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[1. 26-4715 Public Input and Discussion on King Arthur Boulevard Traffic Calming Improvements]
THEY PICK UP THE WHOLE ROOM EVEN ON YOUTUBE AND FIRST UP ON OUR AGENDA IS ITEM A-1 DISCUSSION ON THE KING ARTHUR BOULEVARD TRAFFICKING CALMING IMPROVEMENT. WE'RE CONTINUING TO SEE PUBLIC INPUT A COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND IT'S RECOMMENDED BY STAFF THE CITY COUNCIL SET FORTH THIS DISCUSSION AND WE HAVE CITY MANAGER CLAIRE POWELL AND WE WILL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.>> MAYOR, COUNCIL, BEFORE AARON GETS INTO THE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS, I WANTED TO SPEND A FEW MINUTES GROUNDING UP ON HOW WE GOT HERE AND THE PRINCIPLES THAT GUIDE STAFF WORK. THE PURPOSE OF THE KING ARTHUR PROJECT IS SAFETY DESIGNED TO SLOW TRAFFIC BETTER DESIGN THE TRAFFIC LANES TAN CREATE A SAFER ENVIRONMENT.
AT LAST MEETING COUNCIL REAFFIRMED THAT OBJECTIVE CLEARLY. YOU ASKED US TO I AM APPROVE AND RESPOND TO CONCERNS FROM COMMUNITY.
NORMALLY WE WOULD INSTALL THE IMPROVEMENTS ALLOW THEM TO RUN SIX MONTHS AND MAKE REP FINE MEANT'SED ON WHAT WE LEARNED.
YOU DIRECTED STAFF TO IDENTIFY REASONABLE CHANGES WE COULD MAKE NOW BASED ON THE FEED BACK WE HAD RECEIVED PROVIDED THOSE CHANGES DID NOT UNDERMINE THE ORIGINAL PURPOSE.
PROJECT AND THAT DIRECTION LED TO OPTION 3.
OPTION THREE INCLUDING REMOVING THE BICYCLE BARRIERS REPLACING THEM WITH A RUMBLE TREATMENT, ADDING ADDITIONAL STRIPING IN ADDITION TO THE BUMP-OUTS, ADDING LANDSCAPING TO IMPROVE
[2. 26-4760 Approval of Change Order #2 for King Arthur Boulevard Traffic Calming Project in the Amount of $85,888 and Authorization for the City Manager, or Her Designee, to Execute the Change Order.]
MOVEMENT AT LADY OF THE LAKE. FOLLOWING THAT MEETING MAYOR GILMORE YOU INVITED THE COMMUNITY TO CONTINUE SHARING IDEA AND CONCERNS AND THEY DID AND STAFF LISTENED.WHAT WILL YOU'RE SEEING TONIGHT REFLECTS THE ADDITIONAL WORK.
WE WENT THROUGH THE FEED BACK AND ASKED THE QUESTION ARE THERE ADDITIONAL CHANGES WE CAN MAKE THAT ADDRESS CONCERNS WHILE PRESERVING THE SAFETY AND TRAFFICKING CALMING OBJECTIVES.
IN SEVERAL INSTANCES THE ANSWER WAS YES AND IN OTHERS WE COULD NOT RECOMMEND THE REQUESTED CHANGE AND I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE EXPLAIN BOTH AND AARON IS GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT WITH ALL YOU. TRAFFIC CALMING PROJECTS ARE BY NAILER IT AIVE. WE CAN DESIGN THEM CAREFULLY MODEL THEM APPLY ACCEPTED ENGINEERING STANDARDS BUT THERE'S ALSO A HUMAN ELEMENT THAT CANNOT BE FULLY UNDERSTOOD UNTIL PEOPLE BEGIN DRIVEING THE ROADWAY WALKING IT AND RESPONDING TO IT IN REAL WORLD CONDITIONS.
THAT IS WHY ALL STREET CALMING PROJECTS EVALUATED OVER TIME.
WE OBSERVE THEM AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS.
WHAT IS UNUSUAL ABOUT KRAURSDZ IS THAT COUNCIL HAS ASKED US TO BEGIN THAT REFINEMENT PROCESS ALMOST IMMEDIATELY BEFORE EVALUATION, BUT I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE DOING THAT. I BELIEVE THAT DISTINCTION IS IMPORTANT THOUGH. WHEN THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN REASONABLY APPROVE UPON, NOW, WE SHOULD IMPROVE IT BUT WE ALSO HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY NOT TO MAKE SO MANY CHANGES SO QUICKLY THAT WE UNINTENTIONALLY UNDO THE IMPROVEMENT T'S PROJECT WAS TO ACHIEVE BEFORE WE HAVE HAD OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE MODIFIED DEAD SIGN PERFORMS SO TONIGHT IS IMPORTANT BUT I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR IT'S NOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO EVALUATE KING ARTHUR BOULEVARD. THAT'S WHAT IS THE THESE PROJECTS USUALLY DO AND YOU'VE SEEN IT ELSE WHERE IN THE COMMUNITY. I RECOMMEND WE MAKE THE CHANGES THAT STAFF WILL SET FORTH THAT WE THINK ARE APPROPRIATE NEWS, ALLOW IT TO OPERATE OBSERVE CAREFULLY AND RETURN WITH THE BENEFIT OF EVIDENCE. THAT'S NOT UNUSUAL.
WE HAVE TAKEN THAT SAME APPROACH WITH OTHER PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. OUR OBLIGATION IS FIND A POINT WEATHER WE HAVE RESPONDED TO THE COMMUNITY EXERCISED SOUNDS
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JUDGMENT AND PRESERVED THE COMMON GOALS COUNCIL DIRECTED US TO DO. WITH THAT FRAMEWORK, I'M GOES TO PASS IT ON THE TO ERIC TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATION T'S STAFF IS PRESENTING TONIGHT AND THEREASONING BEHIND EACH OF THEM. >> GOOD EVENING MADEIRA AND COUNCIL. FOR THE PUBLIC MY NAME IS AARON RUSSELL ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. JUST AS CLAIRE SAID WE HAVE BEEN COMEING THE CONVERSATION WITH THE PUBLIC REGARDING THIS ISSUE, BUT DO I WANT TO RESTRESS WE HAVE ALWAYS BALANCED THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE ORIGINAL FEED BACK THAT WE RECEIVE FROM THE PUBLIC, WHICH WAS THERE'S A SPEEDING ISSUE ON KING ARTHUR.
SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE TRIED TO ADDRESS ALL THE CONCERNS BUT ALSO KEEP TRUE TO THE PROJECT GOAL WHICH WAS TRAFFIC CALMING AND MAKING THE CORRIDOR SAFER.
AS WE LOOKED THROUGH AS WE TALKED CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION IT JUST BECAME APPARENT THAT THIS REALLY BOILED DOWN TO FOUR KEY ISSUES RELATED TO THE PROJECT.
NUMBER ONE WAS BIKE LANES AND WE WILL TALK A LOT ABOUT BIKE LANES TONIGHT. AND THEN, BUMP-OUTS IS ANOTHER BIG SUBJECT. THESE ARE INTER HAD TWIEND BUT THEY REALLY BREAK DOWN AND THAT'S HOW I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION TONIGHT SO HEADS UP HOW THIS IS ORGANIZED AND STRIPING IS ANOTHER KEY ISSUE AND THERE'S THE WEST END OF THE PROJECT WHICH WE LOOKED AT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN THE REST OF THE CORRIDOR.
THAT'S MORGAN LA PAY TO OLD DENTON.
SO AS I WALK YOU THROUGH THESE SLIDES AGAIN, WE WILL GO THROUGH FOUR KEY ISSUES BUT WANTED TO GIVE HEADS UP OF THE STRUCTURE OF THE SLIDES. SO WE ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE SUGGESTIONS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC, EITHER RELATED TO THE ORIGINAL DESIGN OR WHAT WITH THE FEED BACK WE RECEIVED SINCE WE MET LAST AN AISLE GIVE YOU STAFF'S IS IS RECOMMENDATION REPRESENT TO EACH AND EXPLAIN WHY.
THE FIRST IS THE BIKE LANE BARRIERS.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS RELAYED IN THE FIRST MEETING THAT THE PUBLIC DESIRED FOR THOSE BIKE LANE BARRIERS TO BE REMOVED, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT FOR THE REMOVAL OF THE BIKE LANE BARRIERS BUT WE WANT TO CAVEAT THAT WITH WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP THE BICYCLIST SAFE, SO WE ALSO WANT TO COUPLE THAT REMOVAL WITH THE ADDITION OF TACTILE FEED BACK, WHAT THAT IS IS AS A DRIVER YOU MAY STRAY FROM THEIR LANE THEY WOULD RUN OVER SOMETHING THAT GIVES THEM TACTILE FEED BACK LIKE A RUMBLE STRIP. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN THE PREVIOUS MEETING. PART OF THE ADDITIONAL FEED BACK WE RECEIVED FROM RESIDENTS MAYBE RUMBLE STRIPS ARE NOT THE RIGHT SOLUTION WILL BECAUSE IT'S A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD THEY'RE LOUD THEY GIVE YOU THE TACTILE FEED BACK YOU NEED AS A DRIVER BUT MAKE THEY'RE NOT THE RIGHT SOLUTION IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD SO WHAT WE RECOMMEND TONIGHT TO BE ACCOMPLISH THAT IS A DMS 43 TYPE W IS, I DO WANT TO POINT OUT IN YOUR CHANGE ORDER THIS EVENING IT'S NOT IDENTIFIED AS THAT TYPE OF BUTTON. WE WILL HAVE A MOTION PREPARED FOR YOU IF YOU CHOOSE TO APPROVE THAT CHANGE ORDER TO GET THAT SPECIFICS RIGHT. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO IS THE ONE SPECIFIED IN THE CHANGE SOD A REFLECTIVE BUTTON.
