[Workshop Session - 6:30 P.M. ]
[00:00:16]
AND REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE REGULAR SESSION.
I'VE GOT DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BOB TROYER WITH THE INVOCATION, AND I'VE GOT COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAM MERIDITH WITH THE PLEDGE TO THE FLAGS PROCLAMATION, NATIONAL GOOD NEIGHBOR DAY. ITEM D ONE PUBLIC HEARING ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING THE TAX RATE.
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THAT ONE. IT'S GOT VERY SPECIFIC LANGUAGE.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY BEFORE I THINK TO ADD TO IT, GIVE SOME CONTEXT, I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU. BOB.
VISITOR'S FORUM. CONSENT AGENDA. CONSENT AGENDA.
ITEM THREE IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. ANY QUESTIONS OR ISSUES ON THE MINUTES? ITEM FOUR APPROVAL OF THE FIRE PROTECTION AND EMERGENCY AMBULANCE SERVICES INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH DENTON COUNTY.
FIVE BID AWARD FOR THE OFFICIAL CITY OF LEWISVILLE NEWSPAPER TO BE DENTON MEDIA COMPANY.
IS IT ALWAYS VENTRICULAR CLINICAL OR DO WE LOOK AT OTHER.
AND THERE'S, THERE'S RULES ON LIKE THE CIRCULATION AND OTHER STUFF.
SO I THINK PART OF IT IS THAT THE LEADER HAS NO LONGER HAS THAT SAME KIND OF CIRCULATION.
BUT YEAH, THE STATE HAS A WHOLE BUNCH OF AND OF COURSE, I'M SURE BUSINESSES HAVE LOBBIED FOR THAT.
ITEM SIX AUTHORIZING PARTICIPATION WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS.
THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF OUR OPIOID SETTLEMENTS.
LIZ IS IS THIS RELATED TO THE LAST ONE? THIS IS COMPLETELY SEPARATE.
OKAY. AND THIS IS AND THIS IS 14,000 OVER TEN YEARS.
OVER TEN. 14,000. YEAH. TEN YEARS. OVER TEN YEARS.
YEAH. YEAH. G7 ALTERNATIVE STANDARD TO REGULATORY TO THE 35 CORRIDOR OVERLAY ASSOCIATED WITH BUILDING ORIENTATION. I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THAT, BUT I'LL WAIT UNTIL WE GET OUT THERE.
OKAY. NEXT UP, G8 ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL AMENDING THE ADOPTED, APPROVED BUDGET ORDINANCE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR. IS THIS OUR MOVING MOVING FUNDS OVER? THIS IS THE ONE WE DO EVERY YEAR AT THE END OF THE YEAR. THAT'S THE SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS. YEAH.
SO THAT'S THAT'S EFFECTIVELY MOVING LEFTOVER MONEY FROM LAST YEAR INTO THIS YEAR.
YEAH. ALL THE SUPPLEMENTALS WE'VE DONE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR ARE PUT INTO AN ORDINANCE AT THE END OF THE YEAR, AND THEN WE HAVE THREE NEW ONES THAT WERE INCLUDED AS PART OF THIS PACKAGE, AND WE HAD ALL OF THOSE IN OUR PACKET.
SO ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE. ITEM EIGHT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE I HAVE ANY STAFF REPORTS.
SO WE'RE GOOD THERE. WORKSHOP I'M SORRY. CLOSED SESSION OKAY.
SO WE DO HAVE SOME CLOSED SESSION MATERIAL TO GO THROUGH.
I DO WANT TO FRAME THIS UP A LITTLE BIT. I HAD REQUESTED THIS A FEW MONTHS BACK.
I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH A LOT OF LOCAL MAYORS IN THE REGION, AND YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED THAT THERE ARE FOLKS IN THE WORLD THAT CHOOSE TO TAKE THE PUBLIC SQUARE AND TRY TO MONETIZE IT FOR YOUTUBE AND CLICKS, AND THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON.
WE HAVE NOT SEEN A LOT OF IT. WE'VE SEEN A LITTLE BIT OF IT, BUT WE'VE NOT SEEN IT.
AND SO WHAT I ASKED STAFF TO DO WAS TO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR POLICIES.
SO IN GENERAL, WHAT IS WHAT ARE OUR POLICIES? LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE GOOD, STRONG POLICIES THAT ARE DEFENDABLE AND THAT WE HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT.
BUT IN THAT CONVERSATION, WE DID UNCOVER THAT THERE IS SOME DOCUMENTATION DISCREPANCIES BETWEEN WHAT WE HAVE IN POLICY, WHAT WE HAVE ON PAPER AND WHAT WE SPEAK TO OR WHAT WE'VE HISTORICALLY DONE.
SO THERE'S A CONVERSATION TO BE HAD AROUND ALL OF THAT.
[00:05:01]
THANKFULLY FROM WHAT I CAN TELL AND THE FEEDBACK I'VE GOTTEN, WE HAVE SOME PRETTY STRONG POLICIES IN PLACE THAT ALLOW US TO, YOU KNOW, KEEP A LIMIT ON THAT KIND OF DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR AND KEEP IT FOCUSED ON THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS, WHICH I THINK IS GREAT. THE THE OTHER PIECE OF IT IS JUST, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOME CLEANUP AND SOME CONVERSATION AROUND A COUPLE OF IDEAS.SO WITH THAT FRAMEWORK I HOPE THAT YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND THAT THIS WAS THIS ABSOLUTELY CAME FROM A PLACE OF LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROTECTED AND THAT THE PUBLIC GOOD IS IS IMPRESSED UPON THIS, THAT THIS ISN'T SOME PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME TO GET YOUTUBE CLICKS.
THIS IS INSTEAD A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME TO HAVE SERIOUS DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW THEIR CITY RUNS.
SO THAT WAS THE FRAME. THAT WAS THE PACKAGE. I'M SURE THERE'S A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND SOME IDEAS THAT WE NEED TO THROW AROUND, BUT THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. SO I APPRECIATE STAFF TAKING TIME TO DIG THROUGH THE POLICIES SO THAT WE CAN WE KIND OF DO A REFRESH ON THIS.
SO WITH THAT I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT TO OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.
YEAH, I WILL JUST ACTUALLY JENNIFER'S GOING TO DO THE PRESENTATION.
SHE AND CLAIRE WORKED ON IT TOGETHER AND CLAIRE.
SO JENNIFER WILL BE HANDLING THE BULK OF IT. I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW, KIND OF THE FLOW OF IT WILL BE HER TO GIVE YOU KIND OF SOME BACKGROUND ON CURRENT AND POLICY AS WELL AS PRACTICE OF WHAT WE CURRENTLY DO.
THEN SHE'LL GIVE YOU SOME PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT OTHER CITIES DO, JUST SO YOU'LL HAVE THAT, AND THEN THERE'LL BE SOME RECOMMENDATION SLIDES FOR YOUR DISCUSSION. OKAY. SO WHY DO WE NEED AN ADOPTED POLICY? BASICALLY WE WANT SPEAKERS, STAFF AND COUNCIL TO KNOW WHAT THE PROCESSES ARE.
WE WANT TO PROVIDE THE PRESIDING OFFICER WITH THE FLEXIBILITY NEEDED TO EFFECTIVELY RUN THE MEETING.
AND THEN WE ALSO WANT TO PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNCIL TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.
OUR CURRENT POLICY WAS ADOPTED IN 2019. SO ON THIS SLIDE WE JUST HAVE SOME OF OUR CURRENT TIMELINES.
SO ACCORDING TO OUR POLICY WE ALLOW FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS.
WE ALLOW TEN MINUTES FOR THE APPLICANT WITH THE WITH FIVE MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL.
AND THEN BASICALLY FOR EVERYBODY ELSE WE ALLOW TEN MINUTES.
EXCEPT FOR THE APPLICANT. FOR VISITORS FORUM SPEAKERS ARE ALLOWED FIVE MINUTES EACH.
SO THESE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL TIME LIMITS. SPEAKERS USING A TRANSLATOR GET TWICE THE AMOUNT OF TIME.
WE DO HAVE A PROVISION IN THERE ALLOWING THE PRESIDING OFFICER TO EQUALLY REDUCE THE TIME.
AND THEN WE HAVE A PROVISION IN THERE THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE, THE SPEAKERS TO SUBMIT WRITTEN COMMENTS WITH THE CITY SECRETARY, AND THEN THOSE ARE PASSED ON TO YOU. SO THESE ARE JUST SOME OF OUR OTHER PROCEDURES.
YOU KNOW, THEY BASICALLY SPEAK TO, YOU KNOW, WE WE REQUIRE THE SPEAKER FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD.
NOW, IF WE EVER ACTUALLY GET TO THAT LEVEL, WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO COME INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
SO STAFF DID A SURVEY OF OUR SURVEY CITIES TO FIND OUT WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING.
SO AGAIN, FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING WHAT IS WHAT IS IN OUR ACTUAL OR OUR POLICY IS THAT THE APPLICANT GETS TEN MINUTES WITH FIVE MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL AND THEN EVERYBODY ELSE GETS TEN MINUTES. SO AS YOU CAN SEE FROM OUR SURVEY CITIES VERY FEW OF THEM ALLOW THE FIVE MINUTES OR MORE THAN FIVE MINUTES. THERE ARE ALSO PROVISIONS IN HERE FOR SOME CITIES WHERE THEY, THEY DO DIFFERENT AMOUNTS OF TIME FOR APPLICANTS VERSUS THE OTHER SPEAKERS. AND WHAT WE DID FIND INTERESTING IS WE DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE POLICIES IN THE CITIES THAT WE SURVEYED THAT SPOKE TO THE FIVE MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL.
WE DO LIKE TO HAVE THAT, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THAT IN OUR POLICY.
IT GIVES THE APPLICANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT OTHER SPEAKERS MAY MAKE.
SO WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THAT IN IN THE POLICY.
SO OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON THIS IS TO ALLOW TEN MINUTES FOR APPLICANTS ON PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS, THE FIVE MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL AND THEN FIVE MINUTES FOR ALL OTHER SPEAKERS.
SO I'D LIKE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT. AND COUNCIL, I MEAN, THESE ARE THESE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS.
[00:10:06]
I THINK THE TWO ISSUES THAT I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THEY'RE ISSUES, THEY'RE JUST CONVERSATION PIECES.AND WE CAN DO WHATEVER WE WANT. ONE IS IS IS THERE AN INTEREST IN CHANGING THE WRITTEN TIME TO ACTUALLY MATCH WHAT WE'VE DONE IN PRACTICE? ASIDE FROM THE LAST MEETING OR TWO? I THINK WHERE WE ACTUALLY HAD FOLKS THAT SAW THE DISCREPANCY WHICH THAT'S ON ME FOR, FOR NOT DOUBLE CHECKING ALL THAT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S ONE I THINK THE OTHER ONE IS TECHNOLOGY USE.
FROM SHE'LL GET TO THAT ONE. OKAY. SO, SO WE WANT TO JUST DEAL WITH THIS ONE FOR RIGHT NOW.
OKAY, THEN LET'S LET'S GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT THIS ONE.
WE CAN KNOCK THIS ONE DOWN AND THEN WE CAN MOVE TO THE OTHER ONE. OKAY.
I'M ASSUMING THAT ALL THE TIMES THAT WERE LISTED WOULD ALL BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE STATE LAW, RIGHT? YES. THAT'S CORRECT. SO IS THERE WHAT DOES THE STATE SAY WE HAVE TO DO? DOES IT SPECIFY A TIME FRAME AT ALL? JUST SAYS WE HAVE TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO SPEAK.
I DON'T BELIEVE IT SPECIFIES A TIMEFRAME. WE CAN DEFINITELY FIND THAT OUT FOR YOU. I HAVE CITIES THAT I KNOW THAT ARE LOCAL, THAT HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT OR HAVE COMMENT ON ALL THINGS AS PART OF PUBLIC COMMENT.
SO IT'S NOT THEY DON'T EVEN BRING IT UP. YOU CAN'T SPEAK TO THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
THOSE ARE OUTLIERS IN THAT. BUT THERE ARE I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.
YEAH, BUT STATE LAW IS, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, VERY NONRESTRICTIVE.
YOU JUST YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE IT. IT JUST DOESN'T REALLY GIVE YOU A RIGHT IT.
AND DON'T SAY THAT TO ME BEFORE OR DURING CONSIDERATION.
YEAH. SO SO I'VE SEEN CITIES THAT HAVE DONE IT AFTER CONSIDERATION.
SO THEY NEED BETTER ATTORNEYS. SO THAT'S THAT'S THAT PIECE.
BUT YEAH. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I HAVE JUST A COUPLE CONCERNS ABOUT THIS. ONE, I DON'T SEE WHERE I ACTUALLY GET A FAIR AMOUNT OF KIND OF LOOKING AT DIFFERENT STUFF, AND I APOLOGIZE. I'M TRYING TO DO IT HERE, BUT I JUST LOOKED AT DIFFERENT THINGS.
I LOOKED AT SOME RECENT LEGISLATION AGAINST AUSTIN.
AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL, WHERE THEY HAD TO MAKE SOME CHANGES. AND OVERALL IT JUST SPEAKS TO BEING FAIR.
