[A. Call to Order and Announce that a Quorum is Present. ]
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IT IS 6:30 AND I CALL TO ORDER THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 16TH,
[B. Approval of Minutes ]
2025. THERE IS A QUORUM PRESENT . AT THIS POINT, THE NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.>> MOVED TO APPROVE. >> MOVED TO APPROVED BY JACK AND SECONDED BY RICK. WE CAN VOTE NOW.
>> MADAM CHAIR? >> YES. WE NEED TO GET FRANK.
>> OKAY. >> MOTION CARRIES, 7-0. AND WE WILL GET HER UP AND GOING!
[C. Public Hearing ]
THANK YOU . THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IT IS A CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR COMMUNICATION ANTENNA OVER 25 FEET IN HEIGHT AND COMMUNICATION SUPPORT STRUCTURE ON 0.0826- ACRE PORTION OF NEC, 1171 AND VALLEY PARKWAY ADDITION, LOT LOT 3R2-B , BLOCK B , PHASE ONE, LOCATED AT 1093 WEST MAIN STREET, ZONED GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT , AS REQUESTED BY RALPH WYNGARDEN , FAULK AND FOSTER ON BEHALF OF HEMPHILL LLC, THE OPERATOR , AND TSCA-224 LTD P/S , THE PROPERTY OWNER. CASE NUMBER 25-06-10-SU P.>> THAT IS ON THE VACANT NORTH PORTION OF A RETAIL STRIP CENTER. INCLUDED WITH THE APPLICATION, A MAP SHOWS THE EXISTING CONNECTIVITY AND THE PROPOSED IMPROVED COVERAGE , 125-FOOT MONOPOLE TOWER. THERE WILL BE A 10-FOOT-TALL LIGHTNING ROD ON TOP OF IT, MAKING THE ENTIRE TOWER A TOTAL OF 135 FEET. THE APPLICANT INFORMED ME AHEAD OF THE MEETING THAT THE LOCATION OF THE TOWER, WHICH I WILL PULL UP HERE. LET'S SEE.
SO, THE COMPOUND THAT THE TOWER SITS ON AND BE OUR -- TOWER ITSELF MAY POTENTIALLY SHIP 35 FEET TO ACCOMMODATE SOME COMMUNICATION LINES THAT WERE DISCOVERED RECENTLY. THE FINALIZED VERSION OF THE PLAN WITH THE LOCATION WILL BE COMPLETED AHEAD OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
TELECOMMUNICATION IS AN IMPORTANT SERVICE THAT BUSINESS OWNERS RELY ON . STAFF DOES NOT SEE NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF THE TOWER ON THE SURROUNDING AREA. STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT AS PRESENTED IN THE SITE PLAN , OR AS POTENTIALLY CHANGED IN THE FINAL VERSION SET TO COUNCIL. THE
APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE. >> COMMISSIONERS, QUESTIONS?
>> IN MY READING OF THE MATERIALS, THE FOOTPRINT, BEING AS SMALL AS IT IS ON THE ENTIRE PARCEL, IS THERE ANY CHANCE THIS WILL COME BACK FOR A REPLY FOR A USAGE OUTSIDE OF THAT FOOTPRINT?
>> I DON'T BELIEVE , SO, IT IS LOCATED ON THE SAME PROPERTY SO IT IS NOT GOING TO BE A SEPARATE, OWNED PORTION. IT IS
ONE LOT. >> FOR USE ON THE SAME LOT, THEY COULD CHOOSE TO REPLAT IT, IF THEY CHOSE.
>> THERE WAS NO CONFLICT WITH OUR SAFETY SERVICES PROGRAM,
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BEING SO CLOSE BY? >> NO MA'AM .