FROM THE FEED BACK WE RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC THEY DIDN'T WANT IT TO LIKE LIKE A RUNWAY SO THESE BUTTONS ARE NOT REFLECTIVE. THEY'LL SIMPLY GIVE THE TACTILE FEED BACK AND NOT BE REFLECTIVE. YOU HAD CAN SEE THE PICTURE OF THE BUTTON WE ARE PROPOSING AND THE PLACEMENT OF THOSE BUTTONS.
THERE'S BEEN FEED BACK OR TALK ABOUT OUR CONCERN ABOUT THE BUTTONS BEING PLACED IN THE BIKE LANE WHICH DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS. WE ARE NOT PLANNING TO PLACE THEM IN THE BIKE LINES. AS CAN YOU SEE IT'S IN THE BUFFER SO THIS WOULD ACTUALLY ONCE WE REMOVE THE BARRIERS GIVE THE BIKERS A LITTLE OVER TWO AND A HALF FEET OF ADDITIONAL MANEUVER MANEUVERABILITY IN THAT BIKE LANE TO AVOID ANY ISSUES THAT THEY MAY ENCOUNTER. SO THOSE TWO EYE TMS ARE INCLUDED IN THE CHANGE ORDER THAT'S ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT.
THE NEXT SUGGESTION WAS REMOVED THE TWO-WAY BIKING STRIPING SO THIS IS RELATED TO THE WIDTH ITSELF BIKE LINE IT STEMS FROM A CONCERN THE BIKE LANE IS NOT WIDE ENOUGH FOR TWO-WAY TRAFFIC SO THE SUGGESTION WAS LET'S REMOVE THE CENTER LANE REMOVE ALL THE SIGNAGE RELATED TO CALLING THAT BIKE LANE TWO-WAY.
WE CONSULTED WITH OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERS, WHO DESIGNED THE PROJECT AND BASED ON THEIR RECOMMENDATION AND WE AGREE THAT THAT ACTUALLY MAKES THAT BIKE LANE LESS SAFE BECAUSE WE HAVE
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TO ACKNOWLEDGE WHETHER WE SIGN IT AS TWO-WAY OR NOT BICYCLES ARE GOING TO RIDE BOTH DIRECTIONS BECAUSE IT'S TO BE BIKE LINE FOR MOST OF THE CORRIDOR SO THEY'RE GOING TO GO BOTH DIRECTIONS SO IF WE REMOVE THE CENTER LINE IT MAKES IT LESS SAVED AND DOESN'T SOLVE THE ISSUE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP.SO THE NEXT KEY ISSUE IS BUMP-OUTS.
I WANT TO POINT OUT THE IMAGE THAT YOU SEE ON THE SLIDE IS AI GENERATED. I TRIED TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA WHAT A BUMP-OUT WOULD LOOK OUT BECAUSE I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT MOUNTABLE CURBS AND BECAUSE THAT SOLVES A LOT OF THE ISSUES OR WE BELIEVE THAT SOLVES ISSUES THAT WERE RAISED SO INITIAL SUGGESTION WAS REMOVE ALL BUMP-OUTS AND ACCOMPLISH THE TRAFFIC CALMING WITH STRIPING ONLY.
WE FEEL LIKE THIS DIMINISHES THE TRAFFIC CALMING EFFECT BECAUSE IT IS RESULTS FROM THE DRIVER FEELING LESS SAFE OR LESS COMFORTABLE WHEN THEY DRIVE FAST.
SO THAT IS YOU HAVE TO ADD FRICTION TO THE CORRIDOR, THE DRIVER FEELS LIKE THEY SHOULD DRIVE SLOWER.
THAT'S WHAT REALLY LOWERS SPEEDS AND THAT'S THE EFFECT THAT'S WHAT TRAFFIC CALMING IS ABOUT SO WE FEEL LIKE WE REMOVE THE BUMP-OUTS WE LOSE A LOT OF THAT EFFECT.
WE ALSO WOULD LOSE CROSSWALK PROTECTION SO THE PLACEMENT OF SEVERAL OF THESE BUMP-OUTS ARE VERY CLOSE TO A CROSSWALK.
WHAT THAT, THE EFFECT OF THAT DOES IS IT SHRINKS THE WIDTH OF THE STREET AT THAT KROBS WALK LOCATION, SO THAT THEY DON'T, THEY HAVE LESS DISTANCE TO TRAVEL WHEN THEY CROSS AND SO IF WE REMOVE THE BUMP-OUTS WE LOSE THAT PHYSICAL PROTECTION AT THE CROSSWALKS. AND THEN WE ALSO JUST WANT TOSS REFERENCE SOME LESSONS LEARNED ON SUMMIT AVENUE WHERE WE DID STRIPING ONLY AND WE DIDN'T EXPERIENCE THE TRAFFIC CALMING EFFECT THAT WE DESIRED AND WE CONTINUED TO BE TWEAK THAT PROJECT. THE NEXT FEED BACK THAT WE RECEIVED IF REMOVAL IS NOT AN OPTION CONVERT ALL CURB BUMP-OUTS TO MOUNTABLE CURBS AND WE AGREE WITH THAT.
THE OTHER PART OF THAT CONVERSATION WAS THAT'S INSTEAD OF LANDSCAPING SO WE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH RESIDENTS ABOUT THE OPTIONS OF MOUNTABLE CURBS VS. HAND ESCAPING.
WE DON'T WANT TO DO LANDSCAPE WITH MOUNTABLE CURBS FOR ONE IN THE LANDSCAPING IS NOT WELL PROTECTED WITH THE MOUNTABLE CURB BUT AGAIN THIS REALLY RELATES BACK TO THE FEED BACK WE RECEIVED F. YOU REMEMBER THE LAST MEET BEING DID PROPOSE LANDSCAPING TO MAKE THE BUMP-OUTS MORE VISIBLE BUT THIS IS RELATED TO FEED BACK THAT WE RECEIVED FROM RESIDENTS SINCE THAT MEETING. AND THEN, THE OTHER ONE IS VERY SFOEFK THE LADY OF THE LAKE INTERSECTION IF YOU REMEMBER, IN THE MEETING WE RECEIVED A LOT OF FEED BACK THAT THAT INTERSECTION IS DIFFICULT TO TRAVERSE. WE WERE PROPOSING TO SOLVE THAT WISH A MOUNTABLE CURB WHICH ADDRESSES TIRE STRIKES BUT ALSO CHANGING FLATTENING THE RADIUS OF THAT BUMP-OUT AT THAT INTERSECTION JUST TO MAKE IT A LITTLE EASIER TO MAKE THE RIGHT TURN FROM LADY OF THE LAKE ON TO KING ARTHUR.
>> I WANTED TO ADD ONE THING WITH THE LANDSCAPING IT'S TRUE THE RESIDENTS WE WERE WORKING WITH DID COMMENTS SPECIFICALLY THEY WOULD PREFER NOT TO HAVE LANDSCAPING ACTUALLY AFTER PROVIDING THAT THE LAST MEETING I HAD PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE COME UP TO ME GOING WE DON'T WANT LANDSCAPING.
I WILL SAY FROM A PERSPECTIVE OUR IDEA WAS TO BEAUTIFY THE CORRIDOR. THERE IS A CONCERN BECAUSE WHEN YOU ARE BUILDING OVER TOP OF A PREVIOUS ROAD WHEN YOU BUILD ROAD YOU PUT LIME UNDERNEATH THE PAVEMENT SO WE WOULD HAVE TO DO EXTRA STEPS ON EXCAVATION WE BELIEVE WE CAN DO IT BUT IT DOES MAKE IT HARDER TO KEEP THINGS IN A THEY WILL THEY CONDITION SO WHEN WE HEARD THAT TREASURE DENTS WERE INTERESTED WE WERE UP FOR THE CHALLENGE OF DOING IT BUT WHEN THEY WERE LESS INTERESTED IN LANDSCAPING AND WANTING TO HAVE THIS ROLL BACK CURB THAT SEEMED LIKE A WIN-WIN SITUATION.
>> AARON, SO, JUST TO CLARIFY WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A RADIUS CHANGE, ON THE LADY OF THE LAKE BUMP-OUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MAKING IT A BIGGER RADIUS WHICH WILL MAKE THE BUMP-OUT
ITSELF SMALLER, RIGHT? >> IT WILL MAKE THE HARD EDGE OF THE BUMP-OUT SOFTER. SO, EFFECTIVELY, YES.
IT WILL MAKE -- IT WILL MAKE THAT A LARGER RADIUS SO THAT
IT'S EASIER TO TURN. >> THANK YOU.
>> SO THIS ONE IS ALSO ABOUT BUMP-OUTS BUT IT'S SFOEFK THE HOLLOW HILL LANE INTERSECTION AND THE REASON THAT THAT, THERE'S SPECIFICITY TO THAT INTERSECTION IS IT IS ONE OF TWO ENTRANCES INTO A GATED COMMUNITY, THIS SPECIFIC
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ENTRANCE IS WHERE THE GUARD SHACK RESIDES.SO, VISITORS INTO THIS ENTRANCE HAVE TO VISIT WITH THE GUARD BEFORE BEING ADMITTED IN. THAT TENDS TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON FREE FLOWING TRAFFIC BECAUSE IF THERE'S MULTIPLE CARS THAT WANT TO TURN INTO THAT LOCATION AT THE SAME TIME, THEN IT TENDS TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO BACK TRAFFIC UP INTO KING ARTHUR.