I MEAN, THAT'S REALLY KIND OF WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO, BEING FAIR ON EVERYBODY VIEWPOINT. I COULDN'T FIND ANYWHERE WHERE IT SAID TIME ANY SPECIFIC TIMES. I HAVE CONCERNS THAT AN APPLICANT GETS TEN MINUTES OR REBUTTALS GET FIVE OR NOT REBUTTALS, BUT TEN MINUTES, THE SPEAKERS GET FIVE APPLICANTS.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR APPLICANTS. THEY'VE TALKED WITH STAFF.
THEY'VE TALKED MAYBE WITH COUNSEL BEFORE. THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF HOMEWORK BEFORE THEY COME IN, AND THEY'VE LAID A LOT OF GROUNDWORK DOWN TO HAVE THEM HAVE SPEAKERS HAVE FIVE HALF THAT TIME.
SAME THING WITH REBUTTALS. THE WAY THIS IS FRAMED UP, APPLICANT SPEAKS.
THE SPEAKER SPEAKS. PROBABLY IN OPPOSITION. THAT'S USUALLY WHAT WE SEE.
OPPOSITION WANTS TO SUPPORT FIVE MINUTES. THEN THE APPLICANT CAN REBUT FOR FIVE MINUTES.
BUT THE SPEAKER GETS NO OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK AND REBUT THAT.
SO I WOULD PROPOSE TEN MINUTES PER FIVE MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL ON BOTH SIDES.
THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE. I THINK THAT'S FAIR AND EQUITABLE.
THE COMMUNITY CAN HAVE HOURS AND HOURS, BECAUSE ALL IT TAKES IS FOR ME TO REACH OUT TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND SAY, HEY, I NEED YOU TO COME SPEAK ON THIS. AND EACH ONE OF THEM GETS FIVE MINUTES.
AND ANYBODY WHO'S SMART WILL ABSOLUTELY DO THAT.
I WOULD IF I HAD ANY ISSUE WHATSOEVER, I WOULD I WOULD BERRY THIS COUNCIL IN THAT AMOUNT OF TIME.
AND THAT'S WHERE I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S FAIR.
YOU STOP IT AT ONE. I MEAN, YOU GET A REBUTTAL.
SOMEBODY ELSE GETS TO GO BACK. ABOUT THAT. AND THEN IT'S DONE.
THAT'S WHY I WOULD STOP IT. BUT BUT UNLESS YOU.
BUT WHAT IF YOU HAVE 30 PEOPLE AND ALL 30 OF THEM, ALL 30 OF THEM ARE GOING TO REBUT.
AND THAT'S A FAIR POINT, I GUESS. BUT I DON'T KNOW.
I'D LIKE TO THINK THROUGH THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE AND CONSIDER THAT OPTION. SO IS THERE A WAY THAT, I MEAN, I THINK THE POINT OF THE TIME FRAME IS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE GETS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK,
[00:15:09]
BECAUSE LET'S BE HONEST, WHEN IT'S IF IT'S 30 PEOPLE, IF EACH ONE OF THEM GETS TEN MINUTES, WE'RE REALLY GOING TO GET THREE PEOPLE IN AND EVERYBODY'S GOING TO START CHECKING OUT MENTALLY LIKE IT'S JUST TOO LONG.YEAH. SO I THINK, IS THERE A WAY TO GIVE TO SAY THAT WE WILL GIVE? DO WE HAVE TO DEFINE THE NUMBER OF MINUTES, I GUESS IS WHAT I'M SAYING, BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 30 PEOPLE SHOW UP, WANT TO SPEAK, AND WE SAY, OKAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, LET'S GIVE EVERYBODY FOUR MINUTES.
OR IF THERE'S ONLY TWO SPEAKERS, YOU KNOW, GIVE THEM A LITTLE MORE TIME.
THE MAYOR HAS THE ABILITY TO EITHER INCREASE OR DECREASE TIME.
AND I THINK YOU'VE SEEN ME DO THAT, RIGHT? I MEAN, AND IT'S ALSO BECAUSE YOU GET A BIG GROUP OF PEOPLE AND THEY'RE ALL SAYING THE SAME THING, KIND OF. I WILL SAY AUSTIN JUST HAD A PROBLEM WITH THAT IN AUSTIN, JUST HAD A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
SO THERE'S A RULE THAT SAID SPEAKERS ARE OFTEN GROUPED OR CAPPED COLLECTIVELY.
NOW THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW THE INDIVIDUAL SPEAKERS OR FULL TIME PER ITEM, AND CANNOT ARBITRARILY REDUCE TIME BASED ON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS. SO THAT THAT THAT WAS A JUDGING. TRAVIS JUDGMENT CAME OUT OF TRAVIS COUNTY.
IT WAS UPHELD ON APPEAL. SO I DO HAVE SOME CONCERN ABOUT THAT.
YEAH. NO, THAT'S I MEAN, SO THEY, THEY THEY CALL THAT A SO ANY TIME LIMIT IS A CAP.
YES. I'M GOING TO DEFER TO LIZ. AND CERTAINLY GOING TO LOOK AT THAT A LITTLE BIT.
BUT BASICALLY AUSTIN GOT SLAPPED THREE DIFFERENT TIMES HERE FROM SAVE OUR SPRINGS FOUNDATION.
THEY DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THEY WERE BEING REPRESENTED FAIRLY. AND THEY WENT IN.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DO IS THEY SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH AND I SEE THERE'S TEN PEOPLE HERE. EVERYBODY GETS FIVE MINUTES. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE EVERYBODY THREE MINUTES FOR EFFICIENT USE OF TIME. AND THEY WERE TOLD THEY CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE. THEY MUST ALLOW INDIVIDUAL SPEAKERS THEIR FULL TIME PER ITEM. CANNOT ARBITRARILY REDUCE THE TIME BASED ON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS. IS THAT BASED ON THEIR POLICY THOUGH? THAT'S WHAT THE JUDGMENT THAT CAME DOWN TRAVIS COUNTY.
YEAH, IT WAS A COURT DECISION. YEAH. SO SO I WOULD I WOULD WANT TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION ON THAT IF WE WANT TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S THAT'S ATTORNEY ATTORNEY PRIVILEGE, ATTORNEY CONVERSATION.
SURE. WHAT WHAT CONCERNS ME ABOUT THAT IS NOW OUR PRESENTATION FROM A DEVELOPER GOES OUT THE WINDOW, TOO. THEY CAN SIT UP THERE FOR TWO HOURS. IF THERE'S NOT AN ARBITRARY CAP FOR RULES ARE FIVE MINUTES.
YOU CAN'T CHANGE THAT TO THREE FOR THE FOR THE FOR THE.
OKAY. SO THAT'S OKAY. YEAH. INTERESTING. OKAY.
CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEYS 2020 071071. AWESOME.
THANK YOU. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DO THAT NOW. AUDIO NOW.
SO OKAY LET'S WE'RE BACK IN A WORKSHOP SESSION.
LET'S TAKE A COUPLE MINUTES AND MAKE WHERE WHERE DOES COUNCIL WANT STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD TO BRING BACK A RECOMMENDATION ON TIME IF ANY? THERE WAS ONE THING THAT I FOUND REALLY INTERESTING THAT I THINK MIGHT BE AN INTERESTING COMPROMISE, BUT I SAW WHERE YOU QUOTED DENTON COUNTY. DENTON.
THEY HAVE A THEY HAVE A PROCESS BY WHICH COUNCIL CAN MOVE, MAKE A MOTION TO GIVE SOMEBODY MORE TIME.
WHICH I THAT MIGHT BE A NICE COMPROMISE HERE.
GET FIVE AND THEN LET THAT BE AT THE DISCRETION OF COUNCIL TO MAKE A MOTION TO ALLOW MORE TIME.
WELL HE DOES, BUT COUNCIL DOES. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I WOULD ASK IF WE IF WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH A LIMIT, CAN WE ALLOW COUNCIL TO MAKE A MOTION TO GET MORE TIME FOR PARTICULAR SPEECH.
THAT SEEMS TO BE DOING THAT. BUT DIDN'T DENTON'S MEETINGS LAST TO 1 OR 2:00? I DON'T CARE HOW LONG THEY LAST. IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME. WELL. I'M LOOKING.
I'M LOOKING FOR SOME INPUT. I LIKE I LIKE TEN, TEN AND FIVE.
I LIKE TEN, TEN AND FIVE. DO YOU WANT US? DO YOU WANT A SECOND REBUTTAL? LOOK AT THAT. YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT? I DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT.
OKAY. I GUESS FOR THAT YOU'D HAVE TO. EVERYBODY WANTS TO REBUT.
MAYBE 30 PEOPLE. TEN, TEN. FIVE. FIVE, TEN. THAT'S THAT'S TOO MUCH.
OKAY. GOTTA GET TEN. TEN. FIVE. I LIKE THE TEN.
FIVE, FIVE. YEAH, I CAN GO TO 10 TO 10. FIVE.
I'M OKAY WITH THAT. THAT'S RIGHT. I'VE GOT I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF FOLKS THAT ARE ON.
I'VE GOT A COUPLE FOLKS I NEED YOU TO EXPRESS YOUR OPINION. I'M.
I FEEL LIKE THE CURRENT PROCESS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WORKS JUST FINE.
[00:20:04]
SO I, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S NOT BROKE, I DON'T SEE A REASON TO TRY TO FIX IT.I'M FINE WITH A TEN, FIVE, FIVE. I MEAN, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO TO EXTEND, TO EXTEND.
SO I'M FINE WITH THE WAY IT IS. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S NOT BROKE.
PEOPLE THAT HAVE ASKED FOR TEN AND HAVE GRANTED IT.
BUT. BUT IF WE COULD ALWAYS ASK YOU MAYOR, COULD YOU ALLOW HIM OR HER ADDITIONAL TIME? I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S POSSIBLE. IS THERE A REASON NOT TO GO IF WE'RE GOING TO GO TEN, FIVE? FIVE IS A REASON NOT TO PUT THAT TO A COUNCIL VOTE FOR THAT.
WELL, WE WE I MEAN, WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS A RECOMMENDATION RIGHT NOW.
AND THAT WAS I WAS ASKING THE SHE SAID WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING, ARE WE DOING TEN, TEN, FIVE RIGHT NOW. SO WE'RE DOING HISTORICALLY WE'VE DONE TEN, FIVE, FIVE.
BUT IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS WE DID TEN, TEN, FIVE BECAUSE THAT WAS DOCUMENTED ON THE CARDS.
AND THAT SEEMS TO WORK PRETTY WELL. CORRECT THE CARDS.
I THINK THE CARDS ARE CORRECT. I THINK WE DEVIATED FROM THE CARDS.
I WOULD SAY THAT THE PRINTED CARDS ARE PROBABLY THE ACCURATE STATEMENT.
I PREFER THE 1055. OKAY. SURE. SO I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME DIRECTION ON THAT.
SO WITH THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE A PAUSE ON THE WORKSHOP SESSION.
[Regular Session - 7:00 P.M.]
GOOD EVENING. WE'RE GOING TO CALL THIS REGULAR SESSION OF THE LEWISVILLE CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER. AND WE DO HAVE A QUORUM TONIGHT. FIRST ON THE AGENDA IS THE INVOCATION WITH DEPUTY[A. Invocation - Deputy Mayor Pro Tem Bob Troyer]
MAYOR PRO TEM BOB TROYER. PLEASE JOIN ME IN A MOMENT OF SILENT CONTEMPLATION.AMEN. COUNCIL MEMBER MERIDITH WITH THE FLAG. PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGES.
[B. Pledge to the American and Texas Flags - Councilmember William Meridith]
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.UNDER THE FLAG I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE. TEXAS.
SO THAT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE PROJECTED. YOU CAN PROBABLY HEAR IT. OR IF YOU'D LIKE TO SIT IN THE OTHER ROOM WITH US, THAT THAT'D BE GREAT. BUT WE'VE GOT A LITTLE MORE WORK TO DO IN WORKSHOP, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK OUT FOR THE REST OF THE AGENDA. WORKSHOP.
JENNIFER, JUST A JUST A QUICK POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
THE WRITTEN POLICY DOCUMENT, DOES IT HAVE TEN MINUTES FOR SPEAKERS IN THE WRITTEN POLICY DOCUMENT OR IS IT TEN MINUTES? IT'S IN BOTH. OKAY. OKAY. IT HAS THE TEN. BUT WE HAVE BEEN WE HAVE BEEN DOING FIVE MINUTES AS A PRACTICE.
THANK YOU FOR THAT. ALL RIGHT. ITEM TWO.
AGAIN LOOKING AT OUR SURVEY CITIES 11 OF OUR SURVEY CITIES ALLOW THREE MINUTES.
JUST A FEW OF THEM ALLOW THE FIVE MINUTES. SO OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON THIS IS TO ALLOW THREE MINUTES FOR SPEAKERS FOR VISITOR FORM AS WELL. AND WHAT DO WE CURRENTLY HAVE? CURRENTLY WE HAVE FIVE MINUTES.
YEAH FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. DID WE USED TO HAVE THREE? WE USED TO HAVE TWO. I REMEMBER WHEN WE HAD. THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING LONNIE.
YOU REMEMBER WHEN WE HAD TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK AND THEN WE WE WENT UP FROM THERE? YEAH. I SAW PUBLIC FORUM PUBLIC COMMENTS THREE MINUTES OR WHAT WAS THREE MINUTES.