>> I DID NOT FIGURE THERE WAS. >> IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK CAN COME FORWARD AND SPEAK AT THIS TIME. GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND WE
WILL BE HAPPY TO HEAR FROM YOU. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. MY NAME IS RALPH WEINGARTEN, -- RALPH WYNGARDEN FROM FAULK AND FOSTER , GRAND RAPIDS, MICHIGAN, ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, HEMPHILL LLC. WITH ME IN THE AUDIENCE, REPRESENTATIVES, MR. QUINN AND ANOTHER REPRESENTATIVE, PRESTON DAY AND THIS LOCATION IS GOING TO SUPPORT VERIZON WIRELESS BUT ALSO DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE FUTURE PROVIDERS . VERIZON WIRELESS IS ENGINEERING THE NECESSITY CASE, INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET, ENSURING THAT WIRELESS SERVICE KEEPS UP WITH ADVANCES IN TECHNOLOGY, IT IS CRITICAL TO THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.
APPROVED -- IMPROVED WIRELESS SERVICE WILL BENEFIT BUSINESSES AND SUPPORT THOSE WHO LEARN OR WORK AT HOME AND SUPPORT PEOPLE WHO ARE SHOPPING, DINING, OR GOING ABOUT THEIR TASKS IN THIS BUSY COMMERCIAL AREA. FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY STANDPOINT, IT ALLOWS EMERGENCY MESSAGES, AMBER ALERTS, STORMS, MOST 911 CALLS COME FROM WIRELESS DEVICES NOWADAYS SO THERE IS THE PUBLIC SAFETY PART OF IT , TOO. AS WAS MENTIONED, WE RECENTLY DISCOVERED THERE ARE SOME COMMUNICATION LINES FROM WHERE THE POST COMPOUND AREA IS. WE HAVE NOT IDENTIFIED WHO THOSE BELONG TO WHAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE MADE IT CLEAR THAT THEY STAY WHERE IT IS , AND WE WOULD BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY WHOSE LINES THEY ARE, AND REMOVE THEM OR RELOCATE THEM , FOR LINES IN THAT AREA. THAT IS THE FIRST PREFERRED CHOICE. IF WE CANNOT RESOLVE IT , THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY IT COULD SHIFT IF THE LANDOWNERS AGREE, AND I GUESS THE DESIGN WOULD NOT CHANGE, THE DIMENSIONS WOULD NOT CHANGE, EVERYTHING WOULD STAY THE SAME. IT WOULD BE 35 FEET FURTHER WEST ON THE SAME PARCEL.
WITH NO CHANGE IN IMPACT. OUR REQUEST TONIGHT WOULD BE THAT YOU RECOMMEND APPROVAL EVEN IN THE CURRENT LOCATION , OR IF IT HAS TO SHIFT 35 FEET WEST , BEFORE WE GO IN FRONT OF COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION, WE WILL RESOLVE THE ACTIONS AND TURN IN THE FINAL PLAN. AND ALSO I WANTED TO NOTE , THE POLE DOES NOT REQUIRE LIGHTING , THERE WILL BE NO FLASHING LIGHTS AT NIGHT OR ANYTHING. I WILL LEAVE IT THERE AND I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS. THANKS.
>> QUESTIONS ? >> I HAVE A QUESTION AND THIS IS FOR RICHARD OR FOR MICHELLE. THAT IS RIGHT NEXT TO WHERE I WORK, DO I NEED TO REMOVE MYSELF FROM VOTING? THAT LOCATION IS DIRECTLY NEXT TO THE CREDIT UNION.
>> IF IT IS WITHIN A DISTANCE OF 200 FEET.
>> I MEAN, IT IS TWO OR THREE CARS AWAY. THE NEXT BUILDING IN
THAT GRASSY AREA. >> OH. OKAY.
>> IF YOU ARE WITHIN 200 FEET, AS A GENERAL RULE OF THUMB, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE BEST TO RECUSE YOURSELF.
>> OKAY, THEN I WILL RECUSE MYSELF.
>> IF ANYONE ELSE WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK, WE WOULD BE
HAPPY TO HEAR FROM YOU. >> JUST A QUESTION FOR THE CITY, NO PUBLIC COMMENTS RECEIVED ON THIS ?
>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> OKAY, THANK YOU.
>> SEEING NO ONE ELSE COME FORWARD, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, COMMISSIONER? I WILL ACCEPT A MOTION.