THE OTHER ISSUE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP THAT'S THE QUEUEING ISSUE, THE OCEAN ISSUE BROUGHT UP IS TYPICAL OF ALL THE BUMP-OUTS WHICH WAS TIRE STRIKES. THE SPECIFIC CONCERNS THAT WERE RELAYED TO US WITH RESPECT TO TIRE STRIKES WERE RELATED TO A LEFT TURN OUT OF THE SHOPS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE MY MOUSE SO THE LEFT TURN OUT OF THE SHOPS HERE NOT SEEING THIS BIKE LANE BUMP-OUT AS WELL AND ALSO TURNING OUT OF HOLLOW HILL AND HITTING THIS BUMP-OUT. SO, WHAT WE DID IS WE WANTED TO GET SOME DATA. AND MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE EXPLORING THE CONCERN AND OPERATING OFF DATA THAT WE HAD GATHERED SO WE WENT A STAFF MEMBER OUT TO THIS INTERSECTION TO OBSERVE DOCUMENT WHAT IS HAPPENING FOR TWO FULL DAYS.
THE FIRST DAY ON AUGUST 31ST THEY WERE OUT THERE FROM 7:30 A.M. TO 5:30 AND SEPTEMBER NINTH 5:30 TO 6:30 P.M.
WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR THE INTERRUPTIONS TO FREE FLOWING TRAFFIC AND HOW BIG A DEAL IS THIS AND ALSO LOOKING IF IT WHEN IT HAPPENS, HOW DOES IT HAPPEN, SO THAT WE HAVE THE DATA TO BEST SOLVE THE ISSUE. THE SLIDES YOU SEE HERE IS EASTBOUND, SO I HAVE THE ARROW DRAWN.
THIS WOULD BE CAUSED BY A CAR THAT'S TURNING LEFT INTO HELLO HILL LANE. THAT'S SIGNIFICANT, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T BRING THE BUMP-OUTS INTO PLAY AT ALL.
THIS IS A CONDITION THAT HAS ALWAYS EXISTED AT THIS INTERSECTION IF YOU HAVE A LEFT TURN VEHICLE INTO HOLLOW HILL LANE IT'S GOING TO BACK UP ON KING ARTHUR.
THE DATA WE GATHERED IN THIS INSTANCE WE HAD NINE OH KURNZ OVER TWO DAISHLGS EIGHT OF WHICH WERE ON AUGUST 31ST AND TECH DOLE FEED BACK FROM OUR STAFF SEEMED A LOT OF MOWING EQUIPMENT MUST BE A BIG MOWING DAY FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD BUT THAT'S WHY THERE WAS A LOT OF TRAFFIC GOING IN THAT DAY.
THE MEDIAN CREATION PER INTERRUPTION OF TRAFFIC WAG 41 SECOND, THE LONGEST 2:24 AND IT INVOLVED A LITTLE LESS THAN TWO CARS PURCHASE OCCURRENCE SO NOT A LOT OF CARS DID HAVE ONE LENGTHY OCCURRENCE BUT I WANT TO STRESS THIS IS A CONDITION THAT EXISTED BEFORE THE IMPROVEMENTSES ON KING ARTHUR.
THEN THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE RIGHT TURN SO THIS IS THE WESTBOUND TRAFFIC SO IT INCLUDES THE TRITE TURN.
THIS ONE DOES INCLUDE THE BUMP-OUT AND SO, THE BUMP-OUT COMES INTO PLAY ON THIS ONE. SAME TIME FRAME, TWO DAYS, WE HAD THREE TOTAL OCCURRENCES ALL ON AUGUST 31ST, MEDIAN DURATION WAS 18 SECONDS. THE LONGEST ONE WAS 46 SECONDS AND THIS ONE WAS OVER TWO CARS PERO OCCURENCE THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THE INTERRUPTION OF FREE FLOWING TRAFFIC.
AGAIN, THE CONCLUSION FROM LOOKING AT THIS DATA IS IT'S NOT A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO THE FREE FLOWING TRAFFIC OR THE BUMP-OUTS ARE NOT. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT YOU KNOW, TWO FULL DAYS OF OBSERVATION A LITTLE OVER ONE MINUTE OF INTERRUPTION OF TRAFFIC TOTAL.
SO, AFTER GATHERING THAT DATA WE TOOK A LOOK AND SAID OKAY WHERE CAN WE MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AND ADDRESS TISSUES.
AGAIN GO BACK TO WHERE WE HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED WE SHOULD CONVERT TALL BUMP-OUTS TO MOUNTABLE CURBS.
THAT ADDRESSES THE TIRE STRIKES IN THE ADDITION TO THAT WE ARE PROPOSING THAT WE ADD LANE GUIDELINE EXTENSIONS WHICH IS REALLY IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT YOU'VE GONE THROUGH INTERSECTION WES DUAL LEFT TURNS. WE CALL THEM PUPPY TRACKS WHERE IT KEEPS YOU IN YOUR LANE AS YOU MAKE DUAL LEFT TURNS THIS IS THE SAME CONCEPT IT'S A DASH EVIDENCE TWILIGHT LINE THAT WILL GO ON THE INSIDE OF THE EXISTING WHITE LINE ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE DRIVING LANE. AND THAT WILL HELP GUIDE THE TRAFFIC PAST THE BUMP-OUTS. AND THEN WE ALSO ADD HATCHING THERE AT THE INTERSECTION JUST TO GUIDE THE TRAFFIC KEEP THEM WHERE THEY SHOULD BE TO GET THEM PAST THE BUMP-OUTS.
WHICH IS BRINGS US KIND OF TO THE GENERAL KEY ISSUE OF
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STRIPING, THIS IS A SUGGESTION RELATED TO BUMP-OUTS BUT WE ARE GOING TO, WE ARE PROPOSING TO ADDRESS WITNESS STRIPING.SO THE SUGGESTION WAS TO MOVE THE BUMP-OUTS BACK SIX INCHES, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, THAT OUTER DRIVING LANE THAT WHITE LANE ACTUALLY IS PERFECTLY, IS ACTUALLY IN LINE WITH THE FACE OF CURB SO THE INNERMOST PART OF THAT WHITE LINE IS IN LINE WITH THE FACE OF THE CURB. I WANT TO POINT OUT, THOSE BUMP-OUTS DO NOT PROTRUDE INTO THE DRIVING LANE.
HOWEVER, I WILL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT VISUALLY IT CAN LOOK LIKE THEY DO. WHAT EXIT LIKE LIKE THEY DO THERE'S A BLACK JOINT IN THE CONCRETE THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LANE DEMARKATIION IT'S THE CONSTRUCTION JOIN OF THE CONCRETE BUT COINCIDENTALLY THOSE VERY OFTEN LINE UP WITH LANES AND SO PEOPLE ASSOCIATE THOSE WITH LANE WIDTHS AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUMP-OUTS AND YOU ASSOCIATE LANE WIDTH WITH BLACK LINE IT DEFINITELY LOOKS LIKE THE BUMP-OUT PROCEED TRUTH INTO THE DRIVING LANE. IT DOES NOT BUT WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THAT VISUAL IS THERE, SO TO ADDRESS THAT, WE ARE PROPOSING TO CONVERT AGAIN THE BUMP-OUTS TO MOUNTABLE CURBS BUT THOSE LANE GUIDELINE EXTENTIONS WILL DO THAT.
THIS WILL PROVIDE A SIX INCH GAP BETWEEN THE LANE AND THE FACE OF OF THE CURB, WHICH WILL NOW BE A MOUNTABLE CURB.
ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT WHEN YOU BUILD THOSE MOUNTABLE CURBS THEY'RE NOT GOING TO COME OUT FURTHER.
THE SLOPE OF THAT CURB IS NOT GOING TO BE OUT IN THE LANE.
IT'S GOING TO BE THE START OF THE SLOPE OF THE CURB FURTHEST OUT WILL BE WHERE IT IS TODAY. IF ANYTHING IT WILL BE MOVED BACK A LITTLE BIT. JUST THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS. ALSO, WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE LANE WIDTH AFTER WE ADD THAT, THE DASHED WHITE LANE THE LANE GUIDELINE WILL BE AT LEAST 11 FEET WIDE WHICH IS VERY STANDARD FOR A ROADWAY OF THIS SPEED. AND THEN, THE NEXT SUGGESTION IS INCREASED VISIBILITY OF BUMP-OUT SOCIAL SECURITY NEEDED WITH MORE LEAD STRIPING. IT'S REALLY, I ADDED THIS SLIDE JUST TO GIVE YOU HAD MORE VISUALS ON WHAT THIS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. IT'S MORE PART OF THE DESIGN SO THE UPPER LEFT IS JUST AN ALLEY, WE ARE ADDING CROSS HATCHING AND GUIDELINES TO HELP GUIDE YOU HAD INTO THE LANE WHERE YOU'RE EXPOSED TO-BE TO BE AND UPPER RIGHT IS LAZY OF THE LAKE INTERSECTION WE ARE SOFTENING THE RADIUS OF THE BUMP-OUT AND ADDING HATCH TO GO GUIDE THE TRAFFIC WHERE THEY SHOULD BE.
THE BOTTOM LEFT IS PART OF THE DESIGN, CAN YOU SEE THOSE GUIDELINES GOING PAST BOTH BUMP-OUTS TO KEEP YOU GOING THROUGH THERE SAFELY AND THE ONE ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT IS AN AI PICTURE TRYING TO GIVE YOU, WE STRUGGLED TO SHOW YOU OR FELT LIKE WE WERE STRUGGLING TO SHOW YOU ADEQUATELY WHAT EXACTLY THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, BUT THAT AI PICTURE WE'RE NOT GOING TO PAINT BLUE LINES I PROMISE. BUT WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU A BETTER VISUAL WHERE THAT LINE IS GOING TO BE AND HOW IT'S GOING
TO WORK. >> I THINK BEFORE WE GO ON, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT, WE DON'T HAVE A FULL SET OF DRAWINGS AND WE MAYFIELD JUST GOTTEN IT BUT WE HAVE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERS JUST TO FINE TUNE THESE CHANGES THESE ARE MADE EXHIBITS FOR THIS SO I KNOW THAT THE COMMUNITY HASN'T SEEN THESE SPECIFICALLY.