I THOUGHT THAT I THOUGHT THAT WAS THREE MINUTES OF PUBLIC COMMENT HAS ALWAYS BEEN FINE. I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WAS CHANGED, BUT IT'S BEEN FIVE FOR A WHILE. OKAY. AT LEAST SINCE 2019, BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THE DOCUMENT THAT JUST CAME OFF OF WAS IN 2019.
[00:25:05]
SO SO YEAH, KEEP IT WITH THE WITH FIVE. REDUCE IT TO THREE.BUMP IT TO TEN. NO. EVERYTHING'S TEN. IT'S JUST IT'S A NICE ROUND NUMBER.
YOU KNOW, I LIKE FIVE. I COULD LIVE WITH THREE, FRANKLY.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM HAS PROBABLY BEEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PODIUM. AND THREE MINUTES GOES REALLY FAST WHEN YOU'RE UP THERE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'VE GOT THE SWORD OF DAMOCLES HANGING OVER YOUR HEAD. I'M A RULE FOLLOWER, SO I'M TRYING NOT TO GO OVER. SO I'M TRYING TO LIKE, EDIT MY MY COMMENTS AS I'M SPEAKING BECAUSE I'VE GONE LONGER IN SOME SECTIONS, SHORT IN OTHER.
I PREFER TO KEEP IT AT FIVE AND MOVE IT TO FIVE AND KEEP IT AT FIVE, WHATEVER IT IS TODAY.
BUT I DON'T FEEL AS PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS AS I DO ABOUT THE OTHER THINGS.
I FEEL LIKE IF WE HAVE IT AT THREE, IT KIND OF FORCES PEOPLE TO KIND OF PREPARE BEFORE THEY COME AND SPEAK TO US AND REALLY JUST LIKE DIG INTO THEIR POINT, WHICH I THINK IS THE MOST EFFICIENT USE OF EVERYONE'S TIME.
ESPECIALLY SINCE WE, WE ALLOW THEM THAT TIME TO SPEAK AND THEN WE KNOW IT'S NOT PART OF THE POLICY.
BUT WE ALWAYS HAVE SOMEONE FROM STAFF GO OUT WITH THAT PERSON AND TALK TO THEM SO THEY GET MORE EXPOSURE THAN JUST THAT TIME. SO I'M OKAY WITH THREE MINUTES.
I'M GOOD WITH THREE. I'M GOOD WITH THREE. I'M GOOD WITH THREE.
SO WE'VE GOT CONSENSUS ON THIS ONE. SOUNDS LIKE FOR SOMETHING TO BRING BACK.
SO FOR A REGULAR HEARING OUR CURRENT PRACTICE IS THAT SPEAKERS ARE ALLOWED FIVE MINUTES.
NOW THE POLICY DOES NOT ACTUALLY SPEAK TO THIS, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING.
AGAIN, 11 OF OUR SURVEY CITIES ALLOW THREE MINUTES.
VERY FEW OF THEM ALLOW FIVE MINUTES. AND SO OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON THIS IS ALSO THREE MINUTES.
I DIDN'T THINK THAT WE HAD PUBLIC. I DON'T RECALL HAVING PUBLIC COMMENT ON A REGULAR HEARING.
YEAH. YEAH. WOULD I STAND UP IN THERE FOR OR AGAINST IT? THEY JUST DON'T DO IT VERY OFTEN. THEY JUST. YEAH, THEY DON'T DO IT. THE THING IS THAT I'M. I'M NOT THINKING OF A TIME WHERE WE HAD A COMMENT ON A REGULAR HEARING ITEM BECAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT THAN A PUBLIC HEARING.
RIGHT. BUT IT'S STILL A DECISION THAT COUNCIL IS MAKING THAT RESIDENTS HAVE AN OPINION ON.
SO DO THEY HAVE TO FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD BEFOREHAND.
OKAY. AND THAT'S HOW WE KNOW IF THERE'S SOMEBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO WEIGH IN ON THIS.
SO REFRESH MY MEMORY HERE ON THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEM AND THE REGULAR HEARING ITEMS. BECAUSE IN MY HEAD, PUBLIC HEARING ARE BIG, BIG DEAL ITEMS. SOMEBODY'S GOING TO PUT A WAREHOUSE UP NEXT TO MY HOUSE OR WHATEVER. AND THERE'S A AND THERE'S A PRESENTATION ABOUT IT REGULARLY. HEARING ITEMS ARE ARE MUCH MORE BENIGN IS MY INTERPRETATION. THINGS. THINGS THAT WE WILL PULL. THINGS THAT WE WILL PULL OFF. CONSENT AGENDA WOULD BE A REGULAR ITEM, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE TWO STEP PROCESS OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ALL THAT STUFF. THINGS THAT HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE REQUIRED BY STATUTE, REQUIRED BY STATUTE AND PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY, I'M THE SAME WAY HERE.
I'M ALWAYS GOING TO LEAN TOWARDS MORE TIME RATHER THAN LESS. BUT I'M LOOKING AT THE MINUTES HERE.
GIVEN GIVEN THE NATURE OF WHAT'S USUALLY ON THESE REGULAR, THESE REGULAR ITEMS, I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
I ALSO, I MEAN, I'M, I'M GOOD WITH THREE MINUTES.
AND ALSO JUST TO SAY THAT IF SOMEBODY HAS ANY COMMENTS ABOUT ANY OF THE AGENDA ITEMS, THEY'RE THEY'RE ALWAYS WELCOME TO EMAIL ALL OF US BEFOREHAND. AND, YOU KNOW, SO THERE ARE OTHER AVENUES THAN JUST SPEAKING DURING, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC SETTING. SO I MEAN, THERE IS THAT TOO, IF THAT TIME ALLOTMENT IS JUST NOT ENOUGH, UFF. THEY CAN ALWAYS COMMUNICATE OVER EMAIL BEFOREHAND.
I'M HEARING CONSENSUS ON THIS ONE TOO. OKAY. SO THESE ARE SOME ADJUSTMENT TIME.
LEWISVILLE PROTOCOL. NOW, SPEAKERS USING A TRANSLATOR ARE GIVEN TWICE THE AMOUNT OF TIME.
IT ALSO SAYS IN OUR POLICY THAT THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY EQUALLY REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF TIME.
AND WE CAN LOOK AT THAT REDUCTION ON WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S LEGAL.
[00:30:06]
YOU KNOW, GROUPS OF. HAVE. DIFFERENT AMOUNTS OF PEOPLE TO COME IN, AND IF THEY DESIGNATE A SPOKESPERSON, THEY'LL GIVE THEM ADDITIONAL TIME. SO WE WANTED TO ALSO ADD AN INCENTIVE IN OUR POLICY.SO OUR RECOMMENDATION ON THIS IS TO MAINTAIN MAINTAIN THE ADDITIONAL ALLOTTED TIME WHEN USING A TRANSLATOR, WHICH CURRENTLY IS TWO IS DOUBLE THE TIME. SO IF WE GO TO THREE MINUTES IT WOULD BE SIX.
AND THEN TO ALLOW THE PRESIDING OFFICER TO ALSO EXTEND THE TIME.
AND THEN AS AN INCENTIVE TO STREAMLINE THE COMMENTS ADD A PROVISION TO DOUBLE THE TIME IF A GROUP OF FIVE OR MORE ELECTS A SPOKESPERSON TO SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF. I REALLY LIKED THE INCENTIVE.
I DO TOO. YEAH, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA.
IT DOES ALIGN WITH, YOU SEE PEOPLE TRYING TO CEDE TIME TO OTHER FOLKS.
I WANT TO SEE MY REMAINING TWO MINUTES. IT DOES KIND OF ALIGN WITH THAT.
THAT. YEAH. AND NOBODY'S TELLING THEM THEY HAVE TO BECAUSE THEY CAN.
I AM ASIDE. I WAS READING SOMETHING ABOUT HOW WE'VE BEEN USING THE THE POLICE TRANSLATOR STUFF TO TALK WITH, LIKE, IN MANDARIN. I'M EXCITED TO SEE WHEN THAT'S GOING TO COME TO THE PODIUM OUT THERE. YEAH. PRETTY COOL.
BUT AND I'M ALSO I LOVE THAT WE WE NEED THE ADDITIONAL TIME.
I WOULD I WOULD HATE TO MOVE AWAY FROM THAT FOR TRANSLATORS.
YES. YEP. SAME SAME THOUGHT. NOW THE PRESIDING OFFICER TO EXTEND THE TIME LIMIT.
THIS SAYS YOU'RE SAYING SOMETHING VERY COMPELLING. YOU SPECIFICALLY CAN GO ANOTHER TWO MINUTES.
IS THAT AT THE ITEM LEVEL LEVEL OR THE SPEAKER LEVEL? WELL, OUR CURRENT POLICY IS JUST A REDUCTION IN TIME.
AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT CAN BE BASED ON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS.
OR ALSO IF AN ITEM HAS ADDITIONAL COMPLEXITIES.
SO IT MAY BE AN UNWRITTEN POLICY, BUT I KNOW NOW PRESIDING OFFICER CAN EXTEND THE TIME FOR AN ITEM BECAUSE I THINK YOU'VE DONE THAT AND I'VE DONE THAT. YEAH. SO BUT I'M WONDERING IF THIS IS, IS THAT SAYING A PERSON CAN HAVE EXTENDED TIME? SO IF YOU HAVE IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY OUT THERE SAYING THEY'RE MAKING GREAT POINTS AND THEY RUN OUT OF TIME, IS THIS SAYING THAT PERSON EXTENDED TIME? I'M GUESSING PROBABLY NOT. I THINK YOU'D HAVE TO BE EQUITABLE TO EVERYBODY.
SO. YEAH. I MEAN AS, AS I INTERPRET IT AND OF COURSE I'M GOING TO INTERPRET IT FAVORABLE TO ME.
OKAY. NOW THERE'S A QUESTION OF FAIRNESS. FAIRNESS AROUND THAT, I GET IT.
THERE MIGHT BE EVEN A QUESTION OF LEGALITY AROUND THAT.
BUT THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS CONVERSATION HERE.
I ACTUALLY LIKE THAT BECAUSE THIS IS BECAUSE I DO THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE TEN PEOPLE OUT THERE, NINE OF WHICH ARE JUST REITERATING WHAT EACH ONE HAS ALREADY SAID. BUT THE 10TH ONE COMES UP AND THEY'VE GOT SOME GREAT POINTS. SO I LIKE HAVING A FINER TOOTH COMB OR SHARPER TIPPED PENCIL OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT TO. AND WHEN YOU SAY TRANSLATOR, IS THAT STRICTLY LANGUAGE TRANSLATION? IT COULD BE LANGUAGE, SIGN LANGUAGE OR FOREIGN LANGUAGE.
YEAH. SO I WOULD I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO CONSIDER THAT INSTEAD OF JUST LEAVING THIS UP TO THE DISCRETION OF THE PRESIDING OFFICER. I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REQUEST EITHER THROUGH COUNSEL MOTION OR UNOFFICIAL MOTIONS, A MAYOR PRESIDING OFFICER. I'M REALLY ENJOYING WHAT I HAVE TO SAY.
THEY MAKE GOOD POINTS. CAN WE GIVE THEM MORE THAN TWO MINUTES BY JUST SAYING IT'S SOLELY AT THE PRESIDING OFFICER'S DISCRETION? I THINK COUNCIL ALWAYS HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THAT DURING THE MEETING.
NOW THERE'S PROS AND CONS TO THAT. I MEAN, LET'S I MEAN, BECAUSE I OKAY, I LIKE WHAT THIS GUY'S SAYING, BUT I DON'T LIKE WHAT THAT GUY'S SAYING, SO YOU CAN I CAN LET ONE TALK AND THE OTHER NOT.
SO I GET I GET THE NEGATIVITY ON THAT SIDE, BUT IT ALSO FLIPS THE OTHER WAY, TOO.
IF A COUNCIL MEMBER HAS A PARTICULAR AGENDA THAT THEY WANT TO, THEY WANT TO EMPHASIZE OR NOT. SO, I MEAN, I DON'T I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HOWEVER WE DO IT. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST THE PARAMETER THAT WE WHEN WE'RE STARTING TO PICK, WE'RE STARTING TO PICK WINNERS OR LOSERS. AND I'M, I'M REALLY GOOD WITH EXTENDING TIME LIMIT AND I'M REALLY GOOD WITH IF COUNCIL REQUESTS.
I DON'T KNOW IF I, I DON'T KNOW HOW FORMAL I WANT TO MAKE THAT I MEAN, IT'S UP TO YOU ALL.
YEAH, I'VE ASKED THAT BEFORE. I'VE LEANED OVER AND WENT.
SO I'VE BEEN HERE FOR YEARS. I HAVE AN OPTION FOR ME.
[00:35:01]
SURE. SO I'D LIKE TO CODIFY THAT. WE COULD BUILD SOME LANGUAGE AND SEE.SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. DO YOU WANT THAT? DO YOU WANT THAT TO LOOK LIKE A.
LINE THAT JUST SAYS COUNCIL MAY REQUEST AN EXTENSION OF TIME OF THE MAYOR.