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>> RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT AS PRESENTED.
>> SECOND. >> MOTION MADE, SECONDED BY AINSLEY STELLING. YOU MAY VOTE NOW . MOTION CARRIES 6-0, WITH FRANCISCA AL-WAELY RECUSING HERSELF.
>> COMMISSIONERS, THIS ITEM WILL BE CONSIDERED BY THE CITY COUNCIL WHO WILL MAKE ANY FINAL DECISION ON MONDAY, OCTOBER
[D. Regular Hearing ]
20TH, 2025, AT 7:00 P.M. . THANK YOU.>> THANK YOU, RICHARD. NEXT ITEM IS A REGULAR HEARING.
CONSIDERATION OF AN ALTERNATE STANDARD ASSOCIATED WITH EXTERIOR LIGHTING FOR FEATHER SMASH OUTDOOR COURTS ON APPROXIMATELY 1.1-ACRE TRACT OF THE H.H. SMITH SURVEY, ABSTRACT NUMBER 1576, LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF EAST VISTA RIDGE MALL DRIVE , APPROXIMATELY 200 FEET WEST OF HIGHVIEW LANE.
ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT , AS REQUESTED , BY SAURABH SHAH , PE , OF AARI ENGINEERING LLC, ON BEHALF OF FEATHER SMASH LLC , THE PROPERTY OWNER. 25-08-12- ALTSTD .
>> EARLIER THIS YEAR, INTEGRITY, THEY REQUESTED A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR PICKLEBALL FIELDS BACK IN FEBRUARY, THEY ARE NOW TRYING TO REQUEST EXTERIOR LIGHTING, PER UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, WE ONLY ALLOW A MAXIMUM OF 20 FOOTCANDLES FOR COMMERCIAL USES , THEY ALLOW THIS TO GO UP A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY PARTICULAR LANGUAGE FOR OUTDOOR COURTS. WE ARE REQUESTING TO ALLOW UP TO 53 FOOT CANDLES, THE AMOUNT RECOMMENDED BY THE PICKLEBALL ASSOCIATION. WHEN THEY MADE THIS REQUEST , WE ASKED THE PARKS AND REC, WHAT THE LIMITS ARE, THE TENNIS COURTS WERE THE HIGHEST, 49 FOOTCANDLES. I WILL SAY THE BETTER METRIC SHEETS THEY PROVIDED WITH THESE ALTERNATIVE STANDARD REQUESTS DID NOT GO ABOVE 47 FOOTCANDLES. BUT THEY WANTED THE OPTION, WHATEVER THE PICKLEBALL ASSOCIATION RECOMMENDED, ABOUT 43. THEY ARE REQUESTING 53 FOOTCANDLES, IN LIEU OF THE 20 FOOTCANDLES. WE ARE LIKELY GOING TO REVISE THE DEVELOPMENT CODE IN THE FUTURE TO HAVE SPECIFIC PROVISIONS FOR OUTDOOR COURTS. I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE REGARDING THE ALTERNATIVE STANDARD.
>> IN TERMS OF THE CANDLE POWER , IS THERE ANYTHING IN OUR REQUIREMENTS FOR LIGHT REFLECTIVITY?
>> WE DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING REGARDING REFLECTIVITY. WE HAVEN'T REGARDING CANDLES ON THE PROPERTY LINE, SPECIFICALLY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH THIS IS NOT ADJACENT TO ANY SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE DO NOT HAVE
LANGUAGE REGARDING REFLECTIVITY. >> WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE NEIGHBORS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE LIGHTS SHINING INTO THEIR
BACKYARD? >> THE CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD IS TO THE EAST , IN THE BUILDING OF THE EXISTING PICKLEBALL FACILITY WHICH IS A TALL BUILDING, BETWEEN THESE COURTS AND THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.
>> THE LIGHTING WILL NOT REFLECT?