FOR US TODAY, IF WE CAN GET DIRECTION AND YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION WITH REGARD TO THE BUMP-OUTS THE BARRIERS ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS YOU HAD KNOW WE WILL PUT POST THESE AS SOON AS WE GET THEM ON LINE RECEIVE FEED BACK FROM THEM AND THERE'S A MULTIPLE PHASE APPROACH AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT IN A LATER SLIDE WHERE WE HAVE SOME RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT WE HAD CAN DO IN THIS CHANGE ORDER AMOUNT-WISE SO WE CAN'T GET THE ENTIRETY OF THIS PROJECT UNDER STATE LAW THUNDER FIRST CONTRACT SO WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY IF THE STRIPING IS A LITTLE BIT OFF THE YOU HAVE CONCERNS COMING OUT OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD THIS ALLEY OR THIS ALLEY ACCESS WOID LIKE TO SEE THIS AND WE HAD CAN TALK THROUGH THAT AND HAVE THAT BE A
COMMUNICATION BACK AND FORTH. >> AARON CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION ON THIS? SO, THAT LANE LET'S SUES THE AI PICTURE BECAUSE IT HAS PRETTY COLORS.
THAT YELLOW LINE TO THE CURB SEJ 11 FEET?
>> TO THE BUMP-OUT. >> TO THE EXISTING BUMP-OUT IS
12 FEET. >> SO WHEN WE STAYED SLIGHTLY NARROWER LANE WIDTH WITH THAT PAINT WHAT IS THAT NUMBER?
>> SO IT WILL BE PROBABLY 11 FEET FOUR INCHES.
>> SO THAT LANE WILL BE 11 EVEN WITH BEING SLIGHTLY NARROW IT WILL STILL BE FOUR INCHES OR A THIRD OF A FOOT WIDER THAN STATE
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>> THEN THE LAST KEY ISSUE IS THE WEST END SO AGAIN THIS IS MORGAN LA PAY TO OLD DENTON ROAD.
THE SUGGESTION WE HAD WAS THE BIKE LANES WERE A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING. SO LET ME EXPLAIN WHY THAT IS.
IN THE CORRIDOR YOU'LL SEE IN THE TOP RIGHT PICTURE THAT IS EXISTING CONDITIONS AT MORGAN LA PAY AND WE HAVE A TWO-WAY BIKE LANE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF KING ARTHUR FROM LADY OF THE LAKE TO MORGAN LA PAY. THE BIKE RIDEERED IF THEY'RE HEAD WESTBOUND HAS TO CROSS OVER KING ARTHUR TO GET TO THEIR ONE WAY BIKE LANE TO CONTINUE HEADING WEST.
THAT'S A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING AND WE FELT LIKE WE COULD IMPROVE ON THAT. GREAT SUGGESTION BY THE RESIDENTS. SO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING, WELL, LET ME BACK UP. THE OTHER SUGGESTION IS THE DESIRE WAS TO RESTORE THE DUAL LEFT TURN LANES AT OLD DENTON.
IF YOU'LL REMEMBER IN THE LAST MEETING WE TALKED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY AT THAT INTERSECTION THAT THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC DOESN'T WARRANT DUAL LEFT BUT WE LOOKED AT IT AND SAID WELL IF WE ARE MAKING THE BIKE LANE TWO-WAY ALL THE WAY WHY NOT RESTORE THE DUAL LEFT TURN LANES? SO, THIS DESIGN CONTINUES THE TWO-WAY BIKE LANE THROUGH THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR ON THE SOUTH ASIDE OF KING ARTHUR AND CONVERTS THE BIKE LANE THAT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE TO A SHOULDER TUGS EXISTING STRIPING AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE DESIGN IN THE BOTTOM THERE, RESTORES THESE DUAL LEFT TURN LANES TO THE WAY THEY USED TO BE, THE BOTTOM RIGHT IS THE WAY IT USED TO BE, SO WE ARE REALLY JUST RESTORING THAT INTERSECTION TO THE WAY IT WAS BEFORE THE PROJECT. SO JUST A SUMMARY OF CONCERNS HEARD WE TALKED ABOUT BIKE LANE BARRIERS FEEL UNSAFE AND THEY'RE UNDESIRABLE SO STAFF RECOMMENDS REMOVAL OF THOSE BIKE LANE BARRIERS COUPLED WITH TACTILE FEED BACK IN BUTTONS A NON-REFLECTIVE ROUND BUTTON THAT YOU HAVE A MOTION THAT WOULD CORRECT THAT IN THE CHANGE. THOSE WERE THE TWHOINGS IN THE CHANGE ORDER WE WERE PROPOSING THIS INK AND THE OTHER ISSUE WAS RUMBLE STRIPS ARE TOO LOUD. THAT'S FEED BACK WE HEARD SINCE THE LAST MIGHTING. WE AGREE THAT THEY'RE NOT THE BEST SOLUTION FOR THAT TACTILE FEED BACK A AGAIN PROPOSING THOSE WHITE ROUND BUTTONS AND BUMP-OUTS ARE HARD TO SEE AND GET HIT. THEY DON'T, WE DON'T WANT LANDSCAPING IN THE BUMP-OUTS SO SOLVING THAT ISSUE WITH MOUNTABLE CURBS WITHOUT LANDSCAPING ALSO ADDRESSING THE LADY OF THE LAKE RADIUS, AGAIN A MOUNTABLE CURB AS WELL AND LANE GUIDELINE EXTENTIONS STRIPING AND HATCHING TO HELP GUIDE CARS, KEEP THEM WHERE THEY SHOULD BE. THE WEST END BIKE LANE CONFUSIONING WE TALKED ABOUT THAT SO AGAIN, WE WILL CONVERT THE NORTH SIDE BAKE LINE TO SHOULDER MAKE THE SOUTH SIDE TWO WEIGHED ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE CORE DISORDER AND RESTORE THE LEFT TURN LANES. AT THE BOTTOM REDUCING SPEEDING THAT IS THE ORIGINAL FEED BACK WE HEARD FROM RESIDENCE THAT'S THE I AM PET TO US THE ENTIRE PROJECT AGAIN WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY TRUE TO THAT AND WE DIDN'T SACRIFICE THAT WHILE ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE COME UP SINCE THE 'EM PRELIMINARY TAKES OF THE PROJECT.
WE DO FEEL LIKE WE HAVE WORKED WITH OUR CONSULTANT ENGINEERS VERY CLOSELY AND WE HAD DO FEEL THAT ALL THE RECOMMENDED SOLUTIONS THIS EVENING PRESERVE THAT ORIGINAL PROJECT GOAL.
SO NOW, THE FUN PART SO THE COST OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS.
SO, AGAIN, THIS REALLY COMES BACK TO THOSE FOUR KEY ISSUES WE HAVEN'T ORGANIZED. DO I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE HAVE A LITTLE OVER $366,000 LEFT IN THE PROJECT BUDGET AVAILABLE TO EXECUTE ANY CHANGES THAT COUNCIL AUTHORIZES.
THE BIKE LANE ISSUE IS THE KEY ISSUE IN REMOVING THE BIKE LANE BARRIERS AND THOSE TACK TIME BUTTONS.
LET ME EXPLAIN WHY THAT IS NOT THE FULL SCOPE OF WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING TONIGHT BUT LET NEED EXPLAIN WHY THAT IS THE SUM OF THE CHANGE ORDER FOR YOUR APPROVAL TONIGHT.
STATE LAW DICTATES THAT WE CANNOT INCREASE AN EXISTING CONTRACT THROUGH CHANGE ORDER, JUST FOR THE CROWD, A CHANGE ORDER IS BASICALLY CHANGING THE CONTRACT AMOUNT, ADDING SCOPE TO A CONTRACT, AND INCREASING THE COST ON THAT CONTRACT SO STATE
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LAW DOES NOT ALLOW A CITY TO INCREASE AN ORIGINAL CONTRACT BY MORE THAN CUMULATIVE UP TO 25 PERCENT AND WE ALREADY HAVE ONE CHANGE ORDER THAT WAS EXECUTED DURING THE COURSE OF THE PROJECT. THE REMAINDER OF THAT 25 PERCENT OF $85,000888 SO THAT'S THE MAXIMUM WE CAN DO IN A CHANGE ORDER AND WE WANTED TO GET THAT ON THE AGENDA SO IF COUNCIL THINKS WE ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK WE CAN GET THAT EXECUTED.THE CONTRACTOR ARE READY TO GO. THEY CAN START WORKING NEXT WEEK AND WE CAN GET THOSE BARRIERS REMOVED AND GET THE TACTILE FIGHT BACK BUTTONS DOWN. THE NEXT ISSUE IS BUMP-OUTS WE ARE ESTIMATING APPROXIMATELY $160,000, I WANT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I HAD DON'T HAVE QUOTES ON THAT THAT IS A STAFF ESTIMATE OF THE COST OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS THAT INCLUDES MOUNTABLE CURBS AND LADY OF THE LAKE RADIUS.
THAT WILL BE EXECUTED WITH A FUTURE PROBABLE OR A FUTURE CONTRACT. WE DO FEEL LIKE WE CAN GET THAT GOING FAIRLY QUICKLY BUT IT WILL BE IN THE COMING MONTHS AND THEN STRIPING, SMALL AMOUNT ABOUT $10,000 THAT INCLUDES THE LANE LINE EXTENSIONS AND CROSS HATCHING.
I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT EVEN IF I HAVE AVAILABLE MONEY IN A CONTRACT TO DO THAT I NEED TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE BUMP-OUTS ARE COMPLETE BECAUSE WHEN WE HAD REPLACE THOSE KWUSHS IN THE BUMP-OUTS WE ARE GOING TO MESS UP ANY STRIPING WE HAVE DONE NEAR THEM. SO FROM AN ORDER OF OPERATIONS WE NEED TO COMPLETE THE BUMP-OUTS BEFORE WE DO THESE LANE LINE EXTENSIONS AND THE HATCHING AROUND THEM.
