED THE CONTRACT WAS WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL AT THE BEGINNING OF APRIL, AND IT WILL BE AN 18 MONTH PROJECT.SO IS THAT A SEPARATE APPLICATION THAN THE REGULAR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS? OKAY. GOT TO BE A SEPARATE APPLICATION. EXCELLENT.
CAN DO BOTH. OH, ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. ALL HANDS ON DECK.
IT TAKES ALL HANDS ON DECK TO I PROMISE, I PROMISE.
THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? IF NOT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
MOTION TO ADJOURN. MOTION BY RICK. SECOND BY JOSHUA.
SO NOW WE ARE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.