>> CORRECT. >> BECAUSE THE FACILITY IS NOT
GOING TO KNOW. >> PEOPLE WHO ARE DRIVING ON EAST VISTA RIDGE MALL DRIVE, IS THAT GOING TO BE A VISUAL, A
VISUAL DETERRENT , OR ? >> IF YOU LOOK AT THE METRICS , I KNOW THERE ARE A BUNCH OF NUMBERS ON IT, THE HIGHEST IT IS AT THE PROPERTY LINE, 0.9. BY THE TIME HE GETS TO PAVEMENT, IT
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>> THEY ARE ALL CONCENTRATED ON THE FIELDS THEMSELVES.
>> WERE THERE ANY PARAMETERS ? DISCUSSED, IN TERMS OF HOW LONG, HOW LATE AT NIGHT, THEY WOULD BE OUT?
>> I BELIEVE SO BUT I CANNOT REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
I WOULD HAVE TO VERIFY THAT. I HAVE IT PULLED UP.
>> THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF. THE DARK SKY INITIATIVES ?
>> IT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE LOOKED THAT OVER TIME. BUT THE REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO MEET. IT WOULD BE MEETING THE CRITERIA THAT WE CAN . FOR SUSTAINABILITY PURPOSES. BUT I BELIEVE, AS FAR AS MEETING ALL THE REQUIREMENTS TO BE CERTIFIED, IT WOULD BE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT.
>> THAT STRETCH , IT IS IN AN INTERESTING WAY, I WONDERED IF THAT WAS THE CAUSE OF THE LIGHTING CHOICES IN THAT
STRETCH? >> WE DO REQUIRE THAT THE
AIRPORT -- I'M SORRY. >> LIGHTING ALONG THAT SECTION MIGHT BE AFFECTED MORE ALONG THE AIRPORT .
>> SOME OF THEM ARE KIND OF DARK SKY -INSPIRED STANDARDS , THAT THE LIGHTING BE SHIELDED AND CUT OFF SO THAT YOU DO NOT SEE THE ACTUAL SOURCE OF THE BULB OR THE LIGHT AND THAT IS VERY DIRECTED.
THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY GOING ALL DIRECTIONS, THIS CASE WOULD
BE ON TO THE PICKLEBALL COURT. >> I DID NOT SEE ANY MENTION OF THE HOURS OF OPERATION DISCUSSED. HERE WE GO , 5:00
A.M. TO 11:00 A.M. >> COMMISSIONERS , ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS? >> THE GENERAL HOURS OF
OPERATION. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? IF NOT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
>> I MOVED TO APPROVE THE ALTERNATIVE STANDARD AS
>> MOTION BY RICK, SECONDED BY JOSH. YOU MAY VOTE AGAIN. MOTION
CARRIES 7-0. >> COMMISSIONERS, THIS ITEM WILL BE CONSIDERED BY CITY COUNCIL WHO WILL MAKE A FINAL DECISION ON MONDAY, OCTOBER 6TH, 2025 AT 7:00 P.M. THANK YOU.
>> ANNOUNCEMENTS? >> THIS THURSDAY AT THE LOUISVILLE GRAND THEATER, NORTH CHARLES STREET , WE WILL HAVE OUR FIRST WORKSHOP FOR THE LEWISVILLE PLAN, IT IS A COME AND GO EVENT, WE WILL HAVE THREE SPEAKERS AT THE BOTTOM OF EACH HOUR THEN PARIS RUTHERFORD , THE ECONOMICS GURU WHO WILL TALK ABOUT ECONOMICS AND PLACEMAKING. AND THEN ANGELA FELT , WHO IS FI CIP , A PLANNER, WITH A LOT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND SHE WILL TALK ABOUT WHAT IT TAKES TO BUILD A COMMUNITY. WE WILL HAVE HOTDOG DINNERS WITH CHIPS AND FRUIT AND OLD TOWN BROAD'S WILL GET US KICKED OFF WITH LIVE MUSIC . THAT COULD BE REALLY FUN, WE ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO ATTEND.
>> THANK YOU. >>> THE NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS IS
ADJOURNMENT. I NEED A MOTION. >> MOVE TO ADJOURN.
>> MOVED BY JACK. SECONDED. WE CAN VOTE NOW.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.