AND THEN THE WEST END IMPROVEMENTS ARE CONTINUING IN THE BIKE LANE THE TWO-WAY BIKE LANE THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE CORRIDOR CONVERTING THE NORTH SIDE TO SHOULDER AND RED STORING THE DUAL LEFTS WE ESTIMATE THAT ABOUT $10,000 AS WELL IF I HAVE AVAILABLE MONEY IN THE CHANGE ORDER THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I COULD IN THAT $85,000 THAT I COULD IMPLEMENT AND JUST NEED TO WAIT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO IMPLEMENT THOSE CHANGES AND WE HAVE SOME CONTINGENCY BUILT INTO THAT $85,000 IF WE HAVE THE AVAILABLE DOLLARS.
I HAVEN'T LISTED A SUBSEQUENT CONTRACT.
THAT'S THE WORST CASE SCENARIO. AGAIN, THE TOTAL RECOMMENDED TODAY IS $265,000888 WELL WITHIN THE AVAILABLE FUNDS WITHIN THE PROJECT. CURRENTLY.
WITH THAT WE HAD WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU
THANK YOU. THAT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION AND A COUPLE THINGS PGS SO, ONE YOU TALKED ABOUT SPEEDING.
I MEAN, THAT WAS ONE ASPECT. THIS AGGRESSIVE DRIVING PASSING ON THE LEFT ILL LEVEL, TRAFFIC, THAT POINTS TO SPEEDING.
>> ONE OF THE PARTS OF THE PROJECT IT DELINEATES WHERE YOUR LANES ARE EVEN FEED BACK WE RECEIVED AFTER THE PROJECT WAS IMPLEMENTED WHY DID THEY CHANGE FROM FOUR LANES TO TWO LANES IT'S ALWAYS BEEN TWO LANES BUT THE PUBLIC DIDN'T REALIZE THAT.
>> THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE WHAT IS THE LIFE SPAN OF THESE BUTTONS? IS IT A YEAR WORKS YEARS? HOW OFTEN DO YOU HAVE TO REPLACE THESE BUTTONS?
>> IT'S HARD TO GIVE YOU -- THERE'S BUTTONS THAT WERE ON THIS ROADWAY THAT WERE PUT OUT ON SPEED CONTROL THAT WERE PUT OUT PERSON DECKLAR TO THE STREET.
THE REASON DO YOU THAT IS TO ALERT THE PUBLIC.
THEY'RE NOT A SPEED HUMP BUT THAT'S THEIR INTENT.
THERE'S SOME I CONTINUE NODE WHEN THEY WERE PUT DOWN AND ARE STILL THERE. THAT'S A TOUGH QUESTION TO ANSWER. I WILL TELL FROM YOU A MAINTENANCE POINT WE HAVE A TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT THAT REPLACES BUTTONS REGULARLY. WE ARE PREPARED TO PROVIDE IS
THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> COUNCILMAN KELLY THE BUTTONS SHOULD BE IN THE BUFFER ZONE SO IT'S NOT A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE
SHOULD BE DRIVING ANYWAY. >> JUST BRING THAT PICTURE BACK UP. THAT'S WHY WE SPECIFIC REPLY PUT THOSE BEHIND THAT WHITE LINE. IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS.
WE DIDN'T WANT PEOPLE DRIVING ON THEM ALL THE TIME BUT MAINTENANCE HAS DEFINITELY PLAYED INTO THAT DEAD ASSIST AS
WELL. >> I HAD A SIMILAR QUESTION REGARDING THE BUTTONS AND MAINTENANCE AND WE CAN GET A TRUCK IN THERE, SWEEPER TRUCK IS GOING TO RUN OVER THE BUTTONS,
IS THAT GOING TO BE ALL RIGHT? >> THE SWEEPER TRUCK WOULD BE
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SWEEPING IN THE GUTTER LINE. BUTTONS ARE COMMON IN STREETS AND IT'S SOMETHING WE DEAL WON REGULAR BASIS ANYWAY WHEN WE SWEEP STREETS. IT'S PART OF NORMAL OPERATION.>> ANY QUESTIONS? >> ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. STAFF APPRECIATE THE TIME.
AND WE WILL GO AHEAD AND HAVE A FEW ON LINE AND WHAT TO GET THROUGH FIRST. SO LET ME DO THAT, AND THEN WE WILL OPEN THE FLOOR UP FOR PUBLIC INPUT.
FIRST UP, I HAVE THE CITY COUNCIL RECEIVED 11 EMAILS FROM VARIOUS RESIDENTS DAVID CRESCENT INFORMATION BUT WE GOT FREE I COMMENTS FROM [NAMES] THANK YOU FOR REACHING OUT THROUGH THAT CHANNEL.
WE HAVE THE COMMENT CARDS THAT WE WILL STEP THROUGH AND I'M GOING TO FIRST DEAL WITH THE COMMENT CARDS FOR FOLKS WHO SAID THEY WANTED TO EXPRESS AN OPINION ON ITEM, LET'S SEE THAT'S ITEM TWO. SO, THOSE SINCE ITEM TWO IS JUST I HAVE A BUNCH OF COMMENTS THERE BUT THEY'RE NOT TO SPEAK.
WE CAN SKIP PAST THOSE AND GET BACK TO THEM ON TWO.
WE WILL STEP RIGHT INTO REQUESTS TO SPEAK ON ITEM A-1.
FIRST UP ON THE LIST IS KELLY RIMER.
THANK YOU. SECOND WOULD BE VIVEK GUPTA.
NAME FOR THE RECORD. >> SORRY.
>> I. >> NAME AND CITY FOR THE REPORTED. VIVEK GULP TARKS LEWISVILLE,
TEXAS. >> THANK YOU WHENEVER YOU'RE
READY. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILWOMAN MEN AND STAFF WE APPRECIATE ANOTHER MEETING AND OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 16 YEARS WHERE I RAISED MY THREE CHILDREN WITH MY WIFE AND ACTUALLY MOST OF YOU GUYS HAVE MET THEM, AND JUST A QUICK FUNNY STORY A COUPLE MONTHS AGO I CAME HOME TO MY TWO OLDER CHILDREN ARGUING AS TEENAGERS USUALLY DO MY OLDER DAUGHTER JUST STARTED DRIVING AND SAID DOES SEED WHAT THEY DID ON KING ARTHUR? THEY HAVE GIANT BARRIERS AND BLOCKS EVERYWHERE.
IT LIKES CRAZY. MY SON RESPONDED THOSE ARE TEMPTED PERRY WHILE THEY'RE DOING MAJOR CONSTRUCTION IMPROVEMENTS ON HIGHWAYS AND MY DAUGHTER RESPONDED NO, I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO LEAVE IT THAT. MY SON HAVE ENGINEERS AND THERE'S NO WAY NED WOULD DO SOMETHING CRAZY LIKE THAT.
I WANTED TO FOCUS SPECIFICALLY ON THE BUMP-OUTS.
YOU KNOW, IT IS PRETTY ROUGH. I KNOW THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT VISUALLY, IT ONLY MALTSERS BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IT'S THE BLACK LINE AND VISUALLY IS WHAT MATTERS.
THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS TO HAVE 12 FOOT LANES WHICH IS YOU KNOW, IT IS LUXURIOUS. IT IS NICE.
IT IS STILL COMFORTABLE BUT WHEN YOU MEASURE INSIDE OF THE OF THE PAINT TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PAINT YOU'RE DOWN TO 11.1 FEET ALREADY. IF YOU'RE ADDING PLAINS THAT GOING AROUND THESE BUMP-OUTS AND PAINT WITHOUT BRINGING THE BOWNESS IN WE COULD BE DOWN WELL BELOW 11 FEET AND ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S SOME AREA WHERE THEY HAD CAN ADJUST OR HAVE SOME LEEWAY THERE, THAT CREATES A LOT OF ISSUES.
IT NARROWS THE LANE A LOT FURTHER AND YES IT'S A HIGH END NEIGHBORHOOD. EVERYBODY IS COMFORTABLE WITH DRIVING ALL THE WAY THROUGH IT BUT IF YOU START STEERING PEOPLE AROUND THERE THEY'RE GOING TO TURN THE WHEEL.
THEY'RE GOING TO STEER IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS AND WEIRD JUST REALLY WORRIED THAT IT WILL STILL COST PEOPLE, YOU KNOW IF THE ARGUMENT IS THOSE DRIVERS ARE TERRIBLE AND DISTRACTED IT MAKES THEM EASY FOR THEM TO CROSS OVER A LITTLE BIT AND THAT RISKSES COLLISIONS THAT CAN BE VERY SEVERE AND EVEN IF I'M PAYING ATTENTION I'VE NOTIFIED A LOT OF PEOPLE KIND OF DRIFT ALL AROUND THERE AND THAT WILL CAUSE A MAJOR ISSUE IF THE LANES ARE SONAR OH I DON'T THINK WE SUDS DISMISS THE BUMP-OUTS BEING BROUGHT IN SIX INCHES BECAUSE THAT CAN ADD SO MUCH MORE SAFETY
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AND COMFORT IT STILL PRESENT CONVENIENCE EVERYBODY FROM PASSIONING ON THE OUTSIDE. IT STILL CALMS IS IS TRAFFIC ESPECIALLY WITH THE MOUNTABLE SMOOTH CURBS.I REALLY THINK THE BOUNTIES HAVE TO BE BROUGHT IN SIGNIFICANTLY AS WELL. I DON'T THINK THAT PART SHOULD BE DISMISSED BUT I'M VERY THANKFUL AND ENCOURAGED BY TOLD OTHER THINGS I JUST THINK THAT HAS TO BE PART OF WHAT WAS
DISCUSSIONED ON THE BUMP-OUTS. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR INPUT, APPRECIATE IT. RICHARD RUTH.