OR DO YOU WANT TO SEE THAT COUNCIL WOULD NEED TO MAKE A MOTION? IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME AS LONG AS AS LONG AS THERE'S AN OPINION IN THE ROOM THAT SAYS, I'M GETTING VALUE OUT OF THIS, I'D LIKE TO EXTEND TIME. IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME HOW FORMAL THAT IS.
AND I THINK, I THINK THE WAY YOU'VE GOTTEN IT, THOUGH, ON THE FLIP SIDE, YOU ASK QUESTIONS OF THOSE FOLKS AND EXTENDED THEIR SPEAKING TIME, RIGHT? SO THERE'S ANOTHER THAT'S ANOTHER SPIN ON THE CONVERSATION.
YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT. I'M NOT SURE I WOULD WANT THAT IN THERE BECAUSE FROM MY IN MY OPINION, BUT NOT BECAUSE OF YOU. I'M JUST SAYING I'M NOT SURE I WOULD WANT THAT IN THERE.
JUST I THINK LEAVING IT LIKE IT IS IS WAY BETTER TO ME.
I THINK I THINK IT'S A FAIR POINT, IS I CAN EXTEND ALL I WANT BY ASKING PROBING QUESTIONS OF WHOEVER SPEAKING, RIGHT. I THINK THAT'S VERY FAIR. OKAY. WITHDRAWN.
I THINK IT'S A FAIR POINT. I'M GLAD WE'RE DIGGING INTO THIS.
I MEAN, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A WE HAVE A PROCESS THAT'S FAIR TO EVERYBODY.
SO AND I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND THAT WHILE WE'RE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CURRENTLY SITTING ON THIS COUNCIL, THIS IS NOT ABOUT US AND HOW WE HANDLE IT. THIS IS FOR FUTURE COUNCILS AND MAYORS.
I'M ALSO IMPRESSED AT THE AMOUNT OF TIME WE DO GIVE COMPARED TO A LOT OF OUR PEER CITIES.
WE SEEM TO BE ON THE HIGHER END. SO THAT'S GREAT.
ANYTHING ELSE? SO IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH I THINK I THINK WE'RE OKAY WITH THESE.
GREAT. SO THIS SLIDE JUST REALLY DEALS WITH THE RULES OF DECORUM.
SO THIS IS A STATEMENT THAT THE MAYOR READS AT VISITOR'S FORUM.
WE DID NOTICE THAT A LOT OF THE OTHER CITIES HAVE LANGUAGE LIKE THIS IN THEIR POLICY.
HOWEVER, WE DO NOT HAVE LANGUAGE LIKE THIS. AND SO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS TO ADD THIS LANGUAGE INTO OUR POLICY AND TAKE OUT THE PART WHERE IT SAYS SPEAKERS WILL BE ALLOWED FIVE MINUTES FOR TESTIMONY, BECAUSE THAT IS ADDRESSED IN IN OTHER AREAS.
SO THAT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO ADD THIS LANGUAGE.
I'D LIKE TO REMOVE THE ADDRESS THAT'S COMING UP.
OKAY. OKAY. GOOD IDEA. WE'D LIKE TO REMOVE THE ADDRESS.
THEY FILL THAT OUT ON THEIR SPEAKER CARD. SO IF THERE IS A MATTER OF PUBLIC RECORD ON WHERE SOMEBODY IS FROM, WE GET THAT INFORMATION. BUT I REALLY DON'T LIKE.
I MEAN, I'M READING MY ADDRESS OUT TO THE PUBLIC RECORD.
IT'S GOING ON YOUTUBE. SOMEBODY DOESN'T AGREE WITH ME.
THEY NOW HAVE MY ADDRESS. WHAT HAPPENS WITH THOSE SPEAKER CARDS? ARE THEY POSTED? THE SPEAKER CARDS AREN'T POSTED NOW, BUT YOU CAN DO AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST AND GET THAT INFORMATION RIGHT.
BUT IT IS ON THE VIDEO AND THEN IT IS ALSO, IF THEY SAY IT OUT LOUD RIGHT NOW, WHEN THEY SAY IT OUT LOUD, IT'S ON THE VIDEO. SO EVERYBODY SEES IT, RIGHT? AND THE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THAT RIGHT NOW? NO, BUT WE ARE IN A MINUTE BECAUSE I HAVE A, I HAVE A, AN ADDITIONAL A NUANCE. YES. OKAY. SO WHEN WE GET YEAH I THINK WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT IN A SECOND.
BUT I'LL HOLD. BUT I DO HAVE BUT I'M HOLDING FIRST SO YOU HAVE TO WAIT.
SO WE'RE GOOD WITH THIS SINCE IT'S ADDRESSED. YOU'RE THE SECOND. OKAY.
OKAY. I'D LIKE TO REQUEST MORE TIME FROM THE MAYOR, PLEASE.
SO THIS SLIDE TALKS ABOUT THE USE OF AV SYSTEM FOR SPEAKER PRESENTATIONS.
SO OUR CURRENT PRACTICE IS THAT WE ALLOW THE APPLICANT THE ABILITY TO USE THE AV SYSTEM.
BUT ALL OTHER SPEAKERS ARE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT PAPER COPIES.
AND IF YOU'RE IF YOU LOOK AT OUR SURVEY CITIES, THEY'RE THEY'RE KIND OF SPLIT ON THIS.
SEVEN SURVEY CITIES DO NOT ALLOW THE USE OF THE AV SYSTEM.
ONE OF THEM THE AFTERNOON OF THE MEETING, ALL THE WAY UP TO TWO DAYS PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
AND OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON THIS IS TO CONTINUE OUR CURRENT PRACTICE OF ALLOWING THE APPLICANT TO USE THE AV SYSTEM AND THEN REQUIRING THE SUBMITTAL OF PAPER COPIES FROM ALL OTHER SPEAKERS. I FEEL LIKE ALLOWING EVERYBODY TO BRING IN THEIR OWN PRESENTATIONS IS GOING TO BE A LOGISTICAL NIGHTMARE. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW, WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE TIME THAT THEY GET TO SPEAK, BUT THERE'S TIME BETWEEN EACH ONE THAT NOW IS, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO GET THE PRESENTATION LOADED AND YOU GOT TO GET IT PULLED UP.
AND, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE HAVE ISSUES WITH THE AV SYSTEM AND IT'S NOT WORKING.
[00:40:03]
A LOT OF TIMES I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT THE AV SYSTEM, BUT SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THERE'S AND THERE'S JUST NOT EVERYBODY IS USING POWERPOINT EITHER.SO WE'RE NOT ALL IN THE SAME. YEAH. I MEAN EVERYBODY KNOWS THE, THE, THE, THE NEXT GENERATION.
AND YOU KNOW TO THERE ARE MY POINT IS THAT THERE'S A VARIETY OF OPTIONS.
SO I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO COME IN SURPRISE, A DIFFERENT SIDE OF THIS.
THIS IS THIS IS SOMETHING I ACTUALLY FEEL VERY PASSIONATELY ABOUT. THIS IS PRESENTATION.
SOFTWARE IS AN $8 BILLION INDUSTRY. THERE'S A REASON IT'S $8 BILLION.
EVERYBODY USES IT ALL THE TIME IN THEIR WORK.
MOST EVERYBODY DOES. I DON'T WANT TO EXTRAPOLATE THIS OUT TO SAY, WELL, WHAT IF WE HAD 100 SPEAKERS AND EVERYBODY BROUGHT IN A POWERPOINT DECK? AND I'M NOT I'M NOT GOING TO GO TO THAT EXTREME.
COULD HAPPEN. PROBABLY WON'T HAPPEN. I DO THINK THAT THERE'S LIKE TEN OTHER CITIES THAT ARE DOING IT WITHOUT IT BEING A FIASCO, RIGHT? THERE'S TEN CITIES. THEY FIGURED IT OUT.
BUT WAIT, WAIT. LET ME. LET ME FINISH. LET ME FINISH.
SO I DO THINK THERE'S. AND THERE'S RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT WE CAN HAVE AROUND THIS ABOUT HOW TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN TWO DAYS BEFOREHAND, THREE DAYS BEFOREHAND. MAKE SURE IT GETS SCANNED FOR ANTIVIRUS.
YOU CAN'T JUST WALK IN, GO TO THE PODIUM, SAY, PUT THIS IN FOR ME.
I THINK IT'S VERY UNFAIR TO LET A DEVELOPER OR ANYBODY ELSE WHO'S WHO'S AN APPLICANT, PRESENT A PROFESSIONAL MANNER AND THEN HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE COME UP WITH, YOU KNOW, FRANKLY, THE EQUIVALENT OF 1986 STACK OF PAPER THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT.
I THINK I THINK THAT THERE'S AN OPTICS TO THAT.
THAT'S UNFAIR. OKAY. BUT COULD THEY NOT CREATE A PRESENTATION AND PRINT IT OUT AND GIVE IT TO US.
STAFF SHOULD DO THE SAME THING. SO EITHER EVERYBODY GETS A FEE OR NOBODY GETS A FEE.
I THINK IT'S UNFAIR TO HAVE ONE SIDE DO IT AND THE OTHER SIDE DON'T. OKAY.
MY MY TAKE. AND THIS IS A CONSUMPTION ISSUE. I CAN'T SEE THE PRESENTATION.
I DON'T SEE IT ON THE SCREENS. IT SHOWS UP ON MY LITTLE SCREEN.
I WANT TO GO BACK TO A SLIDE THAT THEY. BECAUSE.
BECAUSE THEY'RE NERVOUS AND THEY'RE FLIPPING FORWARD TOO FAST. AND THIS SLIDE HAD THE INFORMATION THAT I WANTED, BUT WE'RE ON TO SOME OTHER SLIDE THAT THEY FEEL IS MORE RELEVANT, BUT THIS ONE IS REALLY SINGING TO ME. I HAVE I HAVE TO HAVE A PAPER PRESENTATION.
THAT'S JUST THE THAT'S GOING TO GIVE THEM THE MOST OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO HEAR THEM.
SO THAT THAT'S MY TAKE ON THIS. IF I JUST GET AN AV VERSION, YOU'RE, YOU'RE YOU'RE ACTUALLY AT A DISADVANTAGE WHEN I'M PAYING ATTENTION TO TO THE ARGUMENT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF I DON'T KNOW IF TECHNOLOGY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER HELPS OR HURTS.
I THINK IT'S JUST ANOTHER TOOL IN THE CONVERSATION.
I DO GET THE IF ONE SIDE GETS TO USE IT, WHY DOESN'T THE OTHER? I GET THAT, AND MAYBE THAT'S MAYBE THAT'S OKAY.
MAYBE THAT ALL SHOWS UP IN PAPER AT THAT POINT.
AND YOU KNOW THAT THEY GET A CONVERSATION THAT WAY.
THAT WOULD WORK BETTER FOR ME, ACTUALLY, BECAUSE IT WOULD WORK BECAUSE THE DEVELOPERS DO THE SAME THING TO ME IS THEY'RE FLIPPING PAST. I'M LIKE, NO, NO, I WANT TO SEE THAT ELEVATION AGAIN. AND WE HAVE THAT, THAT HAPPENS.
SO I PERSONALLY 80S WORKED. AS LONG AS THE PLAYING FIELD WAS EVEN IN MY HEAD, NOBODY WAS.
HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE WE HAD REQUESTS TO USE THE AVE? IS THIS RIGHT HERE? HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE WE HAD? REQUEST TO USE THE REQUESTED. IT MAY HAPPEN EVERY THREE MONTHS.
WE MAY GET A REQUEST, BUT MAYBE NOT EVEN THAT OFTEN.
I'VE HAD A TOTAL OF MAYBE THREE, BUT HAVE THEY REQUESTED AN ADVANCE OR WHEN THEY GET HERE, IT'S GENERALLY WHEN THEY GET HERE SO THAT WE WOULD THAT WILL WORK IF WE HAD A ROLE THAT REQUIRED ADVANCED, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE EVEN THAT OFTEN, BUT I'VE HAD I'VE HAD A COUPLE PEOPLE ASK ME POINT OUT WITH BLANK, I WANT TO USE AV. CAN I USE AV? FURTHER BACK OVER TO JENNIFER AND POLICY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
[00:45:02]
THEREFORE NOBODY WANTS TO DO IT. I THINK PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TOLD NO, DIDN'T KNOW THEY COULD DO IT.I'VE USED AV AND YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD AN ARGUMENT I WANT TO MAKE.
I USE AV BECAUSE IT'S HORRIBLE. IT'S AN EASIER WAY TO DO IT WELL.
AND THIS IS PROBABLY FOR AN EXTENDED CONVERSATION WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT TEAM. SO MY DEVELOPMENT TEAM, YOU GUYS COME IN AND RICHARD, YOU GIVE US A GREAT PRESENTATION OF WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE, WHAT THE WHAT THE CITY'S DONE, WHAT STAFF'S TRIED TO FIGURE OUT, AND THEN THE DEVELOPER KIND OF COMES IN AND IT AND IT'S KIND OF BOTH OF YOU TALKING FOR THE SAME THING. AND I'M. AND I'M, I'M MAYBE I'M MAYBE I'M SPEAKING FOR YOU INSTEAD OF.
LET'S FIND OUT. BUT LET'S BUT IT FEELS LIKE MAYBE THE TWO OF YOU ARE MAKING ONE BIG PRESENTATION TOGETHER, AS OPPOSED TO THE CITY'S PRESENTATION. IT HAS TAKE ON THIS THING.