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JAMES DOUGLAS LEWISVILLE TEXAS KING ARTHUR ON THE EAST SIDE THAT HASN'T BEEN TOUCHED SO FAR. I'M ALSO A CYCLIST SO I'LL SPEND MOST MY TIME TALKING ABOUT THE CYCLE THINGS.
FIRST LIKE TO SAY I APPRECIATE THE GOALS AND I APPRECIATE WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACHIEVE HERE AND I ALSO AGREE THAT DOING THIS IN STAGES WHERE WE CAN SEE HOW THINGS GOAD IN ADDRESSING THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS MORE QUICKLY I THINK IS A GOOD THING TO DO. REMOVING THOSE BARRIERS FOR THE BIKE SLAIN IMPORTANT. IT'S DANGEROUS IN MULTIPLE RESPECTS SO I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT'S BEING DONE.
REGARDING THE BUTTONS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE LOW PROFILE AND NOT SLICK, BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WALK. THEY RUN.
THERE IS DEBRIS AND SOMETIMES THE BIKE LANES THAT YOU HAVE TO GET OUT OF THE BIKE LANES TO GET AROUND THOSE THINGS SO WITH SLIP TIRES ON BIKES THEY CAN SLIDE OUT AND BE DANGEROUS SO MAKE SURE THAT WOULD NOT BE AN ADDITIONAL HAZARD FOR CYCLIST.
THE BI-DIRECTIONAL LANES FOR THE CYCLING, I REFUSE TO USE THEM GOING IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF TRAFFIC.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU ALWAYS LEARN FOR CYCLING YOU DON'T GO FACING THE CARS THE DIFFERENTIAL SPEED WITH THE CARS GOING OUT THE DIRECTION IS 40 MILES AN HOUR AND OUR CYCLISTS IT'S ABOUT 30 MILES AN HOUR SO I ALWAYS RIDE THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE ROAD WHETHER BI-DIRECTIONAL OR NOT SO WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AND SEE HOW IT GOES AND NOT HAVE HAD TO CHANGE THAT RIGHT AWAY BUT MY CONCERN IS ABOUT THE FAR WEST INDEPENDENT ENDED WHERE IT'S CHANGING IT TO BI-DIRECTIONAL LANES.
THAT'S ACTUALLY THE MOST COMFORTABLE PLACE TO RIDE FOR ME BECAUSE I HAVE A LANE THAT IS DEDICATED IN ONE DIRECTION FOR CYCLING. AND AGAIN, THE KEY THING IS FOR SAFETY IT'S NOT JUST THE CARS GOING INTO THE BIKE LANES AND HITTING SOMEBODY, BUT IT'S ALSO FOR THOSE WHO ARE RIDING THE BIKE LANES AND MAKING SURE THERE ARE NOT MORE RISKS THAN NEED TO BE BECAUSE OF DIFFERENTIAL RISKS OFF SLICK BUMPS THAT HAD YOU MIGHT FALL AND REGARDING THE TWO LANE UNDERSTANDING THAT'S A FANTASTIC OUTCOME. THAT'S BEEN A MAJOR PROBLEM WHERE PEOPLE THINK THERE'S FOUR LANES AND BEING ABLE TO LIMIT THAT HAS BEEN VERY BENEFICIAL. SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
RAHAL RODRĆGUEZ. I LIVE IN LEWISVILLE.
WHENEVER I LOOK AT THE DATA THAT YOU GUYS PULLED FROM YOUR TRAFFIC, STUDIES, IT ALL COMES BACK TO YOU MADE A FUNDAMENTAL MISTAKE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE DATA.
KING ARTHUR WAS NOT AN UNSAFE ROAD.
IT WAS A ROAD THAT HAD A SPEEDING PROBLEM, NOT A ROAD THAT HAD A SPEED PROBLEM. THE PROBLEM WAS, PEOPLE WERE UNHAPPY THAT PEOPLE WERE SPEEDING.
BECAUSE THE SPEED LIMITS WAS TOO LOW.
AS YOUR DATA HAS SHOWN PEOPLE TRAVELED THAT ROAD SAFELY FOR DECADES AT 30, 35 MILES-AN-HOUR BUT THE SPEED LIMIT WAS TOO LOW FOR WHAT WAS THERE. SO, YOU'RE JUST PUTTING LIPSTICK ON A BIG BY TRYING TO AVOID YOUR FUNDAMENTAL MISTAKE OF WHAT THE DATA THAT YOU PULLED SHOW WAS GOING ON WITH THE ROAD AND THAT IS YOU HAVE A SPEED LIMIT PROBLEM, NOT A SAFETY ISSUE WITH THE ROAD. SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I'M GLAD TO SEE SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT YOU GUYS ARE PROPOSING, MEETING THE TURN LANE ON THE WEST END BACK WOULD BE
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REALLY NICE, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU CAN'T FALL FOR THE COST FALLACY OF HEY WE HAVE ALREADY DONE THIS WE HAVE ALREADY PUT THESE BUMP-OUTS IN PLACE AND YOU HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT FROM A CLEAN SLATE AND I THINK EVERYBODY HERE GREBES, YOU WOULDN'T DO WHAT YOU DID AGAIN.KNOWING WHAT YOU KNOW NOW, BASED ON COMMUNITY FEED BACK, WHICH YOUR DATA HAS SHOWN, ALL OF THAT, SO WHAT YOU DO IS YOU START FROM A CLEAN SLATE AND SAY, WELL WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO? THE PARKING LANE? THE BIKE LANE? THOSE ARE GREAT. THE BUMP-OUTS HAVE BEEN A TERRIBLE IDEA. AND THE BUMP-OUTS IN GENERAL JUST NEED TO GO. DON'T TRY TO PUT ANY MORE LIPSTICK ON THE BIG. AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE THOSE BUMP-OUTS ARE GOING TO GO AWAY.
JUST DO IT NOW, AND START FRESH AND IMPLEMENT YOUR PLAN, INCREMENTALLY LIKE YOU SHOULD HAVE AT THE BEGINNING.
START WITH THE STRIPING. ADD THE STRIPING FOR WHERE THE IMAGINARY BUMP-OUTS WOULD BE ONCE THEY'RE REMOVED SO THE DRIVERS GET THAT NARROWING SENSATION AND THEN, PROCEED TO DRIVE DOWN THE ROAD SAFELY LIKE THEY HAVE FOR DECADES.
WHAT'S HAPPENED NOW IS YOU GUYS HAVE HAD A HUNDRED VEHICLE STRIKES, HOSPITALIZATIONS BROKEN COLLAR BONES SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE $200,000 IN PRIVATE PROPERTY DAMAGE CAUSED BY YOUR MISTAKES SO OWN UP TO THE FACT YOU DONE MESSED UP ARON AND FIX IT. ANY QUESTIONS?
>> I WAS GOING TO ASK IF YOU WOULD CLOSE IT OUT RIGHT.
>> ABSOLUTELY. >> THANK YOU SIR.
I'VE BEEN CASTLE HILLS FOR 21 YEARS, TWO DIFFERENT HOMES.
I SUPPORT THE BIKE LANE CHANGES AND I'M NOT TOTALLY CONVINCED IT'S THE FINAL STAGE BUT AS WAS MENTIONED OF THE FUTURE ITERATION, MY CONCERN IS THE BUMP-OUTS AND THE ORDER OF OPERATIONS. THE BUMP-OUTS THAT THE PLAN THAT WAS SHARED, TALKED ABOUT $10,000 TO MARK THE ROADWAY.
AND NOT HAVING IN THE BUDGET RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO TAKE THE $88,000 IF THE LAW OF TEXAS PREVENTS US FROM DOING SOMETHING AND PAY $140,000 IS RELATIVELY LOW AND WITHOUT PUTTING SOME KIND OF MARKING TO GET PEOPLE TO SEE, TO GO AWAY FROM THE BUMP-OUT, I'M CONCERNED WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE NOT ONLY ACCIDENTS AND PHYSICAL PROPERTY BUT HUMAN RISK. I'M WORRIED ABOUT CHILDREN WHO AREN'T PAYING ATTENTION, OR GOING DOWN THOSE CURBS RIGHT OR WRONG, YOU KNOW IT'S WRONG BUT THEY DO IT WHO ARE GOING TO HI THEM ON ELECTRIC SCOOTER BIKE OR GOLF CART AND REALLY GET HURT SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE FIRST IS IF THERE'S A WAY TO PUT THE $10,000 TO PUT THE LINES TO GET PEOPLE TO START TO SEE THOSE BUMP-OUTS BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY HARD TO SEE WHEN AT NIGHT JUST TO CHECK MYSELF AND SEE WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE.
THE SECOND THING IS I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH BUT THE MOUNTABLE AND YOU CALL THEM MOUNTABLE CURBS I KNOW THE SPEED LIMIT I BELIEVE IS 25 MILES-AN-HOUR BUT IF SOMEBODY HITS THE AT 30 SAY I DON'T KNOW WHAT DAMAGE THAT DOES, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY CAN TIP OR FLIP.
THE SAME THING WITH MOVING THEM INWARD.
I DON'T NODE IF ENOUGH RESEARCH HAS BEEN DONE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT JUST TRADING A RISK FOR A DIFFERENT RISK.
SO, IF THERE HASN'T BEEN RESEARCH ON THAT I WAS USING AI BUT THERE'S PROBABLY OTHER RESEARCH AVAILABLE.
I RECOMMEND THAT THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THAT'S ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENT I HAVE FOR FOR ITEM A-1.
SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM A -- ANYBODY ELSE? TWO. GIVE ME THREE.
I DON'T WANT AND AMBULANCE. SO I APPRECIATE IT.
IF I COULD GET YOUR NAME. >> WEST ROCK, LEWISVILLE.
JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS. IF YOU GUYS WILL GIVE IT TO ME
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SO I PACE MYSELF SO JUST TO RESPOND TO WHAT WAS SHARED TONIGHT, GOOD SEEING YOU ALL, SECOND VISIT WITH YOU TODAY, SO HAPPY TO SEE ALL. COUPLE OF THINGS JUST RATTLE OFF MIGHT NOT BE IN ORDER BUT MY NOTES.ONE THING REPETITIVE, RAUL DATA COMMUTED, I SENT COUNCILMAN KELLY PICTURES I'VE BEEN THERE AT THE TRAFFIC STOP HOLLOW HILL, AT LEAST FOUR MINUTE BACKUP, SO EIGHT CAR BACKUP WE GOT TO STOP MAKING DECISIONS OOJ ON DATA AND REAL LIFE.
LIKE A COUPLE OF SORRY YOUR NAME I FORGOT BUT WE LIVE IN REALITY, AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT WHEN A LOT OF THE DECISIONS BEING MADE ARE ONLY BASED OFF ENGINEERS AND NOT REAL LIFE.
SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD INPUT THAT THE CITIZENS HAVE HAD MADE TODAY AND I APPRECIATE THE VERY FEW THAT HAVE SHOWN UP, REALLY DISAPPOINTED, I HOPE YOU GUYS ARE LISTENING ON LINE, DISAPPOINTED TO BE IN THIS ROOM NOW I CAN SEE WHY ERIC STANLEY LAUGHS AT A LOT OF US BECAUSE THE LAST TIME THIS WAS FULL ANY OTHER TIME IT'S FULL AND THESE PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO RESPECT US IF WE DON'T SHOW UP SO KIND OF LIKE A REBUKE TO EVERYBODY BUT JUST THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ANYBODY ON LINE SHOW UP PLEASE BECAUSE THIS ROOM IS NOT EVEN FULL.
NO OVERFLOW. THE BUMP-OUTS SUCK, WE NEED TO TAKE THEM OUT. BIKE LANE JUST A CLARIFICATION THE WHITE CURBS HOPEFULLY THOSE ARE WHAT ARE BEING TAKEN OUT.
AGAIN, VISUALLY, IS NOT LIKE HOW WE DRIVE AND WHAT IS 11.3 INCHES AND 11.2 THAT'S NOT REALITY WE'RE NOT TAKING THAT INTO ACCOUNT. PEOPLE YOU MIGHT BE A RESPONSIBLE PERSON BUT THAT PERSON IN THE OTHER LANE MIGHT NOT BE A RESPONSIBLE PERSON AS WELL SO WE NEED THAT TOLERANCE TO BE ABLE TO SWERVE OUT OF THE WAY.
I CAN THINK OF A MOMENT WHEN I HAD TO SWERVE UP UPON THE CURB TO GET OUT OF SOMEONE'S WAY BECAUSE THEY WERE HEADING INTO MY AREA SO DO I THINK THE BUMP-OUTS NEED TO BE TAKEN OUT AND PAM YOU MADE UP A GREAT POINT WITH THE CURBS GOING UP, WHILE IT'S AESTHETICLY PLEASING AND IT DOES MATCH CASTLE HILLS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY LEAD TO ANOTHER ISSUE IF SOMEBODY DRIVES OVER THEM AND GOES INTO ANOTHER AREA SO I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE IN AND OF ITSELF BUT I THINKS THE POINT IS LIKE RAED L MADE WE NEED TO GO BACK TO ZERO. I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY OR TRYING TO THREATEN ANYBODY BUT THERE IS SOMEBODY WHO HAS ENOUGH TIME AND MONEY TO TAKE ALL THE HUNDREDS AND PLUS INCIDENTS COLOR BONES, CAR DAMAGE AND SEE THE CITY. I JUST SIT BACK HERE AND FEEL LIKE WE HAVE CREATED A BIGGER ISSUE THAN SOLVING THE ONE WE HAD SO I WANT TO SEE CASTLE HILL RESTORED TO WHERE IT IS, KEEP IT SAFE. FATHER OF FOUR I RUN THERE BIKE THERE I'M THERE JUST AS MUCH AS ANYBODY HERE SO THOSE ARE MY SENSE. SOME OF Y'ALL DID GOOD THINGS, I WANT TO COMMEND IT BUT SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS IF WE HAD CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE HAD COMMON SENSE.
>> THANK YOU SIR. >> THAT'S WHAT IN THE BAG AND
NOTHING DANGEROUS. >> IS IT ARON T-SHIRT?
>> NO, IT'S TWO HUB CAPS LEFT BEHIND ONE FOR THE CITY
ENGINEER, ONE FOR THE MAYOR. >> I'LL TAKE IT.
>> I ADOPT KNOW WHERE THE THIRD ONE IS.
I HAVEN'T MET HIM PERSONALLY. I'M SCOTT MCGUANE LIVE IN LEWISVILLE. GOT THIS WRONG FROM THE START.
HONESTLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR CITY ENGINEER'S ACTUAL RESEARCH PORTFOLIO UT AUSTIN ARLINGTON RENOWNED PROFESSOR IT MAKES SENSE NOW BECAUSE ACADEMIC WORK PAPER IS LIKE SUBSERVICE FREIGHT TRANSPORTATION STEPS UNDERGROUND LOGISTIC NETWORKS FOR URBAN FREIGHT MOVEMENT AUTOMATED CARGO TRANSPORT IN SUBTERRANEAN CORRIDORS AND DESIGNED AND OPTIMIZATION TO BELOW RATE INFRASTRUCTURE ALL HIGHLY SPECIAL AYESED DEEPLY TECHNICAL FOCUSED ON MOVING CARGO UNDERGROUND NOT A SINGLE STUD ON EVERYDAY USE ABOVE GROUND WITH COMMON TRAFFIC PROCEDURES.
IT'S NO SURPRISE THE FIRST EFFORT FAILED.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT AGAIN.
WISE CHOICE. DON'T PAINT LANES AND THAT DIDN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM BUT GOING SO FAR BEYOND THAT CEMENT STRUCTURES WAS SUCH AN EGREGIOUS POORLY THOUGHT OUT DESIGN BY SOMEBODY THAT IS CLEARLY NOT EXPERT IN THIS SPACE ALL OF US
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SHOULD BE ARE CONCERNED BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT THE LEWISVILLE 2035 PLAN THERE'S A WHOLE HOST OF THINGS IN THERE ABOUT TRAFFIC CALMING PLANNING AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE WASTE THAT THIS CITY IS GOING TO EXPERIENCE, WITH CONTINUED POOR DESIGN, CONTINUED FEED BACK, THAT GETS IGNORED UNTIL INJURIES MOUNT AND YOU CREATE STRUCTURES IN CITIES THAT MAKE THIS AN UNCOMFORTABLE PLACE FOR VISIT AND TRAVEL.THAT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. THAT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY.
WE ARE TAKING IT SERIOUSLYLY. THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE.
RIGHT? WE NEED BETTER PLANNING.
WE NEED BETTER DESIGN. WE NEED BETTER EXPERIENCE.
THAT'S YOUR ACCOUNTABILITY. LASTLY, 45 SECONDS, THE DESIGNS FOR THE BIKING AS MR. DOUGLAS POINTED OUT ARE UNLIKE ANY DESIGN ANYWHERE NECESSARY THE COUNTRY.
THAT'S EFFECTIVE AND KNOWN FOR BEING A CYCLIST CULTURE.
YOU DON'T HAVE ON COMING TRAFFIC THAT TWO BIKES CAN RUN INTO EACH OTHER YOU DON'T HAVE OBJECTS LIKE THE BUTTONS OR CEMENT TURTLES OR WHATEVER WANT TO CALL THEM THERE'S NOTHING CAN YOU DO THEM FROM BEING SLIPPERY WITH 28 MM TIRE 3038, 20 MILES-AN-HOUR, 15 MILES-AN-HOUR, SLICK, WET, DEBRIS, SAND, ANYTHING, THOSE THINGS WILL SLIP ON TIRE OUT UNDERNEATH YOU IN A HEARTBEAT AND NOW YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER PERSON TO REPICK UP OFF THE STREET. REMOVE THEM COMPLETELY GET SOMEBODY KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND SPEND OUR TAX DOLLARS WISELY. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO A-2.
>> I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE GOT FEED BACK.
>> SO, THERE WAS A QUESTION THE STRIPING BEING IMPORTANT IMPORTANT. I AGREE THE STRIPING IS IMPO IMPORTANT, MY CONCERN THE STRIPING AROUND THE CURBS, THE CORNERS.
RIGHT? MY CONCERN IS WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, AARON, WHERE YOU'RE SAYING WHEN WE GO IN TO PUT THE MOUNTABLE CURBS THAT STRIPING IS GOING TO BE DESTROYED SO IF WE SPEND $10,000 RIGHT NOW TO PUT THE STRIPING IN IT'S GOING DESTROYED AND HAVE TO BE REDONE. IS THAT WHAT I HEARD?
>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE, IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE WE COULD DO ON A TEMPORARY BASIS THAT WOULD HELP PEOPLE TO SEE THOSE BUMP-OUTS.
>> WE CAN CERTAINLY PUT CONES ON TOP OF THE BUMP-OUTS THAT WOULD MAKE THEM QUITE A BIT MORE VISIBLE, PUT THEM ON THE EDGE OF
THE CURB. >> I WOULD JUST ASK THAT IF WE CAN'T DO THE STRIPING, I UNDERSTAND WHY WE CAN'T DO IT RIGHT NOW. I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE FIND SOME OTHER WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE SEEING THE BUMP-OUTS. I'M ALSO HEARING THAT THERE'S A POSSIBILITY WE MAY BE ABLE TO GET THE SECOND ROUND AS SOON AS WE HAVE THE MONEY IN THE REMAINING BUDGETS FOR THE PROJECT ALREADY. WE JUST CAN'T HAVE OUR CURRENT CONTRACTOR DO THE WORK, HOW QUICKLY DO WE FEEL THAT WE BITE BE ABLE TO GET THE NEXT PHASE CONTRACT AWARDED?