THEN THE DEVELOPER AND THEIR TEN MINUTES, AND THEN RESIDENTS AND THEIR FIVE MINUTES.
I CONCUR, BUT I THINK THAT'S THE NATURAL ORDER OF THINGS BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER I USE DEVELOPER, GENERICALLY SPEAKING, IT'S ANY APPLICANT YOU WORK WITH, STAFF THEY WORK WITH, THEY'VE WORKED WITH, WITH RICHARD, THEY THEY'VE COME TO A CONCLUSION THAT THEY FEEL GOOD ABOUT PRESENTING TO COUNCIL.
SO IT'S A VERY NATURAL THING FOR THAT TO BE A UNIFIED MESSAGE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET TO FOR TWO MONTHS OR SIX MONTHS OR WHATEVER IT IS. SO I SEE WHY THAT IS. BUT THEN THEY'RE ACTUALLY GETTING AN UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME BECAUSE STAFF DOESN'T HAVE ANY TIME LIMITS.
YEAH. SO. SO ARE YOU SAYING UNLIMITED TIME FOR SPEAKERS? THAT'S WHAT I'M JUST SAYING. THE IMPRESSION. AND IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FAIRNESS IF IF THERE'S MORE OF A DELINEATION BETWEEN STAFF'S PRESENTATION AND THE DEVELOPER'S PRESENTATION, WOULD THAT GIVE YOU MORE COMFORT? I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW YOU WOULD DO THAT, HONESTLY, BECAUSE I THINK I NEED STAFF'S OPINION ON THE THINGS THAT PRESENT THE DEVELOPERS HAVE PUT FORTH. SO I DON'T KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO GET STAFF'S OPINION. THEY'RE GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH THAT. BUT THEN THE DEVELOPER MIGHT JUST SAY, I'M GOING TO TAKE TEN MINUTES TO GIVE YOU MY SALES PITCH. EITHER AVI IS EITHER IT'S EITHER A TOOL OR IT'S NOT A TOOL.
OKAY. I THINK IT IS A TOOL. I THINK IT SHOULD BE USED UNIVERSALLY.
AND I THINK WITH WITH SOME GUIDANCE ON, YOU GOT TO SUBMIT TWO DAYS AND TWO DAYS AND THREE DAYS IN ADVANCE, WHATEVER IT IS. I THINK IT'S A TOOL. I THINK IT'S POWERFUL TOOL.
CLEARLY PEOPLE USE IT IN SALES PRESENTATIONS ALL THE TIME TO SELL, AND PEOPLE WANT TO COME UP HERE AND THEY SPEAK REGARDLESS OF WHAT SIDE YOU'RE ON, YOU'RE SELLING. AND I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE EVERY TOOL AVAILABLE, ESPECIALLY TOOLS THEY PAID FOR THAT.
AB EQUIPMENT IS PAID FOR BY TAXPAYER DOLLARS. THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE IT. I JUST I DON'T WANT THIS TO BECOME SOMETHING THAT IS CONSUMING A GREAT DEAL OF STAFF. TIME TO, TO GET ALL THIS STUFF KIND OF FORMATTED AND YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT 30 SPEAKERS AND WHAT ORDER ARE THEY GOING IN? AND, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE GET EVERYTHING CUED UP? I, I MEAN, I, I FEEL LIKE WITH A, WITH STAFF'S PRESENTATION, I MEAN, STAFF'S PRESENTATION IS WE GOT TO GET THE FACTS OF THE CASE AND WE'RE GETTING THAT IN A POSTED AGENDA IN THE BACKUP INFORMATION.
ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL PUBLIC INFORMATION. SO I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO I MEAN.
IF YOU WANT TO GO THERE, I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S PUBLIC RECORD.
THAT'S POSTED BEFORE. SO, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S ANY WAY THAT WE COULD SAY THAT WE GOT TO MAKE AN APPLICANT AND WE GOT TO GIVE AN APPLICANT AND, AND ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THAT APPLICANT, I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET THE TWO COMPLETELY EQUAL IN ALL OF IT BECAUSE YOU WON'T. SO BUT BUT THAT'S WHAT I, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO TALK ABOUT HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE GET IT LIKE AN EVEN, EVEN PLAYING FIELD.
THEY'RE THE ONES WITH THE RISK AND EVERYTHING AT STAKE.
SO I'M I'M OKAY WITH ALLOWING THEM TO PRESENT THAT WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO? IN A WAY THAT WE CAN ADEQUATELY GET ALL THE DETAILS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE, THE DECISION WE NEED TO MAKE WITHOUT HAVING TO SAY, WELL, IF WE GIVE THEM THIS TEN MINUTES, THEN WE GOT TO GIVE THEM TEN MINUTES AND WE GOT TO GIVE EVERYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THE ABILITY TO COME UP AND MAKE A PRESENTATION. I JUST THINK IT'S I JUST THINK IT CAN GET REAL MESSY AND REAL OUT OF HAND REAL FAST.
[00:50:01]
I AGREE ON SOME OF THIS. I DISAGREE THAT THE THAT THE APPLICANT IS THE ONLY PERSON THAT HAS A FINANCIAL INTEREST IN WHAT'S GOING ON.I THINK THE VERY REASON WHY WE GET 30 PEOPLE OUT THERE IS BECAUSE THEY ALL FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE A FINANCIAL INTEREST IN WHAT'S HAPPENING, AND THOSE PEOPLE OUT THERE HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE DECISIONS THAT ARE BEING MADE ABOUT COUNCIL.
IF THEY WANT TO CREATE A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION AND SEND IT TO ME.
I, I JUST DON'T. I DON'T. YES EVERYBODY IS. THE APPLICANT IS NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO IS FINANCIALLY INVESTED. HOWEVER, THEY ARE THE ONE WITH THE MOST AT STAKE.
SO AND NOT TO SAY THAT EVERYBODY AROUND THEM IS ALSO NOT.
BUT I ALSO KNOW I'VE BEEN DOING THIS LONG ENOUGH THAT IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THE GREAT THING THAT THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO SAY, AND IT'S NOT THE HORRIBLE THING THAT EVERYBODY AROUND IT IS PRESENTING IT AS EITHER.
SO I MEAN, I. I JUST DON'T I'M, I'M NOT REALLY IN SUPPORT OF USING THE AV SYSTEM.
IN SHORT, I DON'T REALLY FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO GO THERE.
I JUST DON'T WANT TO. JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE, SO I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD CONCUR THAT TYPICALLY THE APPLICANT ON A VECTOR HAS MOST AT RISK. I WOULD I WOULD DISAGREE HEARTILY THAT THEY HAVE THE MOST RISK.
BECAUSE IF I GO THROUGH AND LOOK AT MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT I KNOW, THE SINGLE BIGGEST INVESTMENT IN THEIR HOUSE. SO I WOULD THINK THAT IF THEY GO THROUGH AND THEY AND THAT DEPRECIATES DRASTICALLY, THEY'VE LOST A LOT MORE THAN THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO LOSE FROM A PERCENTAGE BASIS. BUT NOT ALL APPLICANTS ARE DEVELOPERS. SOME PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY DEVELOPING A HOME ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY. I UNDERSTAND WE'VE USED THE WORD DEVELOPER HERE GENERICALLY, AND I AND I'M NOT PICKING ON DEVELOPERS, BUT YOU CAN PUT PUT WHATEVER YOU WANT TO IN THAT STEAD. AND I WILL SAY THAT THERE'S A FALLACY OF EXTRAPOLATION.
SO I JUST I CAN'T IF WE IF WE DIDN'T ALLOW PEOPLE TO SPEAK RIGHT NOW, WE WERE HAVING A DISCUSSION ABOUT SHOULD WE ALLOW PEOPLE TO COME IN AND SPEAK, WE'D BE HAVING THE SAME DISCUSSION ABOUT, WELL, WHAT IF 57 PEOPLE SHOW UP? THREE MINUTES. WE'D BE HAVING THE SAME DISCUSSION, JUST ON A DIFFERENT TOPIC. AND LET ME TAKE LET ME TAKE IT OUT OF THAT ADVERSARIAL REAL QUICK. BECAUSE YOU COULD HAVE JUST SOMEBODY COMING UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND WHATEVER THEIR PARTICULAR AGENDA IS, THEY'VE GOT A POWERPOINT. I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT YET, BUT IT'S COMING.
OR THEY HAVE A YOUTUBE THAT THEY WANT. BUT THEY'LL SLIP IN THERE.
SO, SO SO THERE'S, THERE'S A NECESSITY FOR MAYBE SOME GUARDRAILS IN THIS CONVERSATION.
YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS. SO, SO THAT'S ONE. ANOTHER EXAMPLE IN MY PERSONAL WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING OUR SEXUALLY ORIENTED BUSINESS ORDINANCES SEVERAL YEARS AGO, THE BODY PAINT ARTIST FOR THE ORGANIZATION CAME WITH THREE RING BINDERS OF ALL THE BEAUTIFUL ART THAT SHE HAD DONE. YOU THOUGHT THE MAYOR HAD BEEN BIT BY A RATTLESNAKE WHEN THAT HIT HIS DESK? I WAS NOT THE MAYOR AT THE TIME, BUT THOSE PICTURES ARE PRETTY PRURIENT.
IF IF, I MEAN, THEY THEY WAS NOT A WHOLE LOT THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO PUT UP ON A PUBLIC TELEVISION.
BUT AGAIN, CONTEXT, THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.
THOSE ARE ARE THEY ONE OFFS? SURE. COULD THEY HAPPEN? DID THEY HAVE HAPPENED? LET ME LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION. IF THEY IF SOMEBODY HAD STOOD UP IN THE BACK WITH A POSTER THEY PRINTED OUT OF ONE OF THOSE PICTURES, WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED? THEY IS IT IS IT IS IT ON OUR YOUTUBE? NO. WE CAST EVERYTHING, DON'T WE? WE DON'T HAVE A CAMERA GO IN THAT DIRECTION.
I WHEN I WATCH THE VIDEOS, I SEE THE ENTIRE I SEE THE CHAMBER. AND I ALSO SEE CUTS OVER TO THE.
I MEAN, I CAN SEE IF THEY WERE STANDING AT THE BACK DOOR.
YOU YOU DON'T SEE THE BACK DOOR, BUT IF THEY WERE STANDING ON ONE OF THE WINGS AND DID THAT.
YEAH, YEAH, THEY COULD POSSIBLY. CAN I ASK THE QUESTION I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT TEN MINUTES AGO.
THAT IS, THE WORDING HERE DOES NOT SPECIFICALLY KEEP THIS AT A PUBLIC HEARING LEVEL.
RIGHT. TO ME, IT BLANKETS ALL OF IT SO WE CAN HAVE PRESENTATIONS ON EVERYTHING.
SO WE NEED SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. BUT I ALSO WANT TO KNOW ABOUT TO PROPERLY SCREEN THIS FOR CYBERSECURITY STUFF, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE TYPE OF EMAILS THAT KRISTEN AND I HAVE RECEIVED, I WOULD NOT PUT IT PAST PEOPLE TO PUT SOMETHING UP THERE JUST
[00:55:10]
FOR THE SHOCK AND AWE OF IT. BUT I IT WOULD BE SCREENING FOR MALICIOUS CONTENT LIKE THAT.BUT HOW HOW MUCH ADVANCEMENT WOULD YOU NEED THE PRESENTATION? IF WE GET THIS ON A WEDNESDAY AND IT GOES OUT PUBLIC ON WEDNESDAY.
AS FAR AS THE MODEL LOOKING AT AT TWO BUSINESS DAYS, I THINK WOULD BE ADEQUATE TIME FOR US BECAUSE WE'D LIKE TO LOOK AT ANYTHING COMING FROM THE PUBLIC, REALLY IN A ZERO TRUST MODEL. AND WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE'D TAKE THAT PRESENTATION AND WE WOULD OPEN IT UP IN A SANDBOX ENVIRONMENT.
THE PROBLEM WITH DOING IT REAL TIME, WE DO HAVE ENDPOINT PROTECTION ON THESE LAPTOPS.
BUT AGAIN THAT'S IT SHOULD CATCH IT RIGHT? THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
AND NUMBER TWO YOU DON'T WANT THAT TO BE WHAT'S HAPPENING OUT IN YOUR PUBLIC FORUM RIGHT.
IS THAT IT COMES UP AND WE'VE GOT SOMETHING THAT'S TRULY INFECTED.
I MEAN, IN LIGHT OF A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED WITH THE THE MUNICIPALITIES AROUND HERE, THE HOSPITAL SYSTEMS, I CAN GO ON AND ON. ABSOLUTELY.
BUT TO YOUR QUESTION, WE WOULD PREFER TWO BUSINESS DAYS, IF AT ALL.
YOU KNOW WHAT? IF YOU GET TEN OF THESE AT ONCE, THAT VOLUME IS NOT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE VOLUME AS MUCH AS IT IS TRULY SCHEDULING IT OUT. RIGHT. BECAUSE I WOULD WANT MY SECURITY PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY DO IT.
AND SO IF YOU'RE DOING IT THE DAY OF, IT'S NOT REALLY SO MUCH THE TIME.