>> GO AHEAD, AARON. >> I THINK ONE THING THAT WE COULD DO THAT WOULD COST EXTRA MONEY IS DO TEMPORARY STRIPING WHICH IS PAINT. THE REGULAR STRIPING IS THERMAL PLASTIC COSTS WHITE A BIT MORE MONEY BUT WE CAN DO IT AND PAINT AHEAD KNOWING THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IT BUT IT WOULD BE FAIRLY INEXPENSIVE. RELATED TO THE SCHEDULE WE BELIEVE THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THE REST OF THE WORK USING COOPERATIVE CONTRACTS SO WOULD NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE FORMAL BIDDING PROCESS AND SPEED THINGS UP CONTRIBUTELY.
>> SO YOU MEAN THROUGH A CONTRACT THAT WE ALREADY HAVE
FOR PAVEMENT MAINTENANCE? >> IT'S NOT A CURRENT CONTRACT BUT IT USES COOPERATIVE BIDDING THROUGH THE STATE SO WE DON'T HAVE HAD TO GO THROUGH THE LONG BIDDING PROCESS THAT'S ALREADY BEEN PREBID THROUGH THE STATE SO IT WOULD HELP US IMPLEMENT THAT.
>> ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? >> I REALLY DO LIKE THE TEMPORARY PAINT IDEA. I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING.
IT WAS SOMETHING WE COULD DO IN THE INTERIM WHATEVER KRAVP THINGS YOU WOULD COME UP WOULD BE GREAT.
>> PATRICK DON'T GO OUT THERE WITH A CAM.
>> NOT A SECOND TIME. >> I DO WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE
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HERE BEFORE ANYBODY LEAVES THIS IS A LONG DAY FOR FOLKS HERE.I SAW A LOT OF YOU GUYS OUT NOW WE ARE SPENDING A COUPLE HOURS OUT HERE IS THANKS FOR HANGING IN PARTICIPATING IN THE PROCESS.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MAYOR. >> THANK YOU SIR.
>> COMMENTS, QUESTIONS. >> SO, SORRY.
THE MOUNT CURBS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DOING IT WOULD BE THE SAME MOUNTABLE CURBS AS ALL THE MOUNTABLE CURBS THAT ARE OUT THERE, RIGHT, THE EXACT SAME KIND OF CROSS SECTION?
IS THAT CORRECT? >> THE TYPICAL CROSS SECTION AND
MOUNTABLE CURB DETAIL. >> AND YOU'RE ASKING THAT QUESTION BECAUSE THE AI GENERATED MOUNT BLD CAN CURB IS NOT THE SAME PROFILE AS THOSE OUT THERE NOW?
>> RIGHT. ALSO I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT YOU KNOW, THE SAFETY OF A MOUNTABLE CURB, AND WHETHER OR NOT IT PRESENTS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU KNOW, FOR SOMEBODY TO BE LAUNCHED. THAT'S REALLY, THE EXISTING CONDITION THERE, WE ARE DOING THE EXACT SAME MOUNTABLE CURB THAT IS ON EVERY TEAM IN CASTLE HILLS, RIGHT?
>> YES, BUT I THINK I WOULD LIKE THE DESIGN ENGINEER TO COMMENT ON THE SAFETY OF THE MOUNTABLE CURB JUST FOR OUR ED IF I CHANGES RELATE IT TO LAUNCHING, BUT BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO HIM, I DO WANT TO SAITTA YOU'RE DRIVING 60 MILES-AN-HOUR DOWN KING ARTHUR THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT BECOME DANGEROUS.
>> I SEE IT ON VERTICAL CURBS ON VALLEY PARKWAY PEOPLE SHOW UPSIDE WAYS. SO THE REGULAR CURBS WILL LAUNCH
YOU. >> YEAH I'M REALLY JUST ASKING BECAUSE IN MY MIND, I'M TRYING TO DECIPHER WHAT THE, YOU KNOW HOW DOES IT COMPARE TO THE CURRENT CONDITION OUT THERE, NOT THE CURRENT BUMP-OUTS THE WAY THEY ARE, I'M JUST SAYING IF YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN ANY STREET IN CASTLE HILLS, THERE'S A CURB,
THERE IS A MOUNTABLE CURB THERE. >> I SEE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.
YES THERE IS A MOUNTABLE CURB THIS WILL BE THE SAME DETAIL OF MOST MOUNTABLE CURBS SO THE CONDITION WOULD BE THE SAME.
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? >> YES THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING SO WE ARE REALLY TALKING ABOUT IT'S THE SAME CONDITION.
JUST THE MOUNTABLE CURB IS NOW MOVING A LITTLE CLOSER.
>> ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU COUNCIL.
APPRECIATE THAT ITEM 2 CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 2.
[READING]. >> I DO HAVE THE FOLLOWING CARDS, SO I'M JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH THESE QUICKLY.
I'VE GOT PATRICIA JONES, GREG JONES, [INAUDIBLE] BETH ROSE CINDY DOUGLAS, SIM ON [INDISTINCT], RAJ PATEL, KITAN PATEL ALL THE SUPPORT. AND I HAVE KATHERINE MAGEE WHO IS IN SUPPORT OF REMOVING THE BIKE LAWNS AND WANTS THE [INDISTINCT] REDUCED. I HAVE NO FURTHER REQUEST FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS? >> MAYOR, CAN I GET A LITTLE BIT OF CLARITY? I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IF VOTING ON ITEM 2 FOR THE CHANGE ORDER THAT SHOULD GIVE US FOR CLARIFICATION WE WILL BE ABLE TO START MOVING ON THIS THIS WEEK SO WE WILL HAVE THE CONTRACTORS OUT THERE STARTING TO PULL UP BIKE BARRIERS AND PUTTING DOWN TACTILE TREATMENT.
IF THERE IS MOTION SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS WE RECEIVED IS ABOUT THE TYPE, WHAT ARE THEY CALLED BUTTONS THAT WE HAD IN THERE TO MATCH THE BUTTON WE HAD SHOWED IN THE PRESENTATION, THERE'S A MOTION WHERE WE SPECIFICALLY PUT THAT.
>> THAT'S 45. >> SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS ARE AWARE OF THAT IF THAT'S WHAT YOUR DESIRE IS AND STAFF
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WILL TAKE THAT. THIS IS THE FIRST STEP BUT THIS IS SUPPORT OF ALL THE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFF AND THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE ARE MOVING AT THIS POINT.WE WILL POST ON LINE THE STRIPING PLAN ONCE WE GET THAT IN FINAL FORM FOR THE PUBLIC TO LOOK AT AND WE WILL START IF ANYONE HAULS ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THAT WE ARE HAPPY TO ENGAGE WITH THAT BUT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT.
>> COUNCIL HERE IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE YOUR INPUT ON PRESENTATION, WE SAW SEVERAL FORWARD MOVING ITEMS THAT DUE TO BIDDING CONSTRAINTS OR OTHER ISSUES WILL BE IN STEP? PROCESS AFTER THIS DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY OTHER FEED BACK YOU WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THE STAFF?
>> I THINK I THINK WHEN TRUBER MEETS THE ROAD THERE IS THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO GO I'M EXCITED TO SEE THESE CHANGES SO THANK YOU STAFF FOR WORKING ON THIS SO HARD, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING PUT INTO THIS, IT'S FASTER THAN WE USUALLY SEE THOSE CHANGES FOR A TRAFFICKING CALL PROJECT BUT THAT WAS THE RESPONSE TO THE OVERWHELMING COMMITMENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> I JUST HAD A QUESTION, JUST TO CLARIFY, BECAUSE THE CHANGE ORDER DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY TEMPORARY STRIPING BUT SEE IF WE CAN GET TEMPORARY STRIPING WITH
THAT CONTINGENCY NUMBER? >> YES.
KOURNGS -- COUNCIL WE HAVE A MOTION, IF YOU APPROVE THE MOTION ON THE DOCUMENT THAT DOES NOT MODIFY THE BUTTONS OR THE EQUIPMENT SO WE HAVE DIFFERENT LANGUAGE IF USED LIKE TO DO THAT. YOUR OPPORTUNITY.
>> MAY BE HELD FOR THAT MOTION THEN.
MOVE TO APPROVE THE CHANGE ORDER WITH THE SUBSTITUTION OF DMS 4300 TYPE BUTTONS OR EQUIVALENT AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE CHANGE ORDER AS SET FORTH IN THE CAPTION ABOVE.
>> I SECOND. >> MOTION SECOND.
COUNCIL WILL YOU PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES 6 TO NONE.
ALL RIGHT. WELL, I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT FOR YOUR INPUT FOR YOUR CONTINUED INPUT.
DOESN'T ALL HAPPEN HERE IT HAPPENS IN EMAILS COUGHED' SHOPS AND TEXT MESSAGES. I APPRECIATE THAT I KNOW WE HAVE ALL BEEN RECEIVING TONS OF INFORMATION AND FEED BACK FROM THE COMMUNITY. ALL THE WAY AROUND AND IT'S A CHALLENGE. IT'S A CHALLENGE.
WE GOT A ROAD THAT'S BUILT TO BE A FREE WAY IN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND SO, IT CAN BE A REAL DIFFICULT THING TO SQUARE THAT.
WITH THAT, I APPRECIATE ALL THE STAFF'S EFFORT AND WORK.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THAT ROAD IS SAFE AND ADDRESSES THE SAFETY CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO US FOR MANY YEARS NOW, AS WELL AS THE AESTHETIC AND OTHER SAFETY CONCERNS THAT ARE BEING BROUGHT UP BY THE COMMUNITY TODAY.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.