IT'S REALLY THE SCHEDULING. RIGHT. ON OUR PART AS FAR AS RESOURCES.
SO WHETHER IT WAS 1 OR 10, IF WE HAD, YOU KNOW, TWO BUSINESS DAYS, IT WOULD BE APPLICABLE FOR US.
WE COME BACK AND SAY, MAN, WE TRIED THAT AND IT WENT TO HELL.
LET'S COME BACK AND REVIEW THAT POLICY AGAIN. THAT'S AT THE DISCRETION OF COUNSEL. WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT. BUT I'D RATHER NOT WORRY ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF 1000 PEOPLE GIVING PRESENTATIONS ALL AT ONE TIME. LET'S SEE IF IT HAPPENS FIRST.
THEN WE CAN ADDRESS THAT AS ONE, AS A POLICY ADJUSTMENT.
THAT'S WHAT I DO. AND CHRIS, TO YOUR POINT, ACTUALLY OPEN UP IN A SANDBOX.
I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT AV EQUIPMENT IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE USER.
SO IF SOMETHING DOES GO IN THERE, IT GETS IT GETS CONTAINED.
IT CAN'T PROPAGATE OUT AS A RANSOMWARE. SO I'M ASSUMING YOU HAVE ALL THOSE THINGS BESIDES JUST YOU'VE GOT LAYERS OF SECURITY, NOT JUST ONE PROTECTION, I'M ASSUMING. THAT IS CORRECT, SIR.
OKAY. AND HOW DO WE SECURE. LET'S SAY THEY SUBMIT THEIR THING.
THEY HAVE ANY OPPORTUNITY WHEN THEY BRING THAT DOCUMENT MONDAY NIGHT TO CHANGE THAT DOCUMENT.
THAT WOULD BE PROBLEMATIC. SO YOU'D REALLY WANT TO GO WITH YOUR FIRST REVISION THAT WE'VE REVIEWED.
NOW WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE GETTING FROM THEM IS THE SAME DOCUMENT.
IS THERE ANY DO THEY HAVE ANY OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE THAT DOCUMENT BY MONDAY NIGHT? SO IN THE MANNER IN WHICH WE'RE SPEAKING, THEY WOULD SUBMIT IT TO US TWO BUSINESS DAYS PRIOR AND THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY REVISION, YOU KNOW, CAPABILITIES. THEY'RE NOT IN CONTROL OF PLUGGING IT IN.
THEY ARE. YEAH. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. I THINK I WANT SOME MORE CLARITY ON THIS.
AND. THE THOUGHTS I COULD JUST SEE SOME MAJOR THINGS GOING ON WITH OUR OLD SYSTEM.
HAVE WE HAD. JENNIFER, YOU WERE LOOKING INTO THIS. WHAT MAJOR THINGS HAVE WE SEEN FOR THOSE OTHER TEN SURVEY CITIES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT? WHAT CAN WE LEARN FROM THEM ABOUT DOING THIS? OUR SURVEY REALLY JUST WAS WHETHER OR NOT THEY ALLOW IT.
I MEAN, I CAN FIND OUT MORE INFORMATION FROM THEM IF YOU'D LIKE, ABOUT HOW IT'S WORKING. YEAH.
I MEAN, THERE'S A COUNCILMAN CADE IS LOOKING FOR, I THINK.
YEAH. WHAT ARE THE GOTCHAS? YEAH. ARE THEY AFFECTED THE WHOLE SYSTEM WITH RANSOMWARE? YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THOSE GUYS? AND JUST BECAUSE IT HASN'T HAPPENED.
SO DON'T BE POKING AT ME LIKE THAT, OKAY? JUST BECAUSE IT HASN'T HAPPENED DOESN'T MEAN IT WON'T HAPPEN, OKAY? JUST BECAUSE. JUST BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DONE IT DOESN'T MEAN WE SHOULDN'T DO IT. THAT'S RIGHT.
IS IT REGULAR HEARINGS, PUBLIC HEARINGS. YEAH.
THAT'S AND WE NEED TO IRON THAT OUT TOO BECAUSE.
THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER THING. OKAY. I CAN SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT I'M NOT SO SURE I WANT IT ON EVERY SINGLE THING THAT COMES TO PASS AND COMES ACROSS. WE CAN KIND OF IRON THAT OUT. AND I KNOW WE'RE NOT GIVING YOU ANY DIRECTION AT ALL.
[01:00:05]
HAVE HAVE ENCOUNTERED. I THINK YOU'RE WANTING, AT THE VERY MINIMUM, SOME CONVERSATION AROUND WHERE IN THE CITY, WHERE IN THE MEETING AVE IS ALLOWED OR IT'S NOT.I DON'T I'M HEARING MAYBE NOT BLANKET AVI JUST SPECIFIC.
AVI. WELL, I THINK I THINK YOU'VE GOT SOME DIRECTION THERE.
I THINK YOU COULD EVEN GO SO FAR AS TO SAY IT MUST BE PDF.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE PREZI AND CANVA AND EVERY OTHER THING I THINK.
I THINK THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITY TO STANDARDIZE THAT STUFF. COUNCILWOMAN CADE I WASN'T I WASN'T POKING AT YOU. I WANT YOU TO JUST SAY NO, NO NO NO NO, NO. WHAT I WAS SAYING EVERYBODY, NOT EVERYBODY, BUT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF GENERALITIES.
NO, I THINK THAT'S A FAIR CONVERSATION. I APPRECIATE I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY KIND OF DIGGING INTO IT. I MEAN, THIS I MEAN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE'S RIGHTS, THEIR FREEDOM OF SPEECH. AND WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S THERE'S A STRUCTURE AROUND THAT. SO IT'S IT'S IT'S A EFFECTIVE USE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS ALL THE WAY AROUND. SO I APPRECIATE I APPRECIATE THE CONTEXT.
I APPRECIATE THE THOUGHTS. YOU ALL DIG IN, GIVE JENNIFER ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT YOU THINK YOU MIGHT NEED? YEAH, WE GOT WE GOT TIME. WE HAVE TIME. WE NEED TO DO THIS RIGHT.
NOTHING WE HAVE IS BROKEN, SO WE'RE NOT EVEN.
CAN I MAKE ONE? ONE MORE THING I JUST THOUGHT ABOUT THAT IS, YOU KNOW, I ALSO WANT TO.
I WANT TO BE ABLE TO SET AN EXPECTATION THAT IF WE DO ALLOW SOMEBODY TO GET UP AND GIVE A PRESENTATION, THERE'S STILL A TIME LIMIT. THAT IS THAT THAT IS THE THAT STILL IS WHAT SUPERSEDES YOUR PRESENTATION.
SO IF YOU COME IN KNOWING YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES AND YOU YOU BRING IN A 20 SLIDE PRESENTATION, I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO GET UPSET IF THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO GET THROUGH THEIR WHOLE PRESENTATION BECAUSE THEY RAN OUT OF TIME.
YEAH. SO OKAY, I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME ON THIS.
I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. SO AND I'M EXCITED TO SEE TWO THINGS.
NUMBER ONE, WE GIVE MORE TIME THAN MOST CITIES DO.
SO WE ARE ALREADY IN A PRETTY GOOD PLACE. I THINK ALL WE'RE DOING IS, IS WE'RE FINDING IT SO THAT SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER COMES DOWN NEXT DOESN'T HAVE TO.
IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT A FIRST TIME THEY SEE IT.
SO WE STILL HAVE ONE ISSUE TO GO THROUGH. YEAH WE DO.
OKAY. GOOD. SORRY. YEAH. THERE IT IS. THE LAST ONE.
LAST ITEM. OKAY. SORRY ABOUT THAT. SO A SCHOOL PROTOCOL RIGHT NOW, WE, THE SPEAKERS ASKED TO APPROACH THE PODIUM AND STATE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. AGAIN, LOOKING AT OUR SURVEY CITIES, YOU KNOW, THE MAJORITY OF OUR SURVEY CITIES ALSO HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT.
THERE'S A FEW THAT DON'T, AND THERE'S ONE THAT'S CONSIDERING CHANGING IT.
THE REASON THIS CAME UP IS STAFF HAS CONCERNS.
SOME CONCERNS THIS MAY CAUSE SOME SECURITY ISSUES FOR RESIDENTS HAVING TO STATE THEIR NAME.
I'M SORRY, STATE THEIR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
SO OUR RECOMMENDATION ON THIS IS FOR IS TO REQUIRE THE SPEAKER TO STATE THEIR NAME AND CITY.
FOR THE RECORD, SO LONG AS THEY HAVE FILLED OUT THE ADDRESS ON THEIR SPEAKER CARD.
YEAH, I WAS GOING TO SAY THE SAME THING. AND IF THEY HAVEN'T FILLED OUT THEIR FULL ADDRESS ON THE SPEAKER CARD, THEN WHAT? THEY'LL BE REQUIRED TO HAVE TO PUT AN ADDRESS ON THE SPEAKER CARD.
THERE'S NOTHING. YEAH, THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS I DON'T I CAN ALWAYS PUT ONE, TWO, THREE MAIN STREET. OH I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THAT YOU DON'T KNOW. NOT EVERYBODY'S NOT EVERYBODY'S A RULE FOLLOWER. I LIVE ON SEVEN, SEVEN, SEVEN SUCKER ROAD. YEAH, BUT I, I LIKE THIS SOLUTION.
I THINK THAT COVERS MY CONCERNS. ALL RIGHT. I LIKE IT.
OKAY. ARE WE GOOD? I'M GOOD. WE'RE GOOD THERE.
OKAY. NOTHING MORE. OKAY. DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW. WE'RE DONE. WE'RE DONE.
HEY GREAT JOB GUYS. ARE WE DONE WITH THAT? YEAH.
WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK INTO REGULAR SESSION. AND FIRST UP, I HAVE A PROCLAMATION DOWN THERE.
[C. Proclamations / Recognitions]
ALL RIGHT. PD. IS THIS ONE FROM. WHO HAVE I GOT PICKING THIS ONE UP? GINA IS IT BRIAN. OH, BRIAN. OKAY.THERE WE GO. THERE WE ARE. GOOD NEIGHBOR DAY.
SORRY. IT CAME. IT CAME THROUGH PD FOR ME FOR SOME REASON.
I DON'T KNOW WHY I'M THINKING. HOW ARE YOU, BRIAN?
[01:05:02]
GOOD, GOOD. GLAD YOU'RE HERE. ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE A NATIONAL GOOD NEIGHBOR DAY.SO ISN'T THAT LIKE THE DEFAULT? YOU'RE JUST SUPPOSED TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
WE HAVE A DAY FOR THIS. YOU HAVE TO. WE HAVE TO.
OKAY. I LIKE IT, I LIKE THAT WE'RE UPLIFTING IT.
IT'S GOOD. SO TODAY, I GIVE THE THE JOY TO GIVE A PROCLAMATION FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES TEAM.
AND WE'LL JUST GO RIGHT THROUGH HERE BECAUSE THERE ARE A FEW WAREHOUSES TO GET WAREHOUSES TO GET THROUGH. SO FIRST IS, WHEREAS NEIGHBORHOODS ARE VITAL TO SAFE, HEALTHY AND INCLUSIVE COMMUNITIES, YET MANY AMERICANS DO NOT KNOW THEIR NEIGHBORS AND OFTEN VIEW A GOOD NEIGHBOR AS ONE WHO KEEPS TO THEMSELVES. AND WHEREAS RISING ISOLATION AND LONELINESS UNDERMINE PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH, REDUCE LIFE EXPECTANCY, WEAKEN SOCIAL COHESION, AND DIMINISH OVERALL WELL-BEING.
AND WHEREAS STRONG NEIGHBOR RELATIONSHIPS ENHANCE HEALTH RESILIENCE, CIVIC ENGAGEMENT, CRIME PREVENTION, DISASTER RESPONSE, AND ULTIMATELY CREATE SAFER, HEALTHIER AND MORE INCLUSIVE COMMUNITIES. AND WHEREAS TO SUPPORT THE BIG MOVE DIVERSE AND THRIVING NEIGHBORHOODS, THE CITY EMPOWERS RESIDENTS THROUGH GRANTS AND PROGRAMS SUCH AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT PROGRAM, LOVE YOUR BLOCK MINI GRANT, AND ROCK THE BLOCK TRAILER. NOW, THEREFORE, I, TJ GILMORE, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF LEWISVILLE, ON BEHALF OF THE LEWISVILLE CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 28TH, 2025, AS NATIONAL GOOD NEIGHBOR DAY IN LEWISVILLE, TEXAS, AND ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS TO OBSERVE THIS DAY BY INTRODUCING THEMSELVES, GETTING TO KNOW THEM, AND CONNECTING WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS. WITH THAT, LET'S GIVE BRIAN A HAND FOR ALL THE WORK HE DOES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES TEAM.
HAVING LIVED IN OLD TOWN LEWISVILLE FOR MORE THAN TEN YEARS, I HAVE WITNESSED FIRSTHAND THE SPIRIT OF KINDNESS, CONNECTION, AND THE SERVICE THAT MAKES THIS COMMUNITY SO SPECIAL.
TOGETHER, WE CAN MAKE LEWISVILLE NOT ONLY A STRONGER CITY, BUT A WELCOMING HOME FOR ALL.
WHERE DID I LOSE MY AGENDA? YEAH, APPARENTLY I LEFT MINE IN THE OTHER ROOM.
[1. Public Hearing: Consideration of an Ordinance Adopting the FY 2025-2026 Tax Rate.]
LEWISVILLE, TEXAS, FOR THE YEAR 2025 2026. UPON ALL TAXABLE PROPERTY IN SAID CITY, IN CONFORMITY WITH THE LAWS OF THE STATE OF TEXAS AND THE CHARTER PROVISIONS AND ORDINANCES OF SAID CITY. PROVIDING REPEALER, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW. PUBLIC HEARING IS BEING HELD ON THE PROPOSED TAX RATE FOR THE 2025 TAX YEAR.IF THE PROPOSED RATE EXCEEDS THE LOWER OF THE VOTER APPROVAL OR NO NEW REVENUE RATE.
THE TOTAL TAX RATE PROPOSED FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 2026 IS 0.419009.
THIS IS A DECREASE OF 0.003426 FROM THE PRIOR YEAR RATE OF 0.422435.
THE PROPOSED TAX RATE EXCEEDS THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE OF 0.409667 BY 2.3%, BUT DOES NOT EXCEED THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE OF 0.41909. SINCE THE PROPOSED TAX RATE EXCEEDS THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, SPECIFIC LANGUAGE IS REQUIRED BY ORDINANCE.
FOR THE CITY OF LEWISVILLE, THIS WOULD EQUAL TO AT LEAST FIVE VOTING MEMBERS. THE MOTION TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE MUST BE MADE USING SPECIFIC LANGUAGES FOUND IN THE RECOMMENDATION BELOW. ITS RECOMMENDATION THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE ADOPTING THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 2026 TAX RATE WITH THE FOLLOWING MOTION. I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY TAX RATE BE INCREASED BY THE ADOPTION OF A TAX RATE OF 0.41909, WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY A 2.3% INCREASE IN THE TAX RATE.
ALL RIGHT. AND THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS IS NOW OPEN.
LET'S SEE HERE. AND THIS IS IS THIS PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ONE JENNIFER. SO OKAY.
I'VE GOT SERGIO MELLADO HERE HERE TO TO SPEAK ON PUBLIC HEARING ITEM D ONE.
WOULD YOU MIND. IT'S PROBABLY SITTING RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF ME.
MR.. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. I'M SORRY.
THIS IS PREPARATION. MY POSITION. YOU'RE FINE EVERY TIME ME LEAVING HERE.
[01:10:04]
18 YEARS IN LEWISVILLE. INCREMENTS IN THE TAXES.IN MILK. IN THE CITY. THE CITY. NOW. EVERY YEAR.
EVERY YEAR. EVERY YEAR. THE GOOD HERE IN THE CITY.
LEWISVILLE. EVERY TIME IT'S THE POLICE, THE DEPARTMENT, THE POLICE.
NUMBER ONE FOR ME. IS IT ME? CHECK THE STREETS, THE GROUND.
NO GOOD. AND THE GRASS IN THE AREA? THE HEBRON AND THE 25.
EVERY TIME IS TALL. AND THE PARKS ARE NOT GOOD.
EVERY TIME ME CHECK MY PAYMENT, MY TAXES. NO REFLECTION IN THE CITY.
THIS IS. I MEAN, NOT LIKE IT. THIS IS ONE INCREMENTS.
I DON'T KNOW YOU. YOU YOU SAID THE THE THE MAYOR AND THE MONEY AND THE AND THE LEWISVILLE CITY.
THIS IS A BIG PROBLEM. EVERY TIME MY NEIGHBORS, THEY KNOW NO GOOD.
THEY FROM THE HOME. THEY THE PEOPLE LAST TWO YEARS.
THE STREETS, THE NEIGHBORS ARE GOOD. EVERY TIME THE GUYS FOR THE.
SORRY. THE WARNING FROM THE DOOR THIS LAST YEAR.
NOTHING. NOTHING. THE PEOPLE. THE PEOPLE. NO.
NO. WALKING. EVERYTHING IN THE TRUCKS. THE NOISE.
NO. IT'S GOOD. THIS IS THE LIGHTS AND THE SCHOOL.
LIGHT. THE LIGHT EVERY TIME. CHANGE THE GUYS.
THIS IS. THIS IS ONE PROBLEM. I DON'T KNOW. OKAY, I, I APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT AND THANK YOU FOR.
AND WE CAN ADDRESS ANY SPECIFIC CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR FEEDBACK. MAYOR I'M SORRY, BUT BEFORE YOU I WISH I SPOKE SPANISH.
I REALLY DO BECAUSE THIS IS IMPORTANT. IF ANYBODY.
HAVE YOU SEEN THE LEWISVILLE TEXAS APP BEFORE? AND IF SOMEBODY COULD HELP ME TRANSLATE ON MY BEHALF, THAT IS A GREAT TOOL TO REPORT THESE SORTS OF THINGS.
I WILL TELL YOU, THAT GETS TAKEN CARE OF PRETTY QUICKLY.
IT ALSO GIVES US A RECORD SO WE CAN SEE IF THERE'S HOTSPOTS IN THE AREA.
FAILING THAT, IF YOU COME BACK WITH A TICKET ID, IF YOU SEND ANYBODY ON COUNCIL OR MAYOR OR EVEN STAFF THAT TICKET NUMBER, WE CAN LOOK INTO IT FOR YOU AS WELL. BUT THERE ARE TOOLS OUT THERE AND I WISH WE COULD SEE EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME, BUT WE REALLY COUNT ON CITIZENS LIKE YOU TO COME BACK AND SAY, THIS IS WRONG. THAT'S WRONG. SO IF ANYBODY CAN HELP ME GET THAT MESSAGE, CHRIS, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING IN.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING? THERE ARE NONE.
SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND COUNCIL, IF YOU PLEASE, VOTE. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
COUNCIL. I NEED A MOTION ON THE ORDINANCE. MAYOR MAYOR I WILL.
I WILL BE MAKING THE MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ORDINANCE.
BUT I DO WANT TO CLARIFY AND REITERATE WHAT IS IN THE PUBLIC COMMENTS OR IN THE CAPTION COMMENTS CLOSER TO THE OKAY. IS THAT BETTER? YES. OKAY.
I DO WANT TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS BEFORE I PRESENT THE MOTION.
IN THE IN THE CAPTION THAT THE MAYOR WROTE READ IT DOES POINT OUT THAT WE ARE SETTING A TAX RATE OF FOUR. .41. I CAN'T READ IT NOW.
419, WHICH IS ACTUALLY LOWER THAN THE TAX RATE LAST YEAR.
UNFORTUNATELY, OUR THE LEGISLATURE REQUIRES THAT OUR THE MOTION THAT I'M GOING TO READ, THE LEGISLATURE INSISTS THAT WE CALL THIS A TAX RATE INCREASE. AND I JUST WANT TO BE ON RECORD AS SAYING THIS IS REALLY WE ARE WE ARE NOT INCREASING THE TAX RATE.
WE ARE IT IS ADMITTEDLY, A RATE THAT IS GOING TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE THAT THE CITY GETS COMES IN, BUT THE INCREASED REVENUE IS DUE TO INCREASES IN ASSESSED VALUATION AND INCREASES IN THE IN THE AMOUNT OF PROPERTY IN THE CITY. SO I JUST WANT TO GO ON RECORD BEFORE I READ THIS REQUIRED LANGUAGE THAT THIS IS REALLY WE ARE NOT INCREASING THE
[01:15:01]
TAX RATE. WE ARE INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE THAT WE'RE BRINGING IN.COUNCILMAN TROYER, I WANT TO GO ON RECORD WITH YOU AS WELL SAID.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. OTHER COMMENTS. OKAY.
WITH THAT? I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY TAX RATE BE INCREASED BY THE ADOPTION OF A TAX RATE OF 0.00419009, WHICH IS IN EFFECT. I'M GOING TO NEED YOU TO GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF THAT BECAUSE THE LANGUAGE IS NOT THE SAME. I'M SORRY.
I'M NOT SURE I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE READING, BUT THIS IS THE THAT'S THE CAPTION.
OKAY. SO THE MOTION IS JUST THE I MOVE PORTION, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH. SORRY I GOT I GOT LIZ OVER THERE LOOKING AT ME SIDEWAYS TOO, SO.
OKAY. OH, OKAY. I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY TAX RATE BE INCREASED BY THE ADOPTION OF A TAX RATE OF 0.419009, WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY A 2.3% INCREASE IN THE TAX RATE.
I HAVE A MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.
THANK YOU COUNCIL. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN TROYER.
[2. Public Hearing: Consideration of an Ordinance Amending the Fee Schedule of the City of Lewisville by Amending Fees Related to Community Engagement, Engineering, Finance, Fire, Library, Municipal Court, Neighborhood and Inspection Services, Parks and Recreation, and Planning and Authorizing All Fees as Presented in the Attached Fee Schedule (“Attachment B’).]
ENGAGEMENT. ENGINEERING, FINANCE, FIRE LIBRARY, MUNICIPAL COURT, NEIGHBORHOOD INSPECTION SERVICES, PARKS AND RECREATION, PLANNING, AUTHORIZING EXISTING FEES, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, AND EFFECTIVE DATE.CHANGES TO THE FEE SCHEDULE BASED ON AN ANALYSIS OF CURRENT CHARGES AS COMPARED TO COST RECOVERY GOALS AND OR COMPARISON TO SURROUNDING ENTITIES, IS CONDUCTED. RESULTING MODIFICATIONS ARE PROPOSED BY THE DEPARTMENTS.
THIS REPOSITORY IS MAINTAINED BY THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. PROPOSED UPDATES IN THIS YEAR'S FEE SCHEDULE INCLUDE CHANGES TO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, ENGINEERING, FINANCE, FIRE, LIBRARY, MUNICIPAL COURT, NEIGHBORHOOD AND INSPECTION SERVICES, PARKS AND RECREATION, AND PLANNING. AND IT'S RECOMMENDED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE ORDINANCES SET FORTH IN THE CAPTION. THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS IS NOW OPEN.
MOTION TO CLOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE.
MOVE TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE AS SET FORTH IN THE CAPTION.
THAT WAS WEIRD. I SAW YOUR NAME POP UP THERE.
I HAVE A MOTION. A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY VOTING.
AND WE HAVE SIX TO NOTHING. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL ITEM E VISITORS FORUM SPEAKERS MUST ADDRESS THEIR COMMENTS TO THE MAYOR RATHER THAN TO INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS OR STAFF. SPEAKERS SHOULD SPEAK CLEARLY AND STATE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS PRIOR TO BEGINNING THEIR REMARKS. SPEAKERS WILL BE ALLOWED FIVE MINUTES FOR TESTIMONY. SPEAKERS MAKING PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT, PROFANE, OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE MEETING. UNAUTHORIZED REMARKS FROM THE AUDIENCE. STAMPING OF FEET, WHISTLES, YELLS, CLAPPING, AND SIMILAR DEMONSTRATIONS WILL NOT BE PERMITTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, THE CITY COUNCIL IS RESTRICTED FROM DISCUSSING OR TAKING ACTION ON
[E. Visitors Forum]
ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA. ACTION CAN ONLY BE TAKEN AT A FUTURE MEETING.I DO HAVE MR. BRANT KUYKENDALL. MY APOLOGIES.
I ALWAYS GET THAT. OH, YOU DID GOOD. AND, SIR.
NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, BRANT KUYKENDALL, 1702 PEBBLE BEACH DRIVE, LEWISVILLE, TEXAS.
MAYOR GILMORE. I COME BEFORE YOU TODAY TO ANNOUNCE THE FIRST, AS FAR AS I'M AWARE, OF CITYWIDE PRAYER RALLY TO BE HELD AT WAYNE FERGUSON PLAZA ON OCTOBER THE 4TH. THIS YEAR. YOU CAN SAY AMEN OR TEN FOR OCTOBER 4TH.
BY THE WAY, THE TIME IS ALSO FROM 10 A.M. TO 4 P.M., SO WE COULD SAY FROM 10 TO 4 ON TEN FOR TEN FOR KIND OF CORNY, I KNOW, BUT ANYWAY, PETEY GOT IT.
FOR TEN, FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS RALLY IS TO GATHER THE BODY OF CHRIST, THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH, TOGETHER, TO THANK GOD FOR THE 100 YEARS OF BLESSING THAT HE'S BESTOWED UPON OUR CITY.
[01:20:02]
BY THE WAY, I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF CALLING THIS PLACE MY HOME FOR 55 OF THOSE 100 YEARS.THE HISTORY BOOKS HOLD THAT CIRCA 1846, THE FIRST PUBLIC BUILDING IN THIS AREA WAS ERECTED OUT WHERE THE OLD HALL CEMETERY NOW RESTS. THAT BUILDING SERVED AS A MEETING PLACE FOR FOUR DIFFERENT CHURCHES THE BAPTIST, THE METHODIST, THE PRESBYTERIAN, AND THE CHURCH OF CHRIST.
THIS HISTORICAL PRECEDENT DEMONSTRATES THE EARLY SPIRIT OF CHRISTIAN UNITY AT THAT TIME, LIKELY A UNITY THAT WAS NECESSARY FOR SURVIVAL. ON HOLFORD PRAIRIE. HOW MUCH MORE TODAY DO WE NEED THE CHURCH TO RISE UP, TO BE A BEACON OF HOPE, OFFERING LIGHT IN THE DARKNESS AND EXTENDING GOD'S LOVE TO ALL? WE ARE CALLED TO DISCIPLE OTHERS, BRING HEALING AND RESTORATION, AND ACTIVELY RESIST THE FORCES OF EVIL, DIVERSITY, AND HATE. I BELIEVE THAT THIS UNIFIED PRAYER GATHERING WILL EMPOWER US TO MORE EFFECTIVELY FULFILL THIS DIVINE COMMISSION AND EXPERIENCE A POWERFUL MOVE OF GOD IN OUR CITY.
MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO EXTEND AN INVITATION TO YOU, CITY COUNCIL AND OTHER CITY LEADERS TO JOIN US.
THAT IS THE 12 CHURCHES THAT ARE COMING TOGETHER ON OCTOBER 4TH OVER HERE AT WAYNE FERGUSON PLAZA FOR THIS DAY OF PRAYER, EITHER TO ADDRESS THE GATHERING OR TO SIMPLY COME AND STAND WITH US.
ALSO, IN LIGHT OF THE CURRENT POLITICAL TURMOIL IN OUR COUNTRY.
I WANT TO PETITION THE CITY TO PROVIDE SOME EXTRA POLICE PATROLS IN THE PARK ON THAT DAY.
IN CLOSING, I WANT TO READ A BIBLE VERSE FROM THE PROPHET JEREMIAH.
FOR IN ITS WELFARE YOU WILL FIND YOUR WELFARE.
FOR MORE INFORMATION, YOU CAN VISIT OUR WEBSITE.
PRAY PRAYER RALLY LEWISVILLE. COM. THANK YOU.
THEY WERE ACTUALLY REGARDING OUR WORKSHOP EARLIER TODAY.
THESE ARE ALL ECOMMENTS THAT COUNCIL SHOULD HAVE IN YOUR PACKETS OR IN YOUR INBOX.
SO I'M GOING TO BE BRIEF ON THESE. THOMAS ROCHE IS IN OPPOSITION.
WOULD LIKE TO HAVE FULL TEN MINUTES, WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ACCESS TO AV SYSTEMS. GEORGIA SMILEY ALSO EXPRESSES SIMILAR SENTIMENTS.
FILL SMILEY AND IN ALIGNMENT WITH GEORGIA, WHICH IS PROBABLY A GOOD THING FOR MARITAL BLISS.
BUT THEY ARE BOTH INDEPENDENT PEOPLE AND ABSOLUTELY THINK THEIR OWN.
BUT IN THIS ONE, THEY BOTH ARE IN AGREEMENT. AND THEN I'VE GOT RICK VIDAL, WHO'S ALSO IN OPPOSITION AND WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THE TIME LIMIT TEN MINUTES FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS. ALL RIGHT. ITEM F CONSENT AGENDA. ALL THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED TO
[F. Consent Agenda]
BE SELF-EXPLANATORY BY THE COUNCIL AND BE ENACTED WITH ONE MOTION. THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS UNLESS A COUNCIL MEMBER, A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC REQUEST FROM MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO REQUEST REMOVAL OF AN ITEM, SPEAKER, CARD, OR COMMENT MUST BE FILLED OUT AND SUBMITTED TO THE CITY SECRETARY. I DO NOT HAVE ANY CONSENT AGENDA COMMENTS. SO WITH THAT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND COUNCIL IF YOU PLEASE, VOTE. MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[G. Regular Hearing]
LOCATED AT 1.94 ACRES AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 35 AND FM 407.LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS BLAKE C BOWEN. ADDITIONS.
BLOCK A, LOT TWO B ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, AS REQUESTED BY DANIEL STEWART OF DEVELOPMENT ENGINEERING CONSULTANTS, LLC ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER. LEWISVILLE 435 PS 2507 TEN ALT STD IS THE CASE NUMBER.
[01:25:08]
B, .2. A OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHICH REQUIRES THE LONGER SIDE OF THE BUILDING TO BE PARALLEL TO FM 407.THE MODIFIED ORIENTATION WILL FACILITATE THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW CHIPOTLE WITH A DRIVE THROUGH AND THE PRESERVATION OF SPACE FOR ONE ADDITIONAL LOT FOR DEVELOPMENT AT THE CORNER OF FM 407 AND I 35. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED UNANIMOUS APPROVAL SIX TO NOTHING ON SEPTEMBER 2ND, 2025. IT'S RECOMMENDED THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVE THE ALTERNATE STANDARD AS SET FORTH IN THE CAPTION ABOVE.
RICHARD LUEDKE, OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR, IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. COUNCIL I HAD A I HAD A QUESTION.
SO IS THE UNDEVELOPED LOT THAT'S THIS IS TWO LOTS OR ONE LOT THAT'S BEING SUBDIVIDED INTO TWO.
CORRECT, CORRECT. SO IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING ON THIS LOT THAT'S CAUSING AN ISSUE WITH THE OTHER LOT THAT WOULD PREVENT IT FROM BEING PROPERLY DEVELOPED IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR CODES? APPROVING THE ALTERNATIVE STANDARD WOULD INCREASE THE CHANCES AND FACILITATE MORE OPTIONS TO DEVELOP THE THE HARD CORNER BY ALLOWING THE ORIENTATION THAT'S REQUESTED.
OKAY, SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT BY ORIENTING IT THIS WAY, INSTEAD OF HAVING IT FLIPPED 90 DEGREES IS MAKING IT'S ALLOWING THIS LOT TO BE MORE NARROW. CORRECT. OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THAT BECAUSE THAT'S A POINT I HADN'T CONSIDERED.
SO IN ESSENCE, WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS IF WE APPROVE THIS ONE TO BE THE SMALLER SIDE FACING THE STREET, 35, WE'RE BASICALLY SAYING THE OTHER LOT IS GOING TO HAVE THE SAME REQUEST, I ASSUME.
OTHERWISE IT CAN'T BE DEVELOPED PROPERLY. IT'LL JUST HAVE MORE OPTIONS.
WE FOUND THAT THOSE, THOSE SITES TEND TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER INTENSITY.
IT COULD BE A RESTAURANT, COULD BE A HOTEL. BUT IF THIS LOT WERE, REQUIRED TO HAVE THE LONGER SIDE, IT WOULD BE WIDER AND IT WOULD IT WOULD BE TAKING SPACE AWAY FROM THAT CORNER LOT.
OKAY. IT WOULD BE LIMITING ITS ITS OPTIONS FOR ITS ULTIMATE DEVELOPMENT.
THANK YOU. COUNCIL. IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE ALTERNATIVE STANDARD AS SET FORTH IN THE CAPTION. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND COUNCIL, IF YOU PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
ITEM EIGHT CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LEWISVILLE, TEXAS. AMENDING THE PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED AND APPROVED BUDGET ORDINANCE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR OCTOBER 1ST, 2024 TO SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2025, BY PROVIDING SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS TO VARIOUS FUNDS AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
ITEMS PRESENTED IN THE MIDYEAR REPORT IN MAY.
OTHER INDIVIDUAL ITEMS AS REQUESTED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, AND APPROPRIATIONS THAT CORRECT YEAR END BALANCES. IT'S RECOMMENDED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE ORDINANCE AS SET FORTH IN THE CAPTION ABOVE. COUNCIL.
MOVED TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCES SET FORTH IN THE CAPTION.
SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND COUNCIL, IF YOU PLEASE, VOTE.
MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. REPORTS. I'VE GOT CITY COUNCIL.
[H. Reports]
I DO NOT HAVE ANY STAFF REPORTS THIS EVENING, SO I'LL START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MERIDITH TO MY RIGHT.YES, MAYOR. I'VE GOT SOME LIBRARY ACTIVITIES FOR THE WEEK.
CHIL COLORING WEEK FOR ALL AGES. TUESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 16TH THROUGH THE 18TH, 11 A.M. TO 7:30 P.M.. FRIDAY AND SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 19TH AND 20TH, 11 TO 430 AT THE HIVE MAKERSPACE.
NO REGISTRATION IS REQUIRED. TWEEN SCENE FOR CHILDREN AGED 9 TO 12.
WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 17TH 430 TO 530 AT THE BENNETT PROGRAM ROOM.
FREE TICKET REQUIRED. FOLDED FABRIC PINE CONES FOR ADULTS.
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 18TH, 6 TO 7:30 P.M.. SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 20TH, 2 TO 3:30 P.M.
AT THE CRAWFORD MEETING ROOM AND REGISTRATION IS REQUIRED.
AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCIL MEMBER.
TROYER. YES. YES, MAYOR. I HAVE A NUMBER OF ITEMS FOR THE LEWISVILLE GRAND THEATER.
[01:30:09]
BE ON SEPTEMBER 19TH THROUGH THE 21ST, WITH TWO PERFORMANCES ON SEPTEMBER 20TH.WE WERE PRIVILEGED TO SEE A PREVIEW OF THIS PERFORMANCE, AND IT'S WELL WORTH.
SECONDLY, OPERA PRESENTED BY LEWISVILLE LAKE SYMPHONY.
SEPTEMBER 19TH. AND THEN WE CALL IT TANGO. A SENSATIONAL ARGENTINE DANCE SHOW PRESENTED BY.
WE CALL IT TANGO. OCTOBER 3RD. AND FINALLY, ON EVERY FRIDAY NIGHT, THE ACOUSTIC JAM SESSION PRESENTED BY THE VISUAL ART LEAGUE OF LEWISVILLE.
AND THEN THERE ARE TWO ACTIVITIES GOING ON THERE.
SO I GUESS IF YOU WANT TO BE, IF YOU WANT TO BE PART OF A FLASH MOB.
THAT'S GOING TO BE REHEARSAL. IS THIS THE 20TH AND THE CRAFTING CO-OP PRESENTED BY THE CITY OF LEWISVILLE SEPTEMBER 20TH, OCTOBER 18TH AND NOVEMBER 15TH. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
SO IT SHOULD BE IT SHOULD BE A LOT OF FUN. WE WENT I WENT TO ONE OF THOSE A FEW YEARS AGO FOR 2025.
AND WHEN I HEAR PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THIS IN OUR CULTURE, THERE'S NOTHING TO DO. YOU JUST GOT TO GET OUT AND LOOK OR JUST JUST ATTEND, YOU KNOW, ATTEND ONE MEETING, YOU CAN HEAR COUNCILMAN TROYER COUNCILMAN MERIDITH MYSELF.
COUNCILWOMAN CADE. ANYBODY UP HERE TALKED ABOUT ALL THE GREAT THINGS TO DO IN THE CITY.
COUNCIL MEMBER GREEN. WELL, I THINK MY MY THUNDER HAS BEEN STOLEN.
BUT I DO THINK THAT PATRICK'S INTERESTED IN THAT FLASH MOB.
THAT THAT SEEMS. THAT SEEMS LIKE A DIRECTION HE'D GO.
SO I INVITE YOU ALL TO COME OUT ON THAT SUNDAY.
I HAVE TO SAY, IF YOU'VE NEVER SEEN THEIR DRUM LINES IT'S AMAZING.
TWO MORE WEEKENDS? YEP, TWO MORE WEEKENDS. WE'RE READY FOR WEEKENDS.
COUNCIL MEMBER TIPTON. DO YOU KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO BE INDOORS OR OUTDOORS AT THIS TIME? OH, THAT IS GLORIOUS BECAUSE BECAUSE THAT IS SO MANY TUBAS IN ONE SPACE.
IT'S AMAZING. THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF MY FAVORITE EVENTS IN THE TOP.
IN THE TOP FOUR OF THINGS IN LEWISVILLE IS HBCU SUNDAY AT WESTSIDE.
I SEE A LOT OF FOLKS GEARING UP FOR WESTERN DAYS.
I SEE A LOT OF NEW BUSINESSES THAT ARE STARTING TO OPEN UP DOWN HERE IN OLD TOWN, HOPING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WESTERN DAYS. SO I THINK THAT'S THAT'S REALLY EXCITING TO TO SEE THAT GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT. AND I AGREE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AMAZING THINGS TO DO ALL OVER THE CITY, WHETHER THAT'S THE FAR, FAR EAST SIDE OVER IN THE CASTLE HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD OR WE GO ALL THE WAY TO THE FAR WEST SIDE.
YOU KNOW, TO TO ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, OUR GREAT PARKS.
AND WE WILL HELP YOU BE BY BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR TO HELP YOU GET PLUGGED IN.
WITH THAT, WE DO HAVE SOME CLOSED SESSION WORK TO DO TONIGHT.
[J. Closed Session]
SO IN ACCORDANCE WITH TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, SUBCHAPTER D, SECTION 551 .072, REAL ESTATE PROPERTY ACQUISITION, SECTION 551 .074 PERSONNEL CITY SECRETARY JENNIFER MALONE IPPOLITO AND SECTION 551 .087 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DELIBERATION REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND NEGOTIATIONS. WE WILL BE MOVING INTO CLOSED SESSION.[01:35:06]
ALL RIGHT. BACK IN A REGULAR SESSION AS THERE IS NO FURTHER ACTION TO BE TAKEN ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA,[K. Reconvene]
WE STAND ADJOURNED. LET'S GO.